dansbanners wrote on 9^th Mar, 2022 at 11:14pm:


As long as everyone knows that red flags are starting to pop up.

Let's say you're on a hockey team. Do you think your team is more likely to win or lose with a "our team is going down, down, down...?". Exactly! Sometime it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Mar, 2022 at 3:06am:


You're right. Who cares if someone comes along and joins the site, upgrades, spends a ton of money on advertising right before it crashes. Or worse yet, the admin absconds with money owed to people. It's not like that has ever happened in our industry. Let's all just be a bunch of weasels and think for ourselves. As long as we are making bank and getting paid.

No wonder no one invests in this industry or trusts anyone 

Besides the admin has been paying the commissions all along, also on a monthly basis and so forth.

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Mar, 2022 at 2:04pm:


You sound like you are rationalizing. You say the admin hasn't stopped paying and this is true. That is always the way until things just end. He has already pulled back on contest payouts which is a sign things are not going forward. I believe he is a person of integrity but we have dealt with those types before. Integrity usually leaves the minute the cash flow stops.

I'm not mad about what I've spent on advertising. I earned the money online and I spent it online. It wasn't money I needed and I was more than prepared to lose anything I spent. That is the attitude we need to take in this industry with a 90%+ failure rate. If we haven't learned that yet, then there is little hope for us.

This is just one more example of why I won't spend offline money on this industry and am coming to the point where I won't spend online money. Thanks to the bitcoin boom, I have made a profit overall but instead of becoming a viable online business, it remains a hobby. You may say I'm negative but most people would have quit a long time ago. I'm a team player in that I will quit when the buzzer goes at the end of the game even if we are down twelve goals. Many would say that makes me a fool.

That doesn't mean I won't yell at the coach or teammates when they refuse to do things that will help us win "because they know better than a lowly affiliate". And if someone is doing something that will get them hurt or discouraged, I'm going to warn them. If that makes me negative, then so be it. I've put a lot more in that I took out for these sites. I'm not responsible for their failure. And if a site is doing something that is taking us down the fail path, then I want it to fail hard and fast. That way it will be out of the way sooner and we can move on to the next potential contestant

dansbanners wrote on 11^th Mar, 2022 at 5:45am:


If the stock is of any value I wouldn't have to convince them to buy it unless it is a true loser. A sound company sells itself. Do you see anyone needing to hype up R4A or PTCS?

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Mar, 2022 at 1:15am:

I've got news for you. I ain't going to be joining any more new programs at this point. I'm just going to ride with this group of programs I'm currently a member of for as long as I can. So, I'd appreciate that you cool it a bit on your negativity on this program. You wouldn't want to lose me as a team member.

Otherwise, what do you want from me? To agree with you on ending this on an "alright, we're going to lose" note?

dansbanners wrote on 11^th Mar, 2022 at 2:19pm:


One team member is not going to change things for me. On the internet, you need thousands of team members if you ever plan on making decent money so it doesn't really matter either way. Because I live in Canada, I'd probably need to make ten times what I earn on the net to make any significant difference in my life financially. That is why it is just a hobby to me. $12 per month will barely buy lunch these days and is a waste of time. Fortunately, I have time in small parts of my life to waste so I get paid to fill those spaces.

I don't want anything from you. I made the comment that this site is displaying the typical red flag signs that we look for. You don't have to agree. You can rebut the points as you see fit. My opinion is not going to sink this program but I won't be surprised if I'm right

If I find something that works I won't need you to join because the thing will fly on its own. We share ideas on here for each other's profitable benefit, not because we need each other to make money.