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Message started by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am

Title: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am
This is the first time I've seen this. The comp plan seems interesting. It will depend on the cost of the upgrade

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 5:22am
The upgrade price isn't too bad


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Feb, 2019 at 12:06am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Feb, 2019 at 4:11am:
This is the first time I've seen this. The comp plan seems interesting. It will depend on the cost of the upgrade

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

According to Alexa it seems that it was popular during the third quarter of 2018 faced a drop towards its end, but has started climbing again in traffic recently..

Do you think it would be worth testing?

I could spare 7 bucks for a month, if that gets me a few referrals on R4A or PV.. :)

Do they accept Bitcoin?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Feb, 2019 at 6:27am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 12:06am:
According to Alexa it seems that it was popular during the third quarter of 2018 faced a drop towards its end, but has started climbing again in traffic recently..

Do you think it would be worth testing?

I could spare 7 bucks for a month, if that gets me a few referrals on R4A or PV.. :)

Do they accept Bitcoin?


Dan knows a guy in it so I figured we could both ask him about it and join under him. Since he is a net marketer, that also may draw him into our team.

Did you want to talk to him? I was going to and to tell him Dan sent me but if you want to jump in first I can go with that. It is probably your turn to be in the lead.

http://oldbuddy.info/grow/

My only caution would be if it takes paypal because that would show they have little grasp of our industry

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 6:27am:
Dan knows a guy in it so I figured we could both ask him about it and join under him. Since he is a net marketer, that also may draw him into our team.

Did you want to talk to him? I was going to and to tell him Dan sent me but if you want to jump in first I can go with that. It is probably your turn to be in the lead.

http://oldbuddy.info/grow/

My only caution would be if it takes paypal because that would show they have little grasp of our industry

Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


Quote:
My main questions regarding downlinefarm.com are:
1. What payment processors do they support?
2. Is there a measure for how much traffic they deliver to your links when upgraded to Gold membership? (etc. X visitors/per month)
3. Is it any good when it comes to promoting PTC or PTP sites?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Feb, 2019 at 6:53am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm:
Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


The size of the member base would also be interesting. Knowing if it has caught on with the community

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Feb, 2019 at 4:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Feb, 2019 at 9:24pm:
Thanks for pointing that out!

I've just contacted him and pointed him to this thread. :)
Part of my questions for reference:


anything yet?  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 9th Feb, 2019 at 12:00am

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Feb, 2019 at 4:53pm:
anything yet?  :-?

Nothing yet.. I'm checking my emails daily. :)

But well.. each one checks his emails at his own pace.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 9th Feb, 2019 at 8:54am
I just got the email and registered so I could answer.

In my opinion Downline Farm is not a big money maker, but it is a place to promote to get contacts and referrals for a few programs, especially AIOP which I use it for.

I get paid with PayPal and as I remember that's all they offer.

As Of February 6, 2019 = 2876 members.

I upgraded a few months ago and so far it has made a profit every month.

The best thing I like about it is the Admin, he is an honest guy that is trying to succeed just like most of us are, so I am glad to support him.

Since I am Gold, I added three programs of my own, but I don't bother adding links to most of the others. I am strong on AIOP so that helps.

What I would suggest is one of your group join free and look it over to see if it fits your agenda and then ask me any questions that pop up.

I set the option to email me if there are replies here and will try to answer any question you come up with.

Thanks for asking.

P.S. One reason I may have been delayed in answering was we just got back from a trip to Las Vegas and I had to travel light to get the best airfare.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:57pm
Also, how are the random referrals? Is it a large number or just a few

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 9th Feb, 2019 at 11:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm:
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

Well, the advertising side of it could prove to be useful.

It's not like it would become our main earner for now, but if it could provide a few referrals to other sites, plus some earnings to lower the membership cost, I would probably be interested. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 10th Feb, 2019 at 6:51am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:56pm:
The paypal thing is a major red flag and shortsighted. We all know how paypal likes to play gotcha in this industry especially as sites (and transactions) grow.

I'm willing to guess that a paypal only site might actually be a hindrance to people joining these days. If we do join, we definitely need to motivate the owner to make his processor structure more bullet proof

I'm not sure that is a problem, since they are primarily a downline builder with each dowline program using their own processors. I know I have used Fusioncash over a decade and they still use PayPal for most members.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 10th Feb, 2019 at 6:57am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 6:57pm:
Also, how are the random referrals? Is it a large number or just a few

It has been just a few for me, but I just upgraded. I do have 26 including my own.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Feb, 2019 at 8:00am
This is also on ygp's fixed ads so it is safe to assume it has their support. If that is the case, it should see good member growth

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Feb, 2019 at 5:08pm

oldbuddy wrote on 9th Feb, 2019 at 8:54am:
Since I am Gold, I added three programs of my own

Are those three programs on an external page also visible to others, to the non-members?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 11th Feb, 2019 at 3:07am

dansbanners wrote on 10th Feb, 2019 at 5:08pm:
Are those three programs on an external page also visible to others, to the non-members?

The programs are visible to all Downline Farm members only, so non-members would need to join free to to see them. If they join through my link, I also have some flexibility to hide some programs to reduce clutter.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Feb, 2019 at 1:00am

oldbuddy wrote on 11th Feb, 2019 at 3:07am:
The programs are visible to all Downline Farm members only, so non-members would need to join free to to see them. If they join through my link, I also have some flexibility to hide some programs to reduce clutter.

How many views does it get? Do they provide the stats?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Feb, 2019 at 6:37pm
So what say ye SS? Are you going to check this out?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Feb, 2019 at 7:20pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Feb, 2019 at 6:37pm:
So what say ye SS? Are you going to check this out?

I'm thinking of doing so..
Oldbuddy can we have your ref-link?

If possible it would be cool if you could post it in our downline builder board:

https://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?board=downlinebuilder

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Feb, 2019 at 12:25am
After contacting through email, oldbuddy passed me his ref link so I'm now in.
Here are some internal stats you may find interest in:


Quote:
General Statistics

Total Members As Of February 18, 2019 = 2921
************
Total Members End Of January, 2019 = 2859
Value of each share for January 2019 = $0.496302
************
Total Members End Of December, 2018 = 2702
Value of each share for December 2018 = $0.49764
************
Total Members End Of November, 2018 = 2556
Value of each share for November 2018 = $0.733434

***********
Total Members End Of October, 2018 = 2433
Value of each share for October 2018 = $0.474762

***********
Total Members End Of September, 2018 = 2273
Value of each share for September 2018 = $0.459596


I have not upgraded yet, so if anyone joins intending to do so please let me know so that I do upgrade first. :)
I'll look deeper into it and possibly get to add my ref links in the downline builders there soon.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Feb, 2019 at 12:25am:
After contacting through email, oldbuddy passed me his ref link so I'm now in.
Here are some internal stats you may find interest in:


I have not upgraded yet, so if anyone joins intending to do so please let me know so that I do upgrade first. :)
I'll look deeper into it and possibly get to add my ref links in the downline builders there soon.



It's growing but still not very big yet. Due to the seniority system, this could be beneficial

I am interested in joining

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Feb, 2019 at 7:51am
Having to copy your referrer's info into the form could lose us lots of referrals. That's not the best system since many people like to bypass referrers. That will need to be tested for effectiveness.

So your only options for payouts are paypal or ORU. ORU charges a monthly fee plus $24.95 to start. If we use paypal, they might freeze our account. Maybe if the site paypal gets frozen they will be forced to use crypto

It might be wise to wait a while to cash out. Too bad we couldn't spend that money on advertising

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Feb, 2019 at 11:46pm
Thanks, I've just confirmed you're in my downline.

I think I'll be fine with PayPal on this one.. not that I will cashout anytime soon.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Feb, 2019 at 12:50am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Feb, 2019 at 11:46pm:
Thanks, I've just confirmed you're in my downline.

I think I'll be fine with PayPal on this one.. not that I will cashout anytime soon.. :)


I find the site, especially the downline builder, to be a little messy. It is also slow to load at times. This could be a problem as it gets larger

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Feb, 2019 at 2:30am

moneymarketing wrote on 21st Feb, 2019 at 12:50am:
I find the site, especially the downline builder, to be a little messy. It is also slow to load at times. This could be a problem as it gets larger

It's an old school design.. based on "tables" instead of "blocks" (like modern ones).

However that does not affect the loading times.. it's the loading of too many entries in one page that is responsible of that.

Take the downline builder page for example.. I bet loading all the banners at once is the main cause.

Just take a look at this:



The site is trying to load all these banners from external sites that have most likely removed them or do not exist at all.
So, all of these are trying to load until a timeout happens..  :-/

Now having so many without removing the invalid ones is a sign of really bad maintenance.. which is a negative for newcomers, especially those who browse in mobile devices..

However I'll try adding my ref ids to some of the links there and see how it goes.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:22pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm:
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

There are no provisions for individual members to add banners to their link listing. Keep in mind that this is not your normal downline builder, but an actual income producing program in it's infancy.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:59pm

oldbuddy wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:22pm:
There are no provisions for individual members to add banners to their link listing. Keep in mind that this is not your normal downline builder, but an actual income producing program in it's infancy.


That's too bad. Banners make promoting so much more effective. The site is poorly laid out in ways but I guess if it is for income it doesn't matter too much

BTW SS, I will be getting paid by paypal soon in one of the few sites left that still pays that way. I suggest you get ready to upgrade so as to benefit

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 8:20pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Feb, 2019 at 8:28pm:
SS,

I'm trying to put a banner into the downline builder section. Any clue on the coding I should use?

Well, there is a way that works..  :P
I took a look at the code of some downline builder entries that had a banner showing up and they seem to be including the image within the description using simple HTML syntax.. so to add an image you can use the following code:


Code (html):
<img src="https://preview.ibb.co/mBxEh5/Forum_Logo800x125.png"/>;


Just replace the banner URL with your own and insert it in the description. :)

Basically add some short description text, then break the line and paste this code there.
After saving it will show your own banner.

I added the FamilyClix entry just to check it out.

Normally a site should be preventing us from entering HTML code in input fields as it is really easy to hack it.
For example one could use javascript code there and alter all links showing up to point to his own ref ids.. just like that. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 9:13pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 8:20pm:
Well, there is a way that works..  :P
I took a look at the code of some downline builder entries that had a banner showing up and they seem to be including the image within the description using simple HTML syntax.. so to add an image you can use the following code:


Code (html):
<img src="https://preview.ibb.co/mBxEh5/Forum_Logo800x125.png"/>;


Just replace the banner URL with your own and insert it in the description. :)

Basically add some short description text, then break the line and paste this code there.
After saving it will show your own banner.

I added the FamilyClix entry just to check it out.

Normally a site should be preventing us from entering HTML code in input fields as it is really easy to hack it.
For example one could use javascript code there and alter all links showing up to point to his own ref ids.. just like that. :)


That's awesome! It works like a charm. Even with an animated gif!



[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 10:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 9:13pm:
That's awesome! It works like a charm. Even with an animated gif!



[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=z02-thanks.gif]

Also, I forgot to mention, since it's you that posted that entry, by clicking the "DEL" you can remove it afterwards.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 24th Feb, 2019 at 4:15am
As a payback for that tip, I carried it one step further and used some of my own banners to show more detail on how they can earn from it. They will help my downline too, so they have more incentive to join.




Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 10:48pm:
Also, I forgot to mention, since it's you that posted that entry, by clicking the "DEL" you can remove it afterwards.



Yep. Already figured out the DEL button when I tried posting earlier  [smiley=lolx.gif]

BTW, Dan was asking about the BoB exchangers working in there. I told him I didn't think it would work

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 24th Feb, 2019 at 12:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 7:31am:
Yep. Already figured out the DEL button when I tried posting earlier  [smiley=lolx.gif]

BTW, Dan was asking about the BoB exchangers working in there. I told him I didn't think it would work

They will work but I think it will not be a relevant place for them there.

The downline builder is for specific programs and the image should show information about the program itself..

Keep in mind that the banner itself is just to attract the attention, it's not supposed to be clickable nor contain information about other programs.

That would cause confusion, as it's not dynamic banner advertising space.

But other than that we can use it normally as a downline builder with the BoB banner that describes BoB program itself. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Feb, 2019 at 10:14pm

SolidSnake wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 12:48pm:
They will work but I think it will not be a relevant place for them there.

Is that an assumption that the BoB exchange would work in there or did you test it out? Cause some forms or programs do require that the image ends in a .jpg or .gif format.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Feb, 2019 at 1:46am

dansbanners wrote on 24th Feb, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Is that an assumption that the BoB exchange would work in there or did you test it out? Cause some forms or programs do require that the image ends in a .jpg or .gif format.

They allow html code to be inserted which is already a big security hole, so I don't expect them to run a validation on the image extension.

I personally wouldn't try it, since it defeats the downline builder's purpose, and could even put my account at risk.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Feb, 2019 at 3:50pm
I got paid SS, so just waiting for you to upgrade  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Feb, 2019 at 10:07pm

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Feb, 2019 at 3:50pm:
I got paid SS, so just waiting for you to upgrade  :money

Well, here I am.. upgraded to Gold..  [smiley=z06-guitar.gif]

It shows up in my upgrade page so the process is completed.
And I've added R4A in both Bitcoin and Income programs categories, plus YGP in PTCs.

I saw Paidverts was already added twice, so I'm not the first one to add in multiple categories, and I also added my username there.

I like the idea of preventing users from spamming the downline builder with hundreds of programs.
At least now they have to get in the trouble of creating multiple accounts to add many programs at once. [smiley=lolx.gif]

Let's see what the first month will deliver..
Oh, and oldbuddy check out your commissions.. we should make sure the system actually works.  ;D

[edit]Funny thing is I already got a referral for R4A coming from downlinefarm within a few hours.. :o[/edit]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Feb, 2019 at 7:40am
I upgraded so check your stats

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Feb, 2019 at 9:16am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Feb, 2019 at 7:40am:
I upgraded so check your stats

Confirmed!

Both in my referrals list and I also got a $0.7 commission, so we're cool!

Title: Re: DownlineFarm.com - A downline builder with benefits
Post by oldbuddy on 23rd Feb, 2019 at 7:16pm
Thank you gentlemen, I hope you do well with it.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Feb, 2019 at 12:19am
If a site has more than one signup link in the downline builder, it might be wise to put your user ID in each one in case your downline chooses the wrong one

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Feb, 2019 at 2:06am

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Feb, 2019 at 12:19am:
If a site has more than one signup link in the downline builder, it might be wise to put your user ID in each one in case your downline chooses the wrong one

Yeap, of course.. each one is in different listing.

So, today I also got a referral for YGP from downlinefarm... Not sure how they do it but the system seems to be working!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:23am

SolidSnake wrote on 25th Feb, 2019 at 10:07pm:
Well, here I am.. upgraded to Gold..  [smiley=z06-guitar.gif]


Oh, and oldbuddy check out your commissions.. we should make sure the system actually works.  ;D


Thanks, my commission is there.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Feb, 2019 at 9:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm:
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

You can disable "Newsletters" in your profile page.. :)

There's a different checkbox there for referral notifications as well, but I guess you'd love to keep that on..  ::)  :P

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by oldbuddy on 1st Mar, 2019 at 5:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Feb, 2019 at 4:40pm:
I don't like the steady stream of emails pushing programs on people. That could turn people off

I don't mind at all, since those emails go to my referrals too and if they sign up to the program being pushed I get the referral (if I have my ID updated in it).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Mar, 2019 at 6:57pm
Good points guys

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS. I want to test this site at neobux. At worst people will sign up and add to our seniority

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 6:46am


:cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 7:35am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am:
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS. I want to test this site at neobux. At worst people will sign up and add to our seniority


Changed my mind. I'll run a one week campaign at r4a

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 9:54am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 7:35am:
Changed my mind. I'll run a one week campaign at r4a





Quote:
You have referred a new member. Congratulations.


[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 5:53pm
It's funny to watch people be so greedy they can't let you win a referral contest. I saw the same thing at r4a where the number of opposing referral hits went up by about 50% to match mine and then down again the very next week.

On the positive side, if it happens here at DF it will help all of us because it will increase our seniority but it is still kind of embarrassing to watch

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 8:31pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2019 at 5:53pm:
It's funny to watch people be so greedy they can't let you win a referral contest. I saw the same thing at r4a where the number of opposing referral hits went up by about 50% to match mine and then down again the very next week.

On the positive side, if it happens here at DF it will help all of us because it will increase our seniority but it is still kind of embarrassing to watch


Take a look at this guy:






He's put on half as many hits in three days as he did in 15 days last week. Why? To win the contest? This is silly. How much is he spending to do this?

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:12pm
What can the points be used for? And how to earn points?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:13pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Mar, 2019 at 8:57am:
Good to see you in 5th place in the promoter contest SS.
Thanks! :)

I just use free credits in YGP (with my special free method), Paidverts (typical bulk ads), FamilyBTC (with the current speed there I'm set in credits to advertise for two lifetimes..   ;D ).

I will look up older programs, I used in the past, to see if I have any credits accumulated in my balance.

I also got another referral and they granted me a share profit of $0.94, due to your upgrade so thanks for that.  [smiley=beer.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2019 at 12:22am

dansbanners wrote on 4th Mar, 2019 at 8:12pm:
What can the points be used for? And how to earn points?


It's just a hit counter for the referral contest running every two weeks. $10 to $1 in prizes for the top ten

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm
That's nice. 8 referrals! Check your list guys. I think many from the r4a ad joined under the admin due to the way the sign up works but if everyone is benefiting it will excite the whole crowd

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Mar, 2019 at 11:30pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm:
That's nice. 8 referrals! Check your list guys. I think many from the r4a ad joined under the admin due to the way the sign up works but if everyone is benefiting it will excite the whole crowd

No change on my list.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Mar, 2019 at 6:17am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Mar, 2019 at 11:30pm:
No change on my list.. :)


That's odd. The tracker says only three came from r4a. I assumed the rest were random. Maybe they just weren't tracked properly due to cookie blocking or something

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 7th Mar, 2019 at 8:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Mar, 2019 at 6:17am:
That's odd. The tracker says only three came from r4a. I assumed the rest were random. Maybe they just weren't tracked properly due to cookie blocking or something

I got one from R4A today.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Mar, 2019 at 8:26am

SolidSnake wrote on 7th Mar, 2019 at 8:59pm:
I got one from R4A today.. :)


:-?

Now I am completely confused

:dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Mar, 2019 at 8:54am
I don't feel bad when I see other referral pages out there. I actually feel excited. I know those are people who are contributing to our 'seniority' and will eventually help us to earn money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Mar, 2019 at 9:15am
So my r4a one week ad has finished. Including random referrals, I received 15 referrals for 26.99. If I win the contest, which I should, that will be another $10. So that would be 15 referrals for $16.99 or just over $1.13 per referral. No upgrades yet.

I also emailed the admin and suggested he allow us to upgrade for a full year so that we don't need to bother with paypal for a year

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2019 at 3:47pm
So it looks like I was one of the 'lucky' ones that got all my programs purged from the downline builder. What a waste of work!  >:(

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Mar, 2019 at 11:50am

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2019 at 3:47pm:
So it looks like I was one of the 'lucky' ones that got all my programs purged from the downline builder. What a waste of work!  >:(

How exactly?  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Mar, 2019 at 2:28am

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Mar, 2019 at 11:50am:
How exactly?  :-?


As per a recent newsletter


Quote:
When members add their programs Incorrectly, not following the instructions, it causes malfunctions to the downline builder for EVERYONE.

So I have to delete programs that are added incorrectly. Check your added programs, if they are gone it's because they were deleted for the above mentioned reason.

The software programmers worked hard to fix  the problems that were caused by members programs that were added wrong.

Our business is to build your downlines. However, if you don't add your programs CORRECTLY your prospects cannot sign up, or EVEN VISIT YOUR programs.

Please follow the instructions EXACTLY. They are on your Home page, as well as the pages where you add your program.


The thing is, my programs weren't added wrong they were added right. The difference being I used your banner trick to display banners. Mine may have been duplicates but they were duplicates that had banners in them. The other links did not, so they went after mine and deleted them. At least that is the only reason I could see. And they only got motivated to clean up the page after we posted our banners

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Mar, 2019 at 2:02am

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Mar, 2019 at 2:28am:
The thing is, my programs weren't added wrong they were added right. The difference being I used your banner trick to display banners. Mine may have been duplicates but they were duplicates that had banners in them. The other links did not, so they went after mine and deleted them. At least that is the only reason I could see. And they only got motivated to clean up the page after we posted our banners

That's weird.. they didn't touch my entries.. :-?

But I did search prior to posting in order to make sure there was no previous entry for each program..

Funny thing is I was gonna state that it would be cool if they performed a cleanup to old entries that lead to closed sites.  :beatup

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Mar, 2019 at 3:14am

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Mar, 2019 at 2:02am:
That's weird.. they didn't touch my entries.. :-?

But I did search prior to posting in order to make sure there was no previous entry for each program..

Funny thing is I was gonna state that it would be cool if they performed a cleanup to old entries that lead to closed sites.  :beatup


I checked also. Two of the sites were not posted. One had a large banner which is probably what caused the offense and the other was animated which was probably also what drew attention.

You can be good, just not too good   ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Mar, 2019 at 7:39am
I'm going to give the r4a ad spot another shot. This time I'll use the main page and not a splash

We all benefit no matter what. Getting closer to the 250 downline below us mark for the whole site so our share benefits should double soon

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2019 at 8:10am
Stats are growing nice. I can't wait to do a test run at neobux  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Mar, 2019 at 2:45pm
Looks like we received our top promoter bonuses too! :)

These ones come every 2 weeks so if you top them both you get a fine $20 return per month.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2019 at 7:40pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th Mar, 2019 at 2:45pm:
Looks like we received our top promoter bonuses too! :)

These ones come every 2 weeks so if you top them both you get a fine $20 return per month.. :)


Yes,

It only cost me $27 plus free traffic to win the $10  ;D

PTC math wins again!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Mar, 2019 at 7:39am
It looks like I caused my promoter contest rival to up his game so that is good for all of us  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Mar, 2019 at 11:12pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Mar, 2019 at 7:39am:
It looks like I caused my promoter contest rival to up his game so that is good for all of us  :)

Let's see how far he'll go.. :)

Btw, I got another referral from a 1538(delivered)/50(ordered) visitors campaign at PV..  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Mar, 2019 at 6:02am

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Mar, 2019 at 11:12pm:
Let's see how far he'll go.. :)

Btw, I got another referral from a 1538(delivered)/50(ordered) visitors campaign at PV..  ;D


I've got bad news for him. I've just kicked in the afterburners. A fixed ad at Neobux.  :D


If only I could explain to him it is nothing personal, just business  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2019 at 12:54am
Are you getting any random referrals from neobux SS?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Mar, 2019 at 1:07am

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Mar, 2019 at 12:54am:
Are you getting any random referrals from neobux SS?

Nope.. I just got another one from PV.. to a total of 7 (including you).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Mar, 2019 at 7:28am
So I'm thinking how this could work is, once our referrals get a lot of people under them in the share program, it will make sense for them to upgrade since they will have the share multiplying system working in their favor. It may take to 60k or 70k members for people to have the incentive to upgrade but getting people in early now would be smart. It would make it easier to sell them on upgrades once they realize that their upgrade would be instantly cash flow positive

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Mar, 2019 at 9:34pm
So I re-added one of my banners. It shows up fine on my 'income generation' page but no longer shows on the main downline builder page

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Mar, 2019 at 7:24pm
Hey! I got my first one after 63 referrals!


Quote:
2019-03-20 09:15:26      N/A      Gold Downline Farm      0.70


That's cool!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

That also doubles my share earnings. Wow, I am starting to see how this can geometrically grow.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm
Our efforts are being noticed


Quote:
Valued Downline Farm Members,
I have noticed lately that several members are using Paid advertising services to promote Downline Farm.

I wanted to take this opportunity to let those members know how much I appreciate their putting their faith, and their hard-earned money into our business.

With all of the business opportunities out there, these members have chosen to invest in Downline Farm. I know how hard it is to find a business opportunity worth investing your money in. You have to be Brave to take those risks with your money.

The way our compensation plan works, EVERYBODY will benefit from the efforts of these brave members, so we ALL should appreciate their investment.

And lastly, I want to let members who spend their hard-earned money promoting us know that we are doing everything possible to make that investment pay off.

The way our compensation plan works, it builds Slowly over time. It's not designed to explode at the beginning and then fizzle, like other plans. It's built to create slow, steady, unstoppable Growth.

The secret ingredient You need to add is PATIENCE.

We have more income producing ideas that will add money to the profit sharing pool, but they are mostly things that would require a larger membership group than what we currently have.

Once we reach 5000 members we will start introducing these new income streams.

You can see what we add to the profit sharing pool Now on the "Stats" page. We share our profits from programs such as AIOP, WeeklyICO, the PTC and Bitcoin/Crypto programs, revenue from the advertising we have on the splash pages, and other things.

These additions to the profit sharing pool will only get bigger in the future. Right now we are a very small program, but growing steadily.

The PayPal issues really slowed down our momentum, but with the new payment processor (Stripe) we hope to get back to where we were soon.

Thanks again for investing in Downline Farm,
Roberto

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 1:12am

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Mar, 2019 at 10:17pm:
Our efforts are being noticed

The power of "giving".. ;)

I love it when we motivate people to do more than just stick around.
And it reflects in our earnings too..



The first month has already paid off the membership with just 1 upgraded referral (yeap.. you :D)..

Not to mention a bunch of referrals for other programs downlinerefs has got me..

I didn't get the "PayPal issues" part he was talking about... does that have to do with another program or his own account?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 6:57am

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 1:12am:
The power of "giving".. ;)

I love it when we motivate people to do more than just stick around.
And it reflects in our earnings too..



The first month has already paid off the membership with just 1 upgraded referral (yeap.. you :D)..

Not to mention a bunch of referrals for other programs downlinerefs has got me..

I didn't get the "PayPal issues" part he was talking about... does that have to do with another program or his own account?


Yes, I'm sitting at 22.99 for my month. This includes two first-place wins in the referral contest.  I had to spend some ad dollars to achieve that but since it is online earnings I spent, it would have been spent on advertising anyway and it got me one paid referral so far.

I think I recall him saying some members had problems with their PP accounts being limited

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Apr, 2019 at 7:13am
We also achieved the first seniority level bonus at 250+ members below us so our shares are effectively four each now

You need to jump on this Dan before I start compounding this like mad.

When the new paidverts site opens I'll be promoting this exclusively and they don't give you the option of trading shares to get BAP

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Apr, 2019 at 6:04pm
Good to see you, Dan, now we can build under you even as a free member. When the group gets large enough under you, you can upgrade for instant profits.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th Apr, 2019 at 5:51pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Apr, 2019 at 6:04pm:
Good to see you, Dan, now we can build under you even as a free member. When the group gets large enough under you, you can upgrade for instant profits.

Thanks. Yes, that's a possibility somewhere down the road.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:14pm
Good to see you on the team Rui. Thought we lost you there for a time  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:23pm
So according to Rui's signup number, SS should be at seniority position 376. That's over1/3 the way to the 3x share position based on seniority alone.

oldbuddy at #1363 is well into that territory  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Apr, 2019 at 12:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Apr, 2019 at 11:14pm:
Good to see you on the team Rui. Thought we lost you there for a time  :)


I've been around, lurking... like a ninja.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2019 at 10:31pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Apr, 2019 at 12:34pm:
I've been around, lurking... like a ninja.

;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Apr, 2019 at 12:27am
It's always good to have a ninja joining our downline..  :cool1

Welcome Rui!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:40pm
I see you have raced up to be in third place in the referral contest SS.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:42pm
I'm pretty consistently getting about 1 referral for every 2k page views at Neobux

Also, I can't wait for PTCshare to start up so I can put the ad on there. There should be some really strong activity there the first few weeks

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd May, 2019 at 2:20am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd May, 2019 at 10:42pm:
I'm pretty consistently getting about 1 referral for every 2k page views at Neobux

Also, I can't wait for PTCshare to start up so I can put the ad on there. There should be some really strong activity there the first few weeks

Nah, it's just that it's the start of the month and I got a PV campaign that did boost me there..

But if others start promoting as well, I'll just stick to the 4-10th positions.. :)

Btw, I haven't received a referral for almost 3 weeks now.. not sure what goes that wrong..  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2019 at 8:19pm

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd May, 2019 at 2:20am:
Nah, it's just that it's the start of the month and I got a PV campaign that did boost me there..

But if others start promoting as well, I'll just stick to the 4-10th positions.. :)

Btw, I haven't received a referral for almost 3 weeks now.. not sure what goes that wrong..  :dontknow


Were you able to upload their banners to PV. They are php files so I am not able to get them accepted. Did you convert them? If so, how?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2019 at 8:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th May, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Were you able to upload their banners to PV. They are php files so I am not able to get them accepted. Did you convert them? If so, how?


nevermind. The internet solved it  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th May, 2019 at 11:05pm
Approaching the 500 mark for people below in the downline

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th May, 2019 at 2:37am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th May, 2019 at 11:05pm:
Approaching the 500 mark for people below in the downline

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Jun, 2019 at 10:08am
My last referral joined 2 days ago and his ref id was 3486 so that's 560 positions below me.

Once the difference crosses 1000 positions the Seniority Share Multiplier will start kicking in and it will take care of my upgraded membership itself.

After then it will all be profit!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Another good thing is that it's relatively easy (compared to popular sites) to remain in the top 10 promoter positions for extra bonuses. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Jun, 2019 at 3:03pm
That's good to hear! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Jun, 2019 at 7:09pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jun, 2019 at 10:08am:
My last referral joined 2 days ago and his ref id was 3486 so that's 560 positions below me.

Once the difference crosses 1000 positions the Seniority Share Multiplier will start kicking in and it will take care of my upgraded membership itself.

After then it will all be profit!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Another good thing is that it's relatively easy (compared to popular sites) to remain in the top 10 promoter positions for extra bonuses. :)



Yes, things are going better than expected there. So much so that I've returned to advertising r4a at YGP with my share pack credits and will only advertise this via banners and PTCS when it starts. I'm getting a profit every month so far. and now have a $50 cushion at Paypal (not all from DF), so I don't need to win the contest or even compete. I'll use the more efficient banners to get my referrals and leave the contest to others. That will encourage more people to promote.

I think PTCS will provide enough hits to win the contest anyway but that won't be a priority. With banners, I hope to pick up two or three referrals per day

Seeing some signs of good life again in online earnings after a tough year

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Jun, 2019 at 3:53pm
I've added PTCShare to the PTC and Surveys section of downlinefarm downline builder, so make sure you add your username as well. :)

One good thing of our team-play is that we can share our entries.

We can only add up to 3 programs when upgraded each (or 1 program as free members as well), so we can add different ones and add all our referral links there.

This way we can have links for more programs we work on than the actual limit. ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jun, 2019 at 4:01pm
What do you think of this banner for downline farm? I'm not fond of the banners they have because the focus is not on the great affiliate opportunity which I think is the thing that makes the site stand out. This tries to address that and does get clicks and signups

How could it not? It's like a blaring traffic beacon!  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 1:02am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Jun, 2019 at 4:01pm:
What do you think of this banner for downline farm? I'm not fond of the banners they have because the focus is not on the great affiliate opportunity which I think is the thing that makes the site stand out. This tries to address that and does get clicks and signups

How could it not? It's like a blaring traffic beacon!  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]


Maybe you should add something like.. "Not just by your own referrals!".. maybe it would make a great gif.. ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 3:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Jul, 2019 at 1:02am:
Maybe you should add something like.. "Not just by your own referrals!".. maybe it would make a great gif.. ;)



Yes, that could work. For some reason, I resisted making it a gif but it still seems to work. I think it stands out well at most sites due to high contrast. A gif might take it to the next level but there is also the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

I'm pulling in two referrals per day on average so that is a good pace. I'm wondering if I were to give it to the admin, if our referring would explode upwards

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 5:48pm
The traffic at PTCS can be used to show the trafficG page. It gives one credit for two page views. Those credits can be converted to banner impressions which can be the DF banner. So that is also a way to multiply your banner traffic. I haven't tested the banner at trafficG but I think it will work there since the audience is good for that kind of thing

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 6:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Jul, 2019 at 5:48pm:
The traffic at PTCS can be used to show the trafficG page. It gives one credit for two page views. Those credits can be converted to banner impressions which can be the DF banner. So that is also a way to multiply your banner traffic. I haven't tested the banner at trafficG but I think it will work there since the audience is good for that kind of thing


I'm going to test the banner at TG. I have 300K impressions so 100K is a fair test. With the DF referral tracking system, we can see how many actual signups we get. The bonus is that this traffic is all free since we get paid to advertise at PTCS

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jul, 2019 at 12:30am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)


So PTCS is creating some nice positive synergy in these sites. I'm only two places behind you and got paid $23.71 thanks to the referral contests which were won due to my PTCS ads. So I'm paid up for a little while at DF. It should be about a month when we cross that 1k threshold unless we can do something to accelerate the process

The results are starting to come in on the TG campaign. 1 click per every 3000 views. That's not that good. No signups so far. It takes about 240 page views at PTCS to create that. I will continue to monitor the results

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Jul, 2019 at 4:37pm
It appears ORU is finally ready for prime time now that they have decided to add a free option to their network. I think we should consider this here since with it we will be able to bump Paypal and use this for our DF transactions. I'm sure you got the email. Let's discuss

Details:

Quote:
**ORU LITE members can receive payments from other members to their account (Including Downine Farm Commissions!).

**When an ORU LITE member refers another member who registers as Premium Member, the ORU LITE member receives a $10 Commission that same day.
You also qualify for Downline Commission DOWN TO 10 LEVELS.

**ORU LITE members can also add funds to their account with credit/debit cards at any time.

**ORU Premium Members get rewarded each day through the ORUScore reward system. (This is a fantastic, one-of-a-kind Profit Sharing feature)

**ORU LITE members ALSO get rewarded each day through the ORUScore system albeit a lesser score and reward.

**ORU LITE members automatically become Premium Members when their MYFUNDS account reaches $34.34.  Once this happens, their LITE account becomes Premium and they can request the ORU Visa Black Card.

**Once an ORU LITE member is upgraded to Premium Membership, they will be billed $5.95 from their MYFUNDS account.

**If a Premium Member fails to make the monthly membership payment of $5.95, their account temporarily reverts back to ORU LITE
free membership until such time that their account has accumulated at least $5.95 to make the Premium Membership payment and they are automatically re-activated for at least a whole membership month.

**An ORU LITE member can refer other ORU LITE members and receive ORUScore points which results in a higher reward each day.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
EVERY member of Downline Farm is being sent this message, so you must HURRY and sign up to ORU Right Now, BEFORE your referrals do, and ADD YOUR ORU ID To the "Income Programs" downline builder, or you will miss out on those ORU referrals.

So go now to your "Income Programs" page in Downline Farm. DO NOT sign up from any other ORU link, you Must sign up from your
Downline Farm account.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Jul, 2019 at 1:58pm

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Jul, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Now that's cool.. I got a random gold referral at DLF.

The referring url was from google which means the admin does a good SEO job. :)

And the referring ID was 3641 which means he's 715 positions after me, which is also awesome because we'll soon cross the 1000 positions mark below me granting an x3 share multiplier. :)

I've just checked the stats page in downlinefarm and noticed that we are now (=yesterday) at a total of 3724 members which means the last one that has joined is 798 positions below me.

Now that's a 5 days difference (5th - 10th of July) since my last post meaning that 83 people have joined since then, which translates to ~16 people joining daily.
At this rate it will take ~12 days to cross 1000 positions below me

Based on our IDs here's how many days remain based on the above rate to hit x3 share multiplier
Member ID Positions Remaining Days (~16 members/day)
SolidSnake 2926 202 ~12
moneymarketing 2928 204 ~12
dansbanners 3280 444 ~27
ruicarlov 3302 578 ~36

(Here's an example that works in our case for outside visitors)

Just by being upgraded and having 1 upgraded referral the system grants us 2 shares.
So with the x3 multiplier we earn the amount of 6 shares in the Profit Sharing Pool which based on an average of $0.50 equals $3.
And if we have an upgraded referral below us that does the same we earn another $3 as a matching bonus just by him.
Plus another $0.70 as a 10% for his own upgrade.

So we end up with $6.70 with just 1 upgraded referral. :)
So the cost of our upgrade is almost fully covered and then there are extra bonuses for more referrals or the top referrers contest monthly.

Plus we get free referrals for our programs in the downline builder every now and then.. :)

:money [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jul, 2019 at 9:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 11th Jul, 2019 at 1:58pm:
I've just checked the stats page in downlinefarm and noticed that we are now (=yesterday) at a total of 3724 members which means the last one that has joined is 798 positions below me.

Now that's a 5 days difference (5th - 10th of July) since my last post meaning that 83 people have joined since then, which translates to ~16 people joining daily.
At this rate it will take ~12 days to cross 1000 positions below me

Based on our IDs here's how many days remain based on the above rate to hit x3 share multiplier
Member ID Positions Remaining Days (~16 members/day)
SolidSnake 2926 202 ~12
moneymarketing 2928 204 ~12
dansbanners 3280 444 ~27
ruicarlov 3302 578 ~36

(Here's an example that works in our case for outside visitors)

Just by being upgraded and having 1 upgraded referral the system grants us 2 shares.
So with the x3 multiplier we earn the amount of 6 shares in the Profit Sharing Pool which based on an average of $0.50 equals $3.
And if we have an upgraded referral below us that does the same we earn another $3 as a matching bonus just by him.
Plus another $0.70 as a 10% for his own upgrade.

So we end up with $6.70 with just 1 upgraded referral. :)
So the cost of our upgrade is almost fully covered and then there are extra bonuses for more referrals or the top referrers contest monthly.

Plus we get free referrals for our programs in the downline builder every now and then.. :)

:money [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Yes, cash flow positive just for being on the team and plugging the site into free PTCS advertising  :money [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Jul, 2019 at 3:26pm
So, it seems to have taken a bit longer than expected..  :)


Quote:
Total Members As Of July 30th, 2019 = 3826

Just 100 more positions left for my upgrade.. but it took 20 days to get the last 100.

So maybe next month we'll get there. :)

It will be my wedding gift I guess..  ;D

Furthermore.. we got another email from DLF:

Quote:
I hope you've had a great month of July, and will have an even Better August.

This email is going out to All of our Gold members.

As you may know, PayPal has been closing accounts of many Online Advertising services. Now Stripe has started doing the same.

One of the Advertising Services we use for our Gold Rotator Ad Co-op were victims of this, so I wasn't able to place my advertisement with them this month.

I decided to Refund that money to you, our Gold Members, by putting it into the Profit Sharing Pool.

It's not much, as it was only ONE of our advertising sources that we couldn't use, but it should give your July Profit Sharing commission a little boost. And if you have Gold referrals, your Matching Bonuses will also get a boost.

Thanks again for being such an important part of our Downline Farm family.

So we expect another boost this month..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2019 at 7:21am

SolidSnake wrote on 31st Jul, 2019 at 3:26pm:
So, it seems to have taken a bit longer than expected..  :)

Just 100 more positions left for my upgrade.. but it took 20 days to get the last 100.

So maybe next month we'll get there. :)

It will be my wedding gift I guess..  ;D

Furthermore.. we got another email from DLF:
So we expect another boost this month..


With the matching bonus that $50 might push us pretty close to profit.

I know I have slowed on the referring. Only about 1-2 per day. It will pick up when I get to the next level at PTCS and I start spending more on banners. Until then all the cash is rolled back into BAP ads to get me to the next level

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Aug, 2019 at 10:03pm
So, this was a nice month in DLF! :)

[/td]
2019-06-15 00:01:04 N/A Matching Bonus 2.12 Unpaid
2019-06-16 00:03:07 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-06-26 06:03:44 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-01 00:01:05 N/A Profit Sharing 1.95 Unpaid
2019-07-01 00:03:06 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-07-04 22:51:19 N/A Gold Random Referral 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 1.95 Unpaid
2019-07-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 0.49 Unpaid
2019-07-16 00:03:05 N/A Top Promoter Winner 1.00 Unpaid
2019-07-24 08:30:38 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-07-26 07:51:53 ****** Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2019-08-01 00:01:06 N/A Profit Sharing 2.93 Unpaid
2019-08-01 00:03:04 N/A Top Promoter Winner 5.00 Unpaid
Total Owing: $20.24

To think that this is basically passive earnings with a $7 investment and some spare advertising used upon it..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Aug, 2019 at 3:51am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Aug, 2019 at 10:03pm:
So, this was a nice month in DLF! :)
To think that this is basically passive earnings with a $7 investment and some spare advertising used upon it..  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Good for you SS! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 5:46pm
Cool!

I just checked my commissions and I'm now up to three upgrades. That should help your matching bonuses too SS.  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:15pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 5:46pm:
Cool!

I just checked my commissions and I'm now up to three upgrades. That should help your matching bonuses too SS.  :money



:o

LOL! Make that 5.

I don't know what is happening but I guess as these people see the downline grow under them they want to participate in the upgrade. Very cool  :money :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:28pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 9:15pm:
:o

LOL! Make that 5.

I don't know what is happening but I guess as these people see the downline grow under them they want to participate in the upgrade. Very cool  :money :D



I think I'm reading the chart wrong. It looks like four but one appears to be a duplicate so it could be three if the duplicate gets removed. I also counted one that was already an upgrade twice.

But it looks like three for sure

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Aug, 2019 at 11:43pm
I'm not sure I understand the carry over effect of the program?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:40am

dansbanners wrote on 9th Aug, 2019 at 11:43pm:
I'm not sure I understand the carry over effect of the program?



Quote:
Gold Members get a 100% Matching Bonus on Profit Share earnings of your personally referred Affiliates. (EG: If they earn $10, You earn $10)


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Aug, 2019 at 3:57pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:40am:
Gold Members get a 100% Matching Bonus on Profit Share earnings of your personally referred Affiliates. (EG: If they earn $10, You earn $10)

Just keep in mind that this *ONLY* includes commissions earned through share profits.. this does not include bonuses from referral upgrades or top referrer contest earnings etc.


Quote:
Income Streams
Downline Farm offers you 4 income streams:

Referral Commissions
Profit Sharing Pool <- this is the one we are talking about
Matching Bonus
Commissions From 3rd Party Programs


It's rather easy to calculate that profit:


Here's my own example:
My id is 2926 and by the end of July the number of members excedded 3830. This means that 900+ people have joined the program after me. That puts me in the 250 - 999 range in the seniority multiplier scale which means my shares get multiplied by x2 for now.

I have upgraded myself and have 2 upgraded referrals so according to the first table I get 2 shares.
So my total shares count equals 4 after the multiplication (x2).

MM is at the next tier based on the first table getting 4 shares that are also multiplied by 2 so his total number of shares is 8.

Now the actual share profit is based on the number of shares multiplied by the monthly amount of the profit pool as shown in the Stats page:
Value of each share for July, 2019 = $0.733402

So my share profits were: 4 x $0.733402 = $2.93
MM's share profits were: 8 x $0.733402 = $5.87

Now that we understand the basic share profit we can get to the Seniority multiplier increase:
As I said 900+ people have joined the program after me..
Once another 100 people join the program (not my own referrals - generally people that join the program under anyone's link), I will enter the 1000 - 3000 range so my multiplier gets increased to x3 instead of x2, thus my final number of shares gets increased to 2 x3 = 6 shares. MM gets to 4 x3 = 12 shares.

So based on the previous basic share profit of $0.733402 here are our calculations again:
My share profits *would be*: 6 x $0.733402 = $4.40
MM's share profits *would be*: 12 x $0.733402 = $8.80

And finally keep in mind that we also get a 100% matching bonus, so if MM gets $8.80 I also get that amount.. and he gets his own bonuses from his direct referrals as well.

The most important but actually simple thing in DLF is that the more people get in the program the more we all earn. It's a big profit pool we share here. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Aug, 2019 at 6:50pm
That gives us a huge incentive to refer as well with that sharing bonus.

That's why I'm probably going to put all my DF earnings above expenses into a NB ad or something like that

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Aug, 2019 at 10:47am

moneymarketing wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:28am:
Also, I dropped a neobux traffic bomb on DF so that should get us to the next share threshold by month-end, SS

And I already got my 3rd Gold Ref!  [smiley=crazy.gif]

He's joined under me coming from my YGP campaign at Jul 22, 2019, and just upgraded!

That's awesome!
I'm now standing at 4 shares x2 = 8 shares

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Aug, 2019 at 8:46pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm:
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup


Yes, I wasn't too pleased with that either. They also don't have a very good selection of promotional banners but I have compensated by making my own.

The reason I was willing to overlook the username being inserted was because every member that joins after you will eventually contribute to your number of shares. Also, because it shares site revenues, everyone will benefit from site earnings anyway so it kind of mitigates the risk of losing your referrals.

Even with that, I've managed to gain 254 referrals so there are some honest people out there. I'm not sure I want the cheaters in my team anyway

I think the positives outweigh the negatives and SS, oldbuddy and I are already in positive cash flow after only a few months (mainly because of the referral contest)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Aug, 2019 at 11:00am

rotate4all.com wrote on 13th Aug, 2019 at 7:21pm:
It all sounds good, HOWEVER the only reason I haven't joined or promoted this program yet is because you have to manually enter your Sponsor's name when registering:



WTF is up with that?  :beatup

Yeap that's annoying, and the site is poorly designed based on today's standards..

But even so, at least it works.. it seems to me that even older web users actually understand how it works and get along with their design issues..

Just a notice though (not intended to apply force or sth, just being informative), if you ever decide to join the program please respect our chain and join using the last link in the DLF downline builder..

This way the whole team benefits equally and the favor will be returned in another program in the future.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th Aug, 2019 at 4:39pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Aug, 2019 at 11:00am:
Just a notice though (not intended to apply force or sth, just being informative), if you ever decide to join the program please respect our chain and join using the last link in the DLF downline builder..

This way the whole team benefits equally and the favor will be returned in another program in the future.

I second it!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Aug, 2019 at 7:48am

Quote:
Total Members As Of August 11th, 2019 = 3878


I added 31 in my ad blitz so that brings us to 3909 or less than 20 needed in the second half of the month to get SS and me to the next share level

I've created two new banners. The click rate is excellent but I'm not sure about the conversion rate with the needs to add the referral name in. If the conversion is the same (usually 10% of clicks sign up) then the site is getting more signups which is a good thing even if we are getting burned





Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Aug, 2019 at 3:18pm
Haven't had any referrals for three days even though I'm promoting more than ever and was consistently getting two per day  :dontknow

Seeing 'anomalies' again

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Aug, 2019 at 11:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Aug, 2019 at 3:18pm:
Haven't had any referrals for three days even though I'm promoting more than ever and was consistently getting two per day  :dontknow

Seeing 'anomalies' again

Total Members As Of August 18th, 2019 = 4031

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Aug, 2019 at 8:52am

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Aug, 2019 at 11:59pm:
Total Members As Of August 18th, 2019 = 4031

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]


Wow! Huge bump. 200 new members  :money

So that's where all my referrals were going  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Aug, 2019 at 7:59am

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Aug, 2019 at 7:48am:
I added 31 in my ad blitz so that brings us to 3909 or less than 20 needed in the second half of the month to get SS and me to the next share level

I've created two new banners. The click rate is excellent but I'm not sure about the conversion rate with the needs to add the referral name in. If the conversion is the same (usually 10% of clicks sign up) then the site is getting more signups which is a good thing even if we are getting burned





I sent these to the admin. He said he would share them in a future email so this should give our members a boost in their promotions. I never felt any of the banners explained the true benefits of the programs but these ones will bring clickers in with the right mindset from the start. They also have a great CTR

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 2:11am
Another motivating bonus:


Quote:
Referral/Promoter Contest

How This Contest Works:
This is a Referral contest, but it is tied to our "Top Promoter Contest"
This contest runs on the schedule of the "Top Promoter Contest"
Only the top 25 finalists in the "Top Promoter Contest" qualify for this contest
One Prize will be awarded to the members with the most referrals at the end of each contest period.
Prizes may vary from month to month, and will be added to the winner's commissions.

Current Contest:

August 16th Through August 31st, 2019

Prize: $25.00

1st Place= $15

2nd Place= $10

3rd Place= $5

It seems that this may have been run a year ago and has been on stand by ever since, as the list of the previous winners doesn't match the current ones in the top promoters list.

Either way it's a good feature to inspire more people to promote.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 5:37am

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 2:11am:
Another motivating bonus:

It seems that this may have been run a year ago and has been on stand by ever since, as the list of the previous winners doesn't match the current ones in the top promoters list.

Either way it's a good feature to inspire more people to promote.


I told him in an email that this contest would be fairer if they embedded our referral link. Saying that if we don't get referrals, we don't make money and thus cannot afford to spend money promoting. This slows the growth of the site down

I hope he listens

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 7:34am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 5:37am:
I told him in an email that this contest would be fairer if they embedded our referral link. Saying that if we don't get referrals, we don't make money and thus cannot afford to spend money promoting. This slows the growth of the site down

I hope he listens


His response:


Quote:
The Referrer name field is only there for administrative purposes, it does
Not determine who gets the referral. Your ID is encoded into the html
of the page when someone clicks on your link, they can't change it.

They could put Mickey Mouse in the field and it wouldn't affect anything.
It's just there because it makes my work easier when I have to check on
some things. Most people leave the field blank.

We used to use cookies, but with the new European regulations, it's just
too much of a hassle, so I turned it off.

Roberto


So that is great news (except that my referring is not as good as expected and now I only have myself to blame  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 10:14am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 7:34am:
His response:


So that is great news (except that my referring is not as good as expected and now I only have myself to blame  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

  :)

That's good to know..

I mean the "not required" thing... not the "blame yourself" thing.. well.. maybe a bit of that too.. ::)  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 4:17pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Aug, 2019 at 10:14am:
That's good to know..

I mean the "not required" thing... not the "blame yourself" thing.. well.. maybe a bit of that too.. ::)  ;D


[smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Aug, 2019 at 9:17pm
So I'm now budgeting for 250k banner impressions per week from PTCS.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Aug, 2019 at 5:38am
362 members in one month. That is a huge bump. Almost 10% growth in one month. Maybe the site is beginning to catch fire.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Sep, 2019 at 7:10am

Quote:
Profit Sharing      5.58


:o 8-) :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Sep, 2019 at 11:56pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Sep, 2019 at 7:10am:
:o 8-) :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Yay! Same here!  [smiley=11-freebeer.gif] :money

What would be interesting now would be an option to us to disable payouts just to let the cash fill up to one big payment instead of many small ones.

This way we could avoid a bunch of transaction fees.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Sep, 2019 at 2:59am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Sep, 2019 at 11:56pm:
Yay! Same here!  [smiley=11-freebeer.gif] :money

What would be interesting now would be an option to us to disable payouts just to let the cash fill up to one big payment instead of many small ones.

This way we could avoid a bunch of transaction fees.


I would also prefer to use that cash for upgrades. That would also save fees but I assume since it is a paypal subscrption that would be a bit more awkward.

So now we are complaining that the admin insists on paying us. There is no pleasing us!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Sep, 2019 at 3:27am

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm:
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think

Great! Congrats on winning the contest! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Sep, 2019 at 1:32pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Sep, 2019 at 8:58pm:
It looks like I won the referral contest  :cool1

In case you're wondering if you can get about 1 ref per day or a little better, you can win.

A one-day ad on neobux will do it, I think
Good job!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

How much do they charge for the 1 day ad?

PS.

Quote:
****************************************
Winner of the September 1st to 15th, 2019 contest:
Username: meneymarketing.
****************************************
;D How hard to write could it be?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Sep, 2019 at 6:33pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Sep, 2019 at 1:32pm:
Good job!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

How much do they charge for the 1 day ad?

PS.
;D How hard to write could it be?


$70  :o

Yes, it is a lot but you would also win the promoter contest too so you would get $25 in bonuses back. I will probably do it when we are getting our $100 maxed out every month

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Oct, 2019 at 5:42am
Personally, I find it difficult to believe we only got 65 referrals for the month of September. Considering I stepped up my referring and got a minimum of 25 (not counting the ones who quit). That means the entire rest of the site only got 40 after having brought in almost 400 the month before?  :-?

and it may not look like I'm promoting more but a larger majority of the clicks of the 16,000 are banner clicks. Like 50 per day. These are always higher quality clicks and usually produce up to a 10% sign up rate at most sites

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Oct, 2019 at 8:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Oct, 2019 at 5:42am:
Personally, I find it difficult to believe we only got 65 referrals for the month of September. Considering I stepped up my referring and got a minimum of 25 (not counting the ones who quit). That means the entire rest of the site only got 40 after having brought in almost 400 the month before?  :-?

and it may not look like I'm promoting more but a larger majority of the clicks of the 16,000 are banner clicks. Like 50 per day. These are always higher quality clicks and usually produce up to a 10% sign up rate at most sites



Quote:
Profit Sharing      6.49


I guess I can't really complain. Net costs before contest bonuses is down to 50 cents  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Oct, 2019 at 1:08pm
The contest was very active in this cycle. This is great and what makes the program so beneficial since we all benefit from every referral everyone brings in so the more active and competitive the contest the better we all do

And this shows that a well-designed referral contest can be very beneficial

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Oct, 2019 at 1:23pm
Everything smooth with DLF so far. :)

Just to keep us up to date I received a referral yesterday with ID:4336

So, by now our whole team is upgraded to x3 multiplier!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Oct, 2019 at 7:59am
After promoting a few other things in PTCS as an experiment I'm back to promoting this. At least these guys pay and I get the occasional upgrading referral. I think our referrals join for the right reasons also so the chances of them upgrading in the future are higher

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Oct, 2019 at 12:23am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Oct, 2019 at 7:59am:
After promoting a few other things in PTCS as an experiment I'm back to promoting this. At least these guys pay and I get the occasional upgrading referral. I think our referrals join for the right reasons also so the chances of them upgrading in the future are higher



I just topped 300 referrals.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

I have three upgrades so 1% is about normal in this industry. The great part is that, as  the site grows, I can contact these people and show them they can get instant cashback on any upgrade or turn their upgrades into an instant profit

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Oct, 2019 at 1:53pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Oct, 2019 at 12:23am:
I just topped 300 referrals.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

I have three upgrades so 1% is about normal in this industry. The great part is that, as  the site grows, I can contact these people and show them they can get instant cashback on any upgrade or turn their upgrades into an instant profit

Good for you on topping 300 referrals!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Oct, 2019 at 4:22pm

dansbanners wrote on 24th Oct, 2019 at 1:53pm:
Good for you on topping 300 referrals!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


And the best part is this helps all of us as those new members go under all of us

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Oct, 2019 at 6:31pm
Anyone else having trouble navigating the back office?

and people wonder why I'm paranoid  >:(

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Oct, 2019 at 9:05pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Oct, 2019 at 6:31pm:
Anyone else having trouble navigating the back office?

and people wonder why I'm paranoid  >:(


He tells me it is due to heavy advertising by members

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Oct, 2019 at 3:54pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Oct, 2019 at 9:05pm:
He tells me it is due to heavy advertising by members



This is looking like a DDOS attack to me. The number of hits on the referral contest has actually dropped yet I can only click on one or two pages when I can log in. This is a new problem that could wreck the site potential (It always seems to be something with these sites  :( )

Maybe you could talk to him SS as to whether or not it is a DDOS. I wouldn't know what questions to ask

One thing I've also noticed is that I can't access any of the pages where programs are posted. I wonder if this has to do with the potential exploit you were talking about a while back?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 30th Oct, 2019 at 11:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 29th Oct, 2019 at 3:54pm:
This is looking like a DDOS attack to me. The number of hits on the referral contest has actually dropped yet I can only click on one or two pages when I can log in. This is a new problem that could wreck the site potential (It always seems to be something with these sites  :( )

Maybe you could talk to him SS as to whether or not it is a DDOS. I wouldn't know what questions to ask

One thing I've also noticed is that I can't access any of the pages where programs are posted. I wonder if this has to do with the potential exploit you were talking about a while back?

Well.. if it was a DDoS attack it would prevent any access to the site.. not just some pages.

So, there must be something wrong with the banner pages.. and what's more wrong is that we're allowed to enter anything in the banner fields..

By anything I mean links, images.. but also javascript code which can do a lot of things to ruin a site.. or even code disguised as images and executed when attempting to load the image.

They could even inject btc mining scripts.. though antivirus messages would pop up instantly, plus we would notice the overall increase in our system load, so it's most likely not that..

What could also break a site's loading time is images that are no longer accessible.. but that would allow the page to load and just let the images appear broken, so it's also not that.

Something else that causes infinite loading times is forgetting to break a loop.. that's a programming issue in case they recently changed something in the site's code and accidentally created this bug.. I kind of doubt that too.. it's not the kind of site that gets updated often..

So, my best shot would be that somebody injected something through the banner fields..  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Nov, 2019 at 5:50am

SolidSnake wrote on 30th Oct, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Well.. if it was a DDoS attack it would prevent any access to the site.. not just some pages.

So, there must be something wrong with the banner pages.. and what's more wrong is that we're allowed to enter anything in the banner fields..

By anything I mean links, images.. but also javascript code which can do a lot of things to ruin a site.. or even code disguised as images and executed when attempting to load the image.

They could even inject btc mining scripts.. though antivirus messages would pop up instantly, plus we would notice the overall increase in our system load, so it's most likely not that..

What could also break a site's loading time is images that are no longer accessible.. but that would allow the page to load and just let the images appear broken, so it's also not that.

Something else that causes infinite loading times is forgetting to break a loop.. that's a programming issue in case they recently changed something in the site's code and accidentally created this bug.. I kind of doubt that too.. it's not the kind of site that gets updated often..

So, my best shot would be that somebody injected something through the banner fields..  :-/


Yes, everything is fine until I click on one of the links for the banner pages. Then the site gets that
glazed look in its eyes.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

I assume that whoever has done whatever has done it on all the spaces that banners can be added so it might be pretty easy to find the source of the problem




Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Nov, 2019 at 10:39pm

Quote:
Profit Sharing      6.84      Unpaid


So close!  ;D

16 cents in expenses. That's not even the price of a pizza!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 4th Nov, 2019 at 8:46pm

Quote:
Please be aware that the Downline Farm server is having issues right now (Nov. 4th, 2019).


Our hosting provider is working on it, and we hope to be back up and running smoothly soon.

I apologize for the inconvenience.

Thank you for your patience and support,
Roberto Santana


I guess others have noticed too

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Nov, 2019 at 5:50pm

SolidSnake wrote on 30th Oct, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Well.. if it was a DDoS attack it would prevent any access to the site.. not just some pages.

So, there must be something wrong with the banner pages.. and what's more wrong is that we're allowed to enter anything in the banner fields..

By anything I mean links, images.. but also javascript code which can do a lot of things to ruin a site.. or even code disguised as images and executed when attempting to load the image.

They could even inject btc mining scripts.. though antivirus messages would pop up instantly, plus we would notice the overall increase in our system load, so it's most likely not that..

What could also break a site's loading time is images that are no longer accessible.. but that would allow the page to load and just let the images appear broken, so it's also not that.

Something else that causes infinite loading times is forgetting to break a loop.. that's a programming issue in case they recently changed something in the site's code and accidentally created this bug.. I kind of doubt that too.. it's not the kind of site that gets updated often..

So, my best shot would be that somebody injected something through the banner fields..  :-/


I passed your insight along. Maybe it will help

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Nov, 2019 at 1:50am
Testing this on adhitz to see the response. If it is positive I might be able to start a small budget in order to grow the referral base. It will definitely be cheaper than neobux and the banner I made seems to be working quite well. So CPC ads on adhitz might be the ideal marketing base. Compounding any earnings out of this could do wonders with such a small userbase now.

I also like the broad-based network ads at AH. My gut tells me this could be effective

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Nov, 2019 at 10:16pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Nov, 2019 at 1:50am:
Testing this on adhitz to see the response. If it is positive I might be able to start a small budget in order to grow the referral base. It will definitely be cheaper than neobux and the banner I made seems to be working quite well. So CPC ads on adhitz might be the ideal marketing base. Compounding any earnings out of this could do wonders with such a small userbase now.

I also like the broad-based network ads at AH. My gut tells me this could be effective


So I managed to get 100 clicks on the adhitz banner....and not one sign up  :o :-?

Is that even possible? :-X :-/

I believe my signup rate at paidverts when I was advertising on adhitz was better than 10% of clicks

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Nov, 2019 at 10:40pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Nov, 2019 at 10:16pm:
So I managed to get 100 clicks on the adhitz banner....and not one sign up  :o :-?

Is that even possible? :-X :-/

I believe my signup rate at paidverts when I was advertising on adhitz was better than 10% of clicks



I just did a check back when I was running a banner for PV on adhitz. I had 90 signups from 733 clicks. So it was better than 10% yet I haven't had one signup from 100 clicks for DF

I'm going to run this ad for 20 days just to be fair. It will be interesting to see what my numbers will look like and what the site numbers will look like.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Nov, 2019 at 10:23pm

Quote:
Valued Downline Farm members,
we have added the 2019 Christmas Bonus to the profit sharing pool. Check out the "Stats" page for info.

The bonus is added now so that you will receive it in December.

Every upgraded member will see a little boost in their Profit Sharing Commissions for the coming month, compared to other months.

Not only that, but if you have Gold referrals, you will get a boost in Matching Bonus commissions on the 15th, which will increase your January earnings.

Free members can get a share of this bonus if they upgrade before the end of this month.

If you have a High Seniority position, or Gold referrals, you will almost surely earn more than the price of the upgrade this month.

Thank you for being part of the Downline Farm family,
Roberto Santana


[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Nov, 2019 at 12:07am

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Nov, 2019 at 10:23pm:
[smiley=12-party.gif]

Free beer for everyone! [smiley=beer.gif]  [smiley=11-freebeer.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Dec, 2019 at 7:39am
Even with the Christmas bonus, the profit sharing per share went down. I assume it is because there are more paid members so I think there are positives in that.

That aside, even apart from the promoter contest, net earnings were solid with two paid referrals.

0.70 commission
0.70 commission
1.71 Matching bonus
0.57 Matching bonus
0.57 Matching bonus
5.11 profit sharing

$9.36 total so the site upgrade is paying for itself whether I promote or not  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Dec, 2019 at 10:44pm
And since your earnings also help mine I get over-double ROI to my upgrade every month:

$6.84      Matching Bonus
$1.14      Matching Bonus
$0.70      Gold Downline Farm
$0.70      Gold Downline Farm
$5.11      Profit Sharing

Total Owing:      $14.49

And the best part of it all is this:
Total Members End Of November, 2019 = 4447

Which means there are already more than 1500 members that have joined after us.
Less than 1500 more members and we get an additional multiplier!  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Dec, 2019 at 8:25am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Dec, 2019 at 10:44pm:
And since your earnings also help mine I get over-double ROI to my upgrade every month:

$6.84      Matching Bonus
$1.14      Matching Bonus
$0.70      Gold Downline Farm
$0.70      Gold Downline Farm
$5.11      Profit Sharing

Total Owing:      $14.49

And the best part of it all is this:
Total Members End Of November, 2019 = 4447

Which means there are already more than 1500 members that have joined after us.
Less than 1500 more members and we get an additional multiplier!  :money


I love that matching bonus from my gains. This is where the team concept really helps us  :) 8-) :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Dec, 2019 at 5:29pm
Look who has joined the site...and the contest!

edelweis      2,247

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Dec, 2019 at 5:31pm

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Dec, 2019 at 5:29pm:
Look who has joined the site...and the contest!

edelweis      2,247

[smiley=12-party.gif]



I let the PO know who he is and his great potential for the site.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 30th Dec, 2019 at 11:23pm

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Dec, 2019 at 5:29pm:
Look who has joined the site...and the contest!

edelweis      2,247

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Strong card!

Rank: #23 with 4161 referrals, 450 currently active on PTCShare..

He could definitely help with DownlineFarm...  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Jan, 2020 at 1:26am
So, I just got a referral with ID:4762.

That's less than 1200 more members since the x4 multiplier!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Jan, 2020 at 6:51am

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Jan, 2020 at 1:26am:
So, I just got a referral with ID:4762.

That's less than 1200 more members since the x4 multiplier!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Yes, and then we are back in to 1 new share per 1000 so things should start to speed up a bit

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Feb, 2020 at 11:44pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Jan, 2020 at 1:26am:
So, I just got a referral with ID:4762.

That's less than 1200 more members since the x4 multiplier!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Nice bump in members this month to 4838

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Feb, 2020 at 11:52pm
I'm ahead by about $50 on this site and am netting out about $4 per month. So my upgrade is free plus $4 in commissions. I don't promote it except for free hits but I might start doing that again now that PTCS is forcing us to buy ads again

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Feb, 2020 at 12:04am

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Feb, 2020 at 11:52pm:
I'm ahead by about $50 on this site and am netting out about $4 per month. So my upgrade is free plus $4 in commissions.

That's good to know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 7th Feb, 2020 at 10:54am
I'm also earning similar profits regularly every month here. :)

We lose some in the transaction fees but well.. it's still work-less profit which is amazing.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Feb, 2020 at 10:00pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Jan, 2020 at 1:26am:
So, I just got a referral with ID:4762.

That's less than 1200 more members since the x4 multiplier!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


:-?

I'm stumped. How do you figure out your referrals ID#?

I've looked everywhere I can see and don't see a reference to it

Edit: I found it! If you click on the sales link a pop up comes up with the referral's ID# in the address  :cool1

My latest referral is 4968 so we are under 1000 to the next multiplier  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Mar, 2020 at 1:23am

moneymarketing wrote on 29th Feb, 2020 at 10:00pm:
:-?

I'm stumped. How do you figure out your referrals ID#?

I've looked everywhere I can see and don't see a reference to it

Edit: I found it! If you click on the sales link a pop up comes up with the referral's ID# in the address  :cool1

My latest referral is 4968 so we are under 1000 to the next multiplier  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Lol.. you got it with a better way than mine..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

My one is right clicking on the referral image in chrome, then selecting inspect.. and the referral id is in the highlighted line..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Mar, 2020 at 6:20am
Congrats on winning the referral contest, Dan!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Mar, 2020 at 8:32pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Mar, 2020 at 6:20am:
Congrats on winning the referral contest, Dan!  [smiley=12-party.gif]
Ha. Thanks moneymarketing! [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Mar, 2020 at 7:06am
We just topped 5000. I got referral # 5001  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th Mar, 2020 at 7:42pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Mar, 2020 at 7:06am:
We just topped 5000. I got referral # 5001  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Good for you! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2020 at 8:47pm

Quote:
March 2020      5000th Member Bonus      $150.00      **Bonus to celebrate our 5000th Member**


[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Mar, 2020 at 8:57pm
Are you saying you earned the $150 bonus?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2020 at 9:36pm

dansbanners wrote on 20th Mar, 2020 at 8:57pm:
Are you saying you earned the $150 bonus?


No, that will be split between the upgraded members times how many shares they have

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2020 at 9:37pm

Quote:
Dear Downline Farm family,
At the beginning of this month, March 2020, Downline Farm registered it's 5000th member.

CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED US ACHIEVE THIS MILESTONE.

To celebrate this milestone, we have added a Bonus to the Profit Sharing Pool.
(You can see this on the "Statistics" page, under the Site Navigation tab)

This means All of our Gold members will see a  Boost in their next profit sharing commissions.

For those of you who have Gold referrals, you will also see a boost in your Matching Bonuses.

This is a great time to upgrade if you're a Free member.

Note:
Though we have registered our 5000th member, that does Not mean we currently have 5000 registered members. That number represents the total number of members who have EVER registered, which includes members who have left DLF, as well signups who never verified their email and were deleted.
Our ACTUAL Total of members as of today is: 4579.

Thank you for being a valued member of DLF.
Roberto Santana


:)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 21st Mar, 2020 at 1:30am
So, only 13300 members to go before my seniority makes it worth going gold (assuming little fluctuation in value per share).

Slow and steady.....  :P

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 21st Mar, 2020 at 1:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Mar, 2020 at 9:36pm:
No, that will be split between the upgraded members times how many shares they have

Ok, so at least you'll get some out of it. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Mar, 2020 at 3:54pm

ruicarlov wrote on 21st Mar, 2020 at 1:30am:
So, only 13300 members to go before my seniority makes it worth going gold (assuming little fluctuation in value per share).

Slow and steady.....  :P



At the rate we're growing, that will be another 60 months or so   [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Apr, 2020 at 9:04pm

Quote:
2020-04-01 00:01:06      N/A      Profit Sharing      8.29


Hey! Look at that!

It looks like we turned a profit on profit sharing alone  :money :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 2nd Apr, 2020 at 1:07pm
I'd be careful if I were you. April 1st?   ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Apr, 2020 at 5:10pm

ruicarlov wrote on 2nd Apr, 2020 at 1:07pm:
I'd be careful if I were you. April 1st?   ::)

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd Apr, 2020 at 12:08am

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Apr, 2020 at 9:04pm:
Hey! Look at that!

It looks like we turned a profit on profit sharing alone  :money :cool1

It's not that untrue.. do you have an extra multiplier?

My stats go like this with 2 golden refs:


Quote:
2020-03-15 00:01:04      N/A      Matching Bonus      5.44      Unpaid
2020-03-15 00:01:04      N/A      Matching Bonus      2.72      Unpaid
2020-03-24 09:04:50      ***      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2020-03-26 07:23:24      ***      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2020-04-01 00:01:06      N/A      Profit Sharing      4.14      Unpaid
Total Owing:      $13.7

Either way it's double ROI on the upgrade. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Apr, 2020 at 5:28am

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd Apr, 2020 at 12:08am:
It's not that untrue.. do you have an extra multiplier?

My stats go like this with 2 golden refs:

Either way it's double ROI on the upgrade. :)



Yes, I have three upgrades, so I guess that is the difference

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Apr, 2020 at 1:49pm
I just bought a 30 day ad at R4A for DLF. This should help me to win or at least strongly compete in the promo contest

And I might just pick up one or two referrals (but I'm not getting my hopes up since they seem to get lost on the journey somehow)  ;D

If a 30-day ad at R4A doesn't produce significant results ay DLF, then I don't know what to say

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 10th Apr, 2020 at 2:03pm
Their landing page looks good, but their signup page is just horrible:



First of all, they're asking for too much information.
Second, you do not know which fields are optional and which are mandatory to be filled.
Third, users just don't know what to write in some fields like "ORU username".
Fourth, enter the 3 characters from the Security code just doesn't make any sense. Which 3 characters? ALL of them are characters. Numbers are also characters. Do they want us to write the numbers or the letters? Or only the characters of a specific color? Doesn't specify so it's very confusing.

I know from experience that if a user fails to fill a form the first time, they simply abandon it. That's why it's very important to ask specifically what you need in a form and not to ask too much information.

If they would simplify that form that would be an easy fix towards having more sign-ups.
Hell, I'd even signup as well but right now I'm unable to fill the form.

Also this header notice: "Only use a Gmail email address to register. Most other email clients will not work with our type of email server."
So now Bob can't join because he's got only a Yahoo email address? They should fix their e-mail server. It's not rocket science!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Apr, 2020 at 5:27pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 10th Apr, 2020 at 2:03pm:
Their landing page looks good, but their signup page is just horrible:



First of all, they're asking for too much information.
Second, you do not know which fields are optional and which are mandatory to be filled.
Third, users just don't know what to write in some fields like "ORU username".
Fourth, enter the 3 characters from the Security code just doesn't make any sense. Which 3 characters? ALL of them are characters. Numbers are also characters. Do they want us to write the numbers or the letters? Or only the characters of a specific color? Doesn't specify so it's very confusing.

I know from experience that if a user fails to fill a form the first time, they simply abandon it. That's why it's very important to ask specifically what you need in a form and not to ask too much information.

If they would simplify that form that would be an easy fix towards having more sign-ups.
Hell, I'd even signup as well but right now I'm unable to fill the form.

Also this header notice: "Only use a Gmail email address to register. Most other email clients will not work with our type of email server."
So now Bob can't join because he's got only a Yahoo email address? They should fix their e-mail server. It's not rocket science!


These are all good points and I have tried talking to him about some of them. He's not open to a lot of tips from experienced marketers. Another problem is that it is a script from a site and so it is difficult for him to make changes unless he goes back to the script makers themselves.

My problem though is with the inconsistency. I'm sure you can verify that, after the numbers get large enough, your referral rate should be fairly steady assuming you are not saturating your market. One good reason for that is because there are new people joining sites every day. The referral rate on that site seems to be relative to how close you are to winning the referral contest or the size of your downline. I can see myself getting 30 referrals from a site like Neobux early on but then see it drop to ten or less as the size of my team grows. Neobux is too steady a provider which is why I always go to them for a good measure of a site's ability to refer. Even though it is expensive, the ability to create a solid baseline for referring is matched by few.

I'm kind of glad that paidverts and PTCS are starting to gain that level of delivery as their active member base grows.

and another one is R4A which is which I've switched them into a top slot. You prices are good and your delivery is consistent

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Apr, 2020 at 11:34pm
Latest referral number 5224

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Apr, 2020 at 10:54pm
This month's balance already looks impressive:


Quote:
2020-04-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      8.29      Unpaid
2020-04-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      4.14      Unpaid


And another $1.4 from 2 golden upgrades plus the profit sharing value of this month, will add up to the summary.

Not to mention that we are getting close to another multiplier due to the membership growth, df gets better over time!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st May, 2020 at 7:05pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Apr, 2020 at 10:54pm:
This month's balance already looks impressive:


And another $1.4 from 2 golden upgrades plus the profit sharing value of this month, will add up to the summary.

Not to mention that we are getting close to another multiplier due to the membership growth, df gets better over time!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]



That's all well and good but then there is this:


Quote:
The Referral/Promoter contest is paused for now. We've had a huge increase in fake accounts, and it's allot of work to remove these from the referrals counter for the contest.


So when Mr smartas stops winning the contests suddenly the rules change. Maybe it is just a coincidence but we have seen this kind of 'change' before.

This is the old 'just when you get to the payout threshold the rules change' red flag.

We need to be cautious.

I was just about to put a chunk of cash on a huge R4A campaign since it was obviously working. Now all my advertising is suspended since there is no benefit for me referring anymore. The contest prizes would have reduced my expense but it still would have been a net loss. I was OK with it because the company downline grows.

Now I think I am beginning to understand why this is so small and why the community has not picked it up. It looks like it is being stifled. I'm getting very suspicious and am now declaring caution on this one

What a shame  >:(

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st May, 2020 at 11:20pm
That kind of sucks.. not unexpected though as using such an old unmaintained script is insecure to begin with..

Let's hope we have enough time to pull out some profit before things start to change in an increasingly fast rate like in YGP for example..

On the other hand, I don't think smartas plays a part in this.. seems to me like it's just another member there.

And if he's a good player, I wouldn't mind having him join us one day.. ;)

As for my final April's stats here is the summary:

Quote:
2020-04-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      8.29      Unpaid
2020-04-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      4.14      Unpaid
2020-04-24 07:53:15      ***      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2020-04-26 06:16:45      ***      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2020-05-01 00:01:05      N/A      Profit Sharing      3.05      Unpaid
Total Owing:      $16.88

I just hope for some stability..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2020 at 7:53am

SolidSnake wrote on 1st May, 2020 at 11:20pm:
That kind of sucks.. not unexpected though as using such an old unmaintained script is insecure to begin with..

Let's hope we have enough time to pull out some profit before things start to change in an increasingly fast rate like in YGP for example..

On the other hand, I don't think smartas plays a part in this.. seems to me like it's just another member there.

And if he's a good player, I wouldn't mind having him join us one day.. ;)

As for my final April's stats here is the summary:
I just hope for some stability..


I've definitely made a profit. I have over $100 sitting in paypal from the site and my two contest wins mean he will be paying $63 to me. I don't doubt that he will pay. Where my frustration lies is that I was ready to take this to the next level seeing as we were so close to the share multipliers. That is now shot down. R4A is quality views but quality views costs money. It is able to deliver over 200K hits per month to DLF but in order to make is somewhat cost-effective, you need to buy in bulk

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd May, 2020 at 5:10pm
I'm just glad our unofficial red flag system caught this. Now we can all be more cautious around the site and watch for other signs  :phew

That might be a good ebook idea to market.

Red flag signs to watch out for in regards to online opportunities.

Then you could point people to a web page that has a list of sites that have met the minimum criteria

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th May, 2020 at 3:00pm
So far it looks like another promising month profit:


Quote:
2020-05-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      6.10      Unpaid
2020-05-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      1.52      Unpaid
Total Owing:      $7.62


Any idea what the current membership number is?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2020 at 8:27pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th May, 2020 at 3:00pm:
So far it looks like another promising month profit:


Any idea what the current membership number is?



My last one on the 7th was 5463. So less than 500 away  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th May, 2020 at 1:16am

moneymarketing wrote on 15th May, 2020 at 8:27pm:
My last one on the 7th was 5463. So less than 500 away  :)


Latest one joined today. 5534. Under 400!   8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th May, 2020 at 4:42pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th May, 2020 at 1:16am:
Latest one joined today. 5534. Under 400!   8-)

Nice, we're almost there!

Just today I also noticed that May will have a nice bonus just like March:


Quote:
May 2020      CV-19 Bonus      $100.00      **      Appreciation Bonus      RE: COVID-19


Let's see how it will go.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th May, 2020 at 9:32pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th May, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Nice, we're almost there!

Just today I also noticed that May will have a nice bonus just like March:


Let's see how it will go.. :)



So, apparently I am up to 4 matching bonuses. I gained another one so the multiplier effect is going good. Another thing to watch out for is the early referrals I got when I first came in. Those should be getting close to upgrading soon too. I suspect the $6 matching bonus you got was from me, SS, so if some of my referrals upgrade it will transfer straight to you. That's a nice 'bonus'.  ;D


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd May, 2020 at 1:53am

moneymarketing wrote on 17th May, 2020 at 9:32pm:
So, apparently I am up to 4 matching bonuses. I gained another one so the multiplier effect is going good. Another thing to watch out for is the early referrals I got when I first came in. Those should be getting close to upgrading soon too. I suspect the $6 matching bonus you got was from me, SS, so if some of my referrals upgrade it will transfer straight to you. That's a nice 'bonus'.  ;D

Yeap it is.. :)

And once we hit the 3000+ after us it will get even better!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jun, 2020 at 9:28pm

Quote:
2020-06-01 00:01:04      N/A      Profit Sharing      5.99      


So close!  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jun, 2020 at 11:38pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Jun, 2020 at 9:28pm:
So close!  :money



and about 200 to go!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd Jun, 2020 at 12:15am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Jun, 2020 at 11:38pm:
and about 200 to go!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

[smiley=z05-yes.gif]


Quote:
Total Members End Of May, 2020 = 5718

Almost there, almost there..  [smiley=crazy.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Jun, 2020 at 9:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd Jun, 2020 at 12:15am:
[smiley=z05-yes.gif]

Almost there, almost there..  [smiley=crazy.gif]


Latest referral today 5783

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Jun, 2020 at 5:43pm
5801

Slow month. I think I'll do a blitz to push us over the top

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Jul, 2020 at 10:32am
I've just received this announcement through email:


Quote:
ANNOUNCEMENT:
We have temporarily Increased the prizes in the Top Promoter Contest.

There will now be 20 winners, instead of 10.

And the prizes for 4th through 10th place have been increased From $1 to $2.

Remember that the contest runs Twice per month. That gives you more chances to win.

It makes promoting a bit more appealing so I could probably use ITB credits for that one as well. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Jul, 2020 at 5:11pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Jul, 2020 at 10:32am:
I've just received this announcement through email:

It makes promoting a bit more appealing so I could probably use ITB credits for that one as well. :)


I was about to post that. I hope it gets more people active. Even if the top twenty only got one referral, that's 20 new members per month. Then you have the site and stars picking up the rest. Every step forward counts

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Jul, 2020 at 12:56am
[smiley=z03-lol.gif]

I ran a 500 clicks campaign on Scarlet and it threw me all the way to the 2nd spot on DLF..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Which is kinda interesting on the other hand... their delivery rate seems to be very quick and effective..

I am up to 466 hits on DLF and I was only running scarlet and ITB.. which provided only 20 visitors to my campaign so far..

So, most of those came from Scarlet.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

No new refs though but with a 500 visits campaign I wouldn't expect any on DLF..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Jul, 2020 at 7:53am
They brought back the referral contest!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Jul, 2020 at 11:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Jul, 2020 at 7:53am:
They brought back the referral contest!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

I've decided to give it a go this half-month, so I'm climbing up the contest ladder the past few days. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Jul, 2020 at 6:45am

SolidSnake wrote on 27th Jul, 2020 at 11:34pm:
I've decided to give it a go this half-month, so I'm climbing up the contest ladder the past few days. :)


I saw that. You,rui, and I are all in the top twenty  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Jul, 2020 at 4:22pm
Got to the second spot already.. now only "smartback" left..

Let's see if I can catch-up.. ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 28th Jul, 2020 at 6:27pm

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Jul, 2020 at 6:45am:
I saw that. You,rui, and I are all in the top twenty  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Wait,what?  :o

Was I even promoting it?  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 29th Jul, 2020 at 12:31am
I got a referral with id = 5896 => 30 more positions to the next multiplier!  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 29th Jul, 2020 at 10:46am
And finally we hit the top spot...  8-)

Now let's see how far ahead we can get in order to keep things that way..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 30th Jul, 2020 at 12:01am
Just got a referral with ID:5900 - 26 spots left to level up! [smiley=crazy.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Jul, 2020 at 4:32pm

SolidSnake wrote on 30th Jul, 2020 at 12:01am:
Just got a referral with ID:5900 - 26 spots left to level up! [smiley=crazy.gif]


WOW! 5 upgrades this month! That's going to translate into some cash. What is cool too is that, as people get deeper into seniority, they are more likely to upgrade

This site needs a PIF feature

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Jul, 2020 at 5:17am

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Jul, 2020 at 4:32pm:
This site needs a PIF feature




Quote:
Great idea David.
I will look into it.

Roberto


:cool1

Title: Re: Rotate4All
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Jul, 2020 at 1:14pm
2020-07-31 Contest Standings:

Place Member Points
1 SolidSnake 22,336
2 smartas12 14,336

Looks like he either didn't notice me or it wasn't worth his while spending more to get back to the first spot.

Btw, I think I've gotta get in touch with this guy..

I imagine he would be a valueable addition to our team, besides we all benefit from promoting DL due to the seniority pay bonuses, so we have at least one common goal.. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Jul, 2020 at 1:22pm
Got referral with ID:5939!!!

[smiley=10-band.gif] [smiley=z06-guitar.gif] [smiley=crazy.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


We've barely made it on time for the end of the month! :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2020 at 12:02am
So the $100 cap is on the profit-sharing bonus. That means it is possible to earn more than $100 in a month at the site if you refer new members that upgrade.

Until he gets the PIF going (if that happens), I might shift my focus to spending these earnings on promoting the site.

And things are starting to get active in the Inet marketing again. It's taken years but I have finally recovered from the loss of the CS revenue. Now I can start compounding and get more serious. If I can make/reinvest $600+ per month, that can get some great advertising numbers on the bigger sites and drive referral numbers and income. 8-) [smiley=thumbsup.gif] :money


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Aug, 2020 at 12:00pm
Nice! So, I got the promoting contest and MM got the referral contest.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Plus our seniority multiplier is now x4, with a bunch of upgraded refs things will keep on multiplying.  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2020 at 5:02pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Aug, 2020 at 12:00pm:
Nice! So, I got the promoting contest and MM got the referral contest.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Plus our seniority multiplier is now x4, with a bunch of upgraded refs things will keep on multiplying.  :money



You probably won the referral contest too. My win was from the 15th

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2020 at 5:07pm

Quote:
Profit Sharing      6.46


Almost there.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2020 at 9:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Aug, 2020 at 12:00pm:
Nice! So, I got the promoting contest and MM got the referral contest.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Plus our seniority multiplier is now x4, with a bunch of upgraded refs things will keep on multiplying.  :money


Yep, you got the referral contest also. Congrats, man!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Aug, 2020 at 10:57pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Aug, 2020 at 9:59pm:
Yep, you got the referral contest also. Congrats, man!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

We got a tie?!  [smiley=z03-lol.gif]

And they dropped the prize to $10 (from $15) before splitting it? :-?

Either way even half that prize was unexpected so it's a nice bonus!  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Aug, 2020 at 7:11pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Aug, 2020 at 10:57pm:
We got a tie?!  [smiley=z03-lol.gif]

And they dropped the prize to $10 (from $15) before splitting it? :-?

Either way even half that prize was unexpected so it's a nice bonus!  :money


I think he lowered it to $10 permanently.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Aug, 2020 at 8:49am
My latest:



http://i.imgur.com/dUIZy3H.png

Simple yet sublime.

I get about 1 click in 500 at PV.

I think it works well because the downline isn't clearly spelled out on the home page. They have to click on the compensation page to understand. I've had five signups so I assume those are people who will dig for info and stick once they see that it costs them nothing to join and might be a long term benefit

Feel free to use since it helps the whole team

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Aug, 2020 at 1:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Aug, 2020 at 8:49am:
My latest:



http://i.imgur.com/dUIZy3H.png

Simple yet sublime.

I get about 1 click in 500 at PV.

I think it works well because the downline isn't clearly spelled out on the home page. They have to click on the compensation page to understand. I've had five signups so I assume those are people who will dig for info and stick once they see that it costs them nothing to join and might be a long term benefit

Feel free to use since it helps the whole team

Nice! I like how simplicity works in a weird yet successful way sometimes! :)

Btw, I made another run for the promoter contest, only this time I aimed for the second spot (and I'm already there), since I noticed that it was below 7000 points, which is more or less what we get in a full 24h campaign in R4A that costs just $5.

Smartas made sure to stay above 15000 this time so it's not worth the cost beating him.

It's a quick grab of free advertising, as I will most likely get it all back immediately, while any signups is a bonus.

Also it opens up the probability of also participating in the referral contest though I only got 1 signup so far, so that's unlikely to happen, but who knows.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 15th Aug, 2020 at 7:37pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Aug, 2020 at 8:49am:
My latest:

http://i.imgur.com/dUIZy3H.png

Simple yet sublime.


How about this one:


Contrasting colors do convert well from my experience.
Also, I'd prefer using the word "referrals" over "downline" as it's more popular amongst PTC users.
You can DIY similar banners at https://flamingtext.com/logo/Design-Banner
They require payment for the final product but you can easily fetch it for free via inspect element.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Aug, 2020 at 6:53am

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Aug, 2020 at 1:39pm:
Nice! I like how simplicity works in a weird yet successful way sometimes! :)

Btw, I made another run for the promoter contest, only this time I aimed for the second spot (and I'm already there), since I noticed that it was below 7000 points, which is more or less what we get in a full 24h campaign in R4A that costs just $5.

Smartas made sure to stay above 15000 this time so it's not worth the cost beating him.

It's a quick grab of free advertising, as I will most likely get it all back immediately, while any signups is a bonus.

Also it opens up the probability of also participating in the referral contest though I only got 1 signup so far, so that's unlikely to happen, but who knows.  :)


Good work. The lure of the contest winner board is strong  ;D

In advertising, your job is to get a basic message across to your target market. I laugh sometimes when I open a page and all this fancy flash comes up. Since adblock won't let me downnload it, it is basically useless. I'm not going to voluntarily let you advertise to me and why would I join a site that many customers will block automatically? Bells and whistles only work if they don't distract from you basic message to your target audience

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Aug, 2020 at 7:14am

rotate4all.com wrote on 15th Aug, 2020 at 7:37pm:
How about this one:


Contrasting colors do convert well from my experience.
Also, I'd prefer using the word "referrals" over "downline" as it's more popular amongst PTC users.
You can DIY similar banners at https://flamingtext.com/logo/Design-Banner
They require payment for the final product but you can easily fetch it for free via inspect element.



I use these guys because they are free. No payments

http://www.bannerfans.com/banner_maker.php

The irony of your example was that it was blocked on this board

https://i.imgur.com/5C7i5m0.png

Imgur is picky about what shows where. The BB board coding seems to work here

Regarding the DLF referrals over downline, I think people will go crazy for either but at DLF the team downline is more like a downline IMO. Referrals usually implies personal sign ups that generate a benefit for you whereas that is not what they get for free at DLF. They still get a benefit from the team downline but it is the first level benefit of the team pool. Plus there are added benefits from getting personal referrals which can confuse the issue

It's a tough call. I want to be as accurate as possible without being misleading

Even better is to animate it. That can increase click rates rate by a couple hundred percent

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Aug, 2020 at 2:24pm

Quote:
Winner of the August 1st to 15th, 2020 contest:
Username: moneymarketing (with 8 referrals)

Way to go MM!

Looks like the banner did the trick!

:cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Aug, 2020 at 3:50pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Aug, 2020 at 2:24pm:
Way to go MM!

Looks like the banner did the trick!

:cool1


[smiley=z01-thanx.gif]

Yes, hopefully, I can get a more consistent stream now. I want to raise my focus on the site since the banner seems to work. I might take a big dive and show it at R4A. If that is the case then the site could finally explode

I notice he didn't publish my name in the email. I guess he's getting a little sick of publishing the same name all the time  [smiley=lolx.gif]



Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Aug, 2020 at 5:15pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Aug, 2020 at 3:50pm:
I notice he didn't publish my name in the email. I guess he's getting a little sick of publishing the same name all the time  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Well, I think we should be thankfull that at least he got your username right and not meneymarketing like many times before.. :P

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Aug, 2020 at 6:04pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Aug, 2020 at 5:15pm:
Well, I think we should be thankfull that at least he got your username right and not meneymarketing like many times before.. :P


[smiley=lolx.gif]  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Aug, 2020 at 10:49am
Here's something I noticed...

Don't these two (?) guys look suspiciously similar while having suspiciously similar usernames as well?  :-?


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Aug, 2020 at 5:24pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Aug, 2020 at 10:49am:
Here's something I noticed...

Don't these two (?) guys look suspiciously similar while having suspiciously similar usernames as well?  :-?



Absolutely.

You would think he would focus on one so as to get a higher spot. Maybe he doesn't want to do battle with #1 guy though. And how am I in #3? I'm barely trying though I am using my PTCS credits for the site so that might have something to do with it.

It's funny how people will do that, get on a public list, and then make no effort at all to try and use some creativity regarding hiding their username.

...And maybe a fake nose and glasses...  8-) [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 22nd Aug, 2020 at 6:31pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Aug, 2020 at 5:24pm:
Absolutely.

You would think he would focus on one so as to get a higher spot. Maybe he doesn't want to do battle with #1 guy though. And how am I in #3? I'm barely trying though I am using my PTCS credits for the site so that might have something to do with it.

It's funny how people will do that, get on a public list, and then make no effort at all to try and use some creativity regarding hiding their username.

...And maybe a fake nose and glasses...  8-) [smiley=lolx.gif]

Maybe they're just brothers? Otherwise, why would he risk it posting gravatar pictures on both of them whereas he could have just not posted any pictures at all?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 1:31am
Well.. the potential of having multiple accounts are awesome on this site considering they are both upgraded and the bottom account has enough multipliers.

Then the top account upgrade goes completely free and anything above the upgrade price is pure profit. Not to mention that as the site goes the profit multiplier will be multiplied x2..  :)

But well.. they could also be brothers just like Dan says.. only the admin could figure it out by tracking their activity.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 5:40am

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 1:31am:
Well.. the potential of having multiple accounts are awesome on this site considering they are both upgraded and the bottom account has enough multipliers.

Then the top account upgrade goes completely free and anything above the upgrade price is pure profit. Not to mention that as the site goes the profit multiplier will be multiplied x2..  :)

But well.. they could also be brothers just like Dan says.. only the admin could figure it out by tracking their activity.


Good points. Did you let him know?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:48am

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 5:40am:
Good points. Did you let him know?
Yeap.. and guess what..? :)


Quote:
Thank you for noticing.

We do allow more than one account, as long as you use a
different email and username.

We have a couple of members with two Gold memberships.

It gets you an extra share in the profit sharing pool,
and some extra slots to add your own programs to the downline builder.

Having an extra Free account doesn't have much advantage though,  as
you earn shares for upgraded referrals only.

I'm happy your team is having success.

Bets wishes,
Roberto

Now this could open up new probabilities with the program. :)

We could probably do a double chain with a different order in order for anyone to benefit..!  :idea

If only we knew this from the start..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 4:27pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:48am:
Yeap.. and guess what..? :)

Now this could open up new probabilities with the program. :)

We could probably do a double chain with a different order in order for anyone to benefit..!  :idea

If only we knew this from the start..


Interesting. I guess Macaquinha can enter the scene.  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 6:56pm

SolidSnake wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:48am:
Yeap.. and guess what..? :)

Now this could open up new probabilities with the program. :)

We could probably do a double chain with a different order in order for anyone to benefit..!  :idea

If only we knew this from the start..


I'm up for it. I figure we could go exactly backward of how we do it now. What about Dan though? He hasn't upgraded yet.  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 7:13pm

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 6:56pm:
I'm up for it. I figure we could go exactly backward of how we do it now. What about Dan though? He hasn't upgraded yet.  :-/

And I'm not planning to.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 8:05pm

dansbanners wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 7:13pm:
And I'm not planning to.


So maybe we can make it a rule that we keep the second line out of the DLB and you can only go in the second line if you upgrade the first time

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 9:22pm

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 8:05pm:
So maybe we can make it a rule that we keep the second line out of the DLB and you can only go in the second line if you upgrade the first time

Are you talking about in the X-PTCBox forum? That's kinda rigid don't you think?

Anyway, the reason why I'm not planning to upgrade cause I'm not about "averaging down". That is "be willing to lose money in the process, just so maybe, maybe someday I'll make a profit in it...". If anything, my experience has told me that having such a mindset usually doesn't pan out in net marketing. After a while, it also starts going against the flow...IMHO

I could even go as far as saying that the programs I did the best with were the ones I was usually able to make a profit with right away in the beginning, even as miniscule it may have been at the time. But once I got a taste of it, it generated a good feeling and made me want to earn even more and it usually did. (i.e. with ClixSense, PTCBox, DonkeyMails being good examples...).

And once there was an opportunity to cash out or make a profit, I usually also just did it and didn't do a "But...", etc.    

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 9:57pm
Getting back to the DB, perhaps maybe make a separate DB in the forum? One for free or upgraded members? And one for upgraded members only?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 10:12pm
Getting back to downline farm, don't let me discourage you guys. If you think you have a good chance to succeed or make $ with this program, go for it then!

Perhaps moneymarketing, maybe also cool it a little with trying to get me to upgrade in this program and in others. Just saying it constructively. That's all.  ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 10:46pm

dansbanners wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 9:22pm:
Are you talking about in the X-PTCBox forum? That's kinda rigid don't you think?
  



My point is that if we are going to upgrade twice then we would be losing a big multiplier if you were to join again and not upgrade a second time. For me, I think it would be four shares plus profit sharing if you were under me. That is almost enough to pay a second upgrade right there. So it's not about rigidity, it's about keeping the program profitable for the rest of us too

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 10:50pm

moneymarketing wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 10:46pm:
My point is that if we are going to upgrade twice then we would be losing a big multiplier if you were to join again and not upgrade a second time. For me, I think it would be four shares plus profit sharing if you were under me. That is almost enough to pay a second upgrade right there. So it's not about rigidity, it's about keeping the program profitable for the rest of us too


Or we could just decide to join and upgrade under our own usernames. That would also cascade up into profit sharing

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:19pm
Maybe you could ask the owner if you could switch me and rui's position in your downline? Assuming he has upgraded? Tell them you know me, that I already gave you permission to do so?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:56pm

dansbanners wrote on 23rd Aug, 2020 at 11:19pm:
Maybe you could ask the owner if you could switch me and rui's position in your downline? Assuming he has upgraded? Tell them you know me, that I already gave you permission to do so?


Probably not. I don't think he has that much control over the script. I don't think Rui has upgraded yet anyway.

Your free account is not an issue. I'm glad you're in there because you might upgrade when it is an instant profit for you. I'm just not willing to upgrade a second time without getting some benefit back. I plan on spending money to promote the second link so I'd want to get as close to profit on it as fast as possible

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 24th Aug, 2020 at 1:16pm
I'm thinking of a better way to do it..

Joining on a completely new chain, based on the current last position, we'll still get empty accounts to fill with referrals and their benefit will only apply to their sponsor accounts that will also be the new ones starting from the scratch.

So based on my calculations, one better option (considering we haven't maxed out on 5 gold referrals) is to use our current accounts in order to take advantage from our current seniority multipliers.

From what I see based on my profit matching earnings (my other gold referral quit so my profit matching only includes your shares right now), your current profit share was double of mine and since we are almost at the same spot in the seniority multiplier you probably have 3 or 4 gold referrals below you.

If you're on 4 gold referrals, it would be more beneficial for both of us if I join under your current account and upgrade there. This way it will get your monthly shares to 5 and based on your seniority multiplier your total multiplier will hop to 5 x 3 = 15 instead of 12 that it currently stands at. You'll also benefit directly from my upgrade commission ($0.7) and 1 additional share by profit matching which climb to 2 after 250 more sign ups on the site.

So, as a matter of fact it will get your monthly earnings to 16 shares (X share value) plus profit matching shares from all your other referrals, plus $3.5 from referral upgrade commissions, and I will benefit from 3 more shares in my profit matching bonuses on my original account, plus anything I build up in my second account later on.

Are you on 3 or 4 golden RRs MM?

I think that at the point of hitting the 5 golden referrals milestone on an account it kind of maxes out its potential. More upgraded referrals will not grant more shares anymore so why not get those benefits from promoting a second account instead.

Apart from all these, one thing I think the site really needs is a refresh of its design, especially the sign-up process that is really discouraging on new members. It could vastly help with our downline building only that depends to the admin to decide.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Aug, 2020 at 4:47pm
You could feel free to start another Downline Farms DB in X-PTCBox. Or if you want, you could even delete my post in the current DB?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Aug, 2020 at 8:00pm

SolidSnake wrote on 24th Aug, 2020 at 1:16pm:
I'm thinking of a better way to do it..

Joining on a completely new chain, based on the current last position, we'll still get empty accounts to fill with referrals and their benefit will only apply to their sponsor accounts that will also be the new ones starting from the scratch.

So based on my calculations, one better option (considering we haven't maxed out on 5 gold referrals) is to use our current accounts in order to take advantage from our current seniority multipliers.

From what I see based on my profit matching earnings (my other gold referral quit so my profit matching only includes your shares right now), your current profit share was double of mine and since we are almost at the same spot in the seniority multiplier you probably have 3 or 4 gold referrals below you.

If you're on 4 gold referrals, it would be more beneficial for both of us if I join under your current account and upgrade there. This way it will get your monthly shares to 5 and based on your seniority multiplier your total multiplier will hop to 5 x 3 = 15 instead of 12 that it currently stands at. You'll also benefit directly from my upgrade commission ($0.7) and 1 additional share by profit matching which climb to 2 after 250 more sign ups on the site.

So, as a matter of fact it will get your monthly earnings to 16 shares (X share value) plus profit matching shares from all your other referrals, plus $3.5 from referral upgrade commissions, and I will benefit from 3 more shares in my profit matching bonuses on my original account, plus anything I build up in my second account later on.

Are you on 3 or 4 golden RRs MM?

I think that at the point of hitting the 5 golden referrals milestone on an account it kind of maxes out its potential. More upgraded referrals will not grant more shares anymore so why not get those benefits from promoting a second account instead.



I was thinking of the 5 too. I have 3 upgrades now but that seems to flip to 4 every once in a while so I'm not sure if I have someone on the edge. As the downline grows the 5 will fill organically anyway. It is just a matter of time. So, once you join under me, what then? Do you want me to join under you again and then have the other guys do what they want since they haven't upgraded?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Aug, 2020 at 9:30pm
Would it also help if I delete my account or what? Cause unlike some other programs, this one does have its own delete button that you could do on your own and so forth. 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 25th Aug, 2020 at 12:06am
You've brought up some good points, but doing it that way kinda throws away some team potential and becomes something for only two of you.
I'm partially responsible for not providing dans with a reason for upgrading, since I have 0 golden referrals as well, and it's difficult to justify that monthly cost.
However, both our accounts have a decent seniority and could be valuable. I do agree that having everyone have two accounts in the same line may not be efficient, particularly for me and dans since the new account would have lower seniority and would be harder to pay back two upgrades. However, for you two who have larger downlines and higher probability of reaching that referral benefit cap, it could be interesting to continue from where we left off: me  :P

Moneymarketing should probably be on the bottom, since he's the one who should reach 4 stable gold referrals first and start promoting the second account sooner to start filling up on refs

So in line like this:  Snake -> moneymarketing -> dans -> me -> Snake (2) -> moneymarketing (2)
Once he manages to get at least one or two gold referrals on the second account, he could consider upgrading, which in turn makes an upgrade more desirable for Snake (2), then me, then dans, then back to him again. With this he gets his 5th referral, his extra shares, which then goes into snake's matching bonuses.
Of course, that's if dan is into this. With a guaranteed gold member and a good seniority position the upgrade option which he and I wouldn't normally consider becomes something with more potential.
Of course, we could just build the "skeleton" for now, meaning opening snake's and moneymarketing's free accounts and lock that seniority position right away and see how things evolve. Later we can think about the chained upgrades.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:22am
Where could I see the "Add Your Own Programs - 3 Programs" for upgraded members? On an external affiliate link or something?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:44am

ruicarlov wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 12:06am:
You've brought up some good points, but doing it that way kinda throws away some team potential and becomes something for only two of you.
Well, it wasn't my intention for MM to rejoin under me.. :)

Since it is more directly beneficial to me to re-join under MM and just help his account grow, MM could continue to rejoin under Dan or Rui, since that would increase their profit sharing and (if under Dan) his (MM's) own profit matching earnings.. giving Dan another reason to upgrade that would help MM even more.. If Dan's at no way interested in it, MM could join under Rui and grant those benefits to Rui.


moneymarketing wrote on 24th Aug, 2020 at 8:00pm:
I was thinking of the 5 too. I have 3 upgrades now but that seems to flip to 4 every once in a while so I'm not sure if I have someone on the edge. As the downline grows the 5 will fill organically anyway. It is just a matter of time. So, once you join under me, what then? Do you want me to join under you again and then have the other guys do what they want since they haven't upgraded?
It would be good for me to get you to 5 upgrades as that would be the quickest way to covering your 2 monthly upgrades as possible and my own first at the same time.. :P

5 shares x 4 3 multipler = 20 shares = 20 x ~$0.5 = $10
Profit matching from 5 upgraded referrals = 5 x ~$0.5 = $2.5
5 upgrades = 5 x $0.7 = $3.5

That's a total of $16, so it's almost [already!] covering 2 upgrades so anything built on the lower account plus additional profit matching from upgraded referrals of either account would equal to profit to you. And from now on every 1000 members we get an extra multiplier..

My first account would be on auto pilot just by the first line of your earnings (it already is), so I could either focus on the second one to benefit yours more or push my first one a bit more to cover the second one's upgrade as well.

Of course there's no rush in this, we could always wait for the seniority multipliers to hit another milestone for a smoother ride, so there are no losses at all from day one, just like Dan says.

As for Rui and Dan, since you haven't upgraded there's no loss in just keeping your accounts, while the seniority multipliers grow. It would be easier to decide later on.

Another interesting benefit would be to use the top promoter contests by focusing our campaigns on one or two accounts, so that we beat smartas and get the reward while also boosting them with referrals. The first two spots are worth it then the 9th and 10th places are easy to achieve so we could get those as well with $2 each..

[edit]I've just realized I was all wrong about my calculations as I forgot that we are already on x4 multiplier..  :beatup[/edit]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:45am

ruicarlov wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 12:06am:
Of course, we could just build the "skeleton" for now, meaning opening snake's and moneymarketing's free accounts and lock that seniority position right away and see how things evolve. Later we can think about the chained upgrades.
That's also a really good point.. I love how a team's brainstorming can increase our insight!  :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:58am

dansbanners wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:22am:
Where could I see the "Add Your Own Programs - 3 Programs" for upgraded members? On an external affiliate link or something?


Just click the "Upgrade" tab. It shows all the benefits of gold membership.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:33pm

ruicarlov wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:58am:
Just click the "Upgrade" tab. It shows all the benefits of gold membership.

I'm aware of that. I was wondering where do we see the upgraded member's 3 programs? Externally on an affiliate page? Or only internally to other Downline Farms members?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Aug, 2020 at 3:46pm

SolidSnake wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:44am:
It would be good for me to get you to 5 upgrades as that would be the quickest way to covering your 2 monthly upgrades as possible and my own first at the same time.. :P

5 shares x 3 multipler = 15 shares = 15 x ~$0.5 = $7.5
Profit matching from 5 upgraded referrals = 5 x ~$0.5 = $2.5
5 upgrades = 5 x $0.7 = $3.5

That's a total of $13.5, so it's almost covering 2 upgrades so anything built on the lower account plus additional profit matching from upgraded referrals of either account would equal to profit to you. And from now on every 1000 members we get an extra multiplier


I would only need to place in the top 20 in that case also and it would be profitable. I could do that easily on the top account and then use the second for a banner blitz account that targets referrals. 1000 hits or so wouldn't be a problem in the top account. And I'd only need to do that once per month

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Aug, 2020 at 3:57pm

dansbanners wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 1:33pm:
I'm aware of that. I was wondering where do we see the upgraded member's 3 programs? Externally on an affiliate page? Or only internally to other Downline Farms members?


I see old buddy's banner in the PTC and survey section but I'm not sure who sees it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Aug, 2020 at 4:49pm

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 3:57pm:
I see old buddy's banner in the PTC and survey section but I'm not sure who sees it

In another word, on the PTC and Surveys downline builder page where it says "Enter Your Referral Id's"?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Aug, 2020 at 5:48pm

dansbanners wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 4:49pm:
In another word, on the PTC and Surveys downline builder page where it says "Enter Your Referral Id's"?


At the bottom of the page, there should be a blue button that says "add a program". That is where you add it depending on which section

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Aug, 2020 at 6:55pm

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 5:48pm:
At the bottom of the page, there should be a blue button that says "add a program". That is where you add it depending on which section

That's not quite the same as being able to add your own programs on an affiliate link that could also be shown externally to all of the non members out there.

That's another constructive concern I have of the program. That there may be too much emphasis on just the money making aspect of the program and not enough on the advertising to the point that it could come across as "borderline". If you know what I mean?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Aug, 2020 at 7:37am

dansbanners wrote on 25th Aug, 2020 at 6:55pm:
That's not quite the same as being able to add your own programs on an affiliate link that could also be shown externally to all of the non members out there.

That's another constructive concern I have of the program. That there may be too much emphasis on just the money making aspect of the program and not enough on the advertising to the point that it could come across as "borderline". If you know what I mean?



Practically every program out there is already in the DLB anyway. You are not supposed to add a second link but just enter your affiliate ID so if you are in a dozen programs then that is a dozen ad spots you get in the DLB. And that is for free members. I haven't even used all three of my links that I can recall because I had nothing 'new' to put in there. So I don't think your point is valid

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2020 at 2:44pm

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 7:37am:
ractically every program out there is already in the DLB anyway. You are not supposed to add a second link but just enter your affiliate ID so if you are in a dozen programs then that is a dozen ad spots you get in the DLB. And that is for free members. I haven't even used all three of my links that I can recall because I had nothing 'new' to put in there. So I don't think your point is valid

My point is valid. Cause "while I'm waiting to supposedly make a profit with the program someday", I'd hope to at least benefit from the advertising during the process. But I'm not even sure if I'd be able to do that with this program.

Anyway, what did each upgraded member earn from the last profit sharing pool?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Aug, 2020 at 4:23pm

dansbanners wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 2:44pm:
Anyway, what did each upgraded member earn from the last profit sharing pool?
That's in the Site Navigation -> Statistics page through the menu:

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=Stats

Some months the value goes up a bit, others it drops down but I think it's around ~$0.45 on average.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2020 at 6:31pm

SolidSnake wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 4:23pm:
That's in the Site Navigation -> Statistics page through the menu:

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=Stats

Some months the value goes up a bit, others it drops down but I think it's around ~$0.45 on average.

So, let's use July's $0.40 as an example. And the upgrade is $7.00 a month. Does that mean you guys, moneymarketing and SolidSnake would still be in the red by $6.30 not including the money you won in the contests?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Aug, 2020 at 7:10pm

dansbanners wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 6:31pm:
So, let's use July's $0.40 as an example. And the upgrade is $7.00 a month. Does that mean you guys, moneymarketing and SolidSnake would still be in the red by $6.30 not including the money you won in the contests?


[smiley=sad.gif]

no

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2020 at 8:46pm

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 7:10pm:
[smiley=sad.gif]

no

So, what do you mean by that? If you could perhaps elaborate on that?

Upgraded membership cost = $7.00

July's profit sharing = $0.40

Any other earnings not including the contests?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 26th Aug, 2020 at 9:05pm
The share value is usually between $0,40 and $0,50. That's multiplied by the number of shares you have, plus the matching bonses and the upgrade comissions. You might want to take another read at this: https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2020 at 9:09pm

ruicarlov wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 9:05pm:
The share value is usually between $0,40 and $0,50. That's multiplied by the number of shares you have, plus the matching bonses and the upgrade comissions. You might want to take another read at this: https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=payplan

Ok, that was helpful. Thanks rui.

Ok, then moneymarketing and SolidSnake, what are your current stats? Thanks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 26th Aug, 2020 at 9:45pm

dansbanners wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 6:31pm:
So, let's use July's $0.40 as an example. And the upgrade is $7.00 a month. Does that mean you guys, moneymarketing and SolidSnake would still be in the red by $6.30 not including the money you won in the contests?

2020-07-01 00:01:04      N/A      Profit Sharing      2.71      Paid
2020-07-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      5.43      Paid
2020-07-26 09:16:25      MM      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Paid

Here are my stats for July, I stand at $8.84, the share profit is added at the 1st of each month so the share profit value at that time is closer to the previous month's ending day. So I guess, July's profit share was based on the end of June's share value that was ~$0.45.

My August's stats go like this:
2020-08-01 00:01:04      N/A      Profit Sharing      3.23      Paid
2020-08-01 00:03:04      N/A      Top Promoter Winner      10.00      Paid
2020-08-01 12:03:18      N/A      Referral Contest      5.00      Paid
2020-08-15 00:01:03      N/A      Matching Bonus      6.46      Unpaid
2020-08-16 00:03:06      N/A      Top Promoter Winner      5.00      Unpaid
2020-08-26 07:44:00      MM      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid

So, if we keep out the contests' earnings I currently stand at $10.39 for August.
Not sure why the value of the profit sharing was based on the value of ~$0.54 though.. ..somehow I got profit for 8 shares.

If the value was $0.40 I would get $3.2 from my profit sharing, $6.4 from matching bonus and $0.7 from MM's upgrade. That's $7.9 $10.3.

Now if MM had only 1 golden referral I would get $3.2 from my profit sharing, another $3.2 from matching bonus and $0.7 from MM's upgrade. That's $5.5 and yes I would be in a loss.

However even at that value, once we get to the next multiplier that's x4 I would get $3.2 from my profit sharing, another $3.2 from matching bonus and $0.7 from MM's upgrade.
That's $7.1 and it will be pretty hard to be in a loss after that this point based on the site's history.

[edit]Hmm.. wait a minute.. I got profit sharing for 8 shares at the value of $0.403553..  :o
Could the admin have made a mistake?
UPDATE 2020-09-01: I'm a fool.. I forgot we are already at the x4 multiplier...  [smiley=sad.gif]
I've corrected all calculations..[/edit]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2020 at 10:22pm
Even if moneymarketing and SolidSnake were to have good stats. I'm having difficulty getting past the nagging feeling that I won't benefit enough from the program in an advertising sense.

Perhaps, maybe this concern ought to be relayed to the owner? There could also be other members out there with similar feelings. You also seem to have a good rapport with the owner?

I mean they already have 12 splash pages. How hard would it be for them to come up with a splash page, promoting Downline Farms, obviously, but also giving the members the ability to add their own banners, either 1 or 3, depending on whether or not they're free or upgraded members. After all, we've seen some other programs do it? Something like the following (i.e. not that I'm promoting this program in particular):

https://www.8hits.com/ap.php?ref=dansbanners

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Aug, 2020 at 11:08pm

dansbanners wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 10:22pm:
Even if moneymarketing and SolidSnake were to have good stats. I'm having difficulty getting past the nagging feeling that I won't benefit enough from the program in an advertising sense.

Perhaps, maybe this concern ought to be relayed to the owner? There could also be other members out there with similar feelings. You also seem to have a good rapport with the owner?

I mean they already have 12 splash pages. How hard would it be for them to come up with a splash page, promoting Downline Farms, obviously, but also giving the members the ability to add their own banners, either 1 or 3, depending on whether or not they're free or upgraded members. After all, we've seen some other programs do it? Something like the following (i.e. not that I'm promoting this program in particular):

https://www.8hits.com/ap.php?ref=dansbanners



so you're saying that even if you were to be in instant profit in the future if you did upgrade, there is no point to upgrading?  :o

that makes no sense  :-?

And SS's stats show why it is so important for the whole chain to upgrade down the road at least. It may not mean anything to you but it could be worth three or more shares to your upline which could mean the difference between profit and loss

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 26th Aug, 2020 at 11:41pm
Once we get to the x4 multiplier on our 1st accounts this becomes quite interesting. Since with me upgraded, I get 8 shares even with just clone Snake in my downline, and so would you, since you'd have a gold referral in me, with the matching bonus for my 8 shares as well.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 12:08am

ruicarlov wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 11:41pm:
Once we get to the x4 multiplier on our 1st accounts this becomes quite interesting. Since with me upgraded, I get 8 shares even with just clone Snake in my downline, and so would you, since you'd have a gold referral in me, with the matching bonus for my 8 shares as well.


Which is also why we should at least get these second joins sorted ASAP

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 27th Aug, 2020 at 1:03am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Aug, 2020 at 11:08pm:
so you're saying that even if you were to be in instant profit in the future if you did upgrade, there is no point to upgrading?  :o

that makes no sense  :-?

And SS's stats show why it is so important for the whole chain to upgrade down the road at least. It may not mean anything to you but it could be worth three or more shares to your upline which could mean the difference between profit and loss

Not necessarily. Just that it would also help if they also try to improve the advertising aspect of the program. What's wrong with also looking into the possibility of asking the owner if he could come up with an external splash page whereas the member could also add their own banner(s) onto it?

My concern about the advertising aspect of the program even made me be reluctant to upgrade after I joined last year.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 27th Aug, 2020 at 4:37am
If I understand correctly, the only way to contact the owner is to send him an e-mail? No forum, helpdesk nor contact form?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 27th Aug, 2020 at 1:30pm
Also, are you aware of their Shop DLF page?

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=Shop

I'd feel funny to endorse such products. How are we to know if they're safe? FDA approved? Why couldn't he simply just sell some DLF t-shirts? E-books? Or products that has truly to do with net marketing?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 27th Aug, 2020 at 5:23pm

dansbanners wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 1:30pm:
Also, are you aware of their Shop DLF page?

https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=Shop

I'd feel funny to endorse such products. How are we to know if they're safe? FDA approved? Why couldn't he simply just sell some DLF t-shirts? E-books? Or products that has truly to do with net marketing?


From what I read, dietary supplments industry can be checked by FDA for safety, but not efficacy, since they are not drugs. From what I've seen on the Life Extension Supplements Website, they have been inspected by FDA several times and they did not find cases on non-compliance. They also have been recognized as cGMP (current Good Manufacturing Practices) compliant. So they seem legit.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 27th Aug, 2020 at 6:22pm

ruicarlov wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 5:23pm:
From what I read, dietary supplments industry can be checked by FDA for safety, but not efficacy, since they are not drugs. From what I've seen on the Life Extension Supplements Website, they have been inspected by FDA several times and they did not find cases on non-compliance. They also have been recognized as cGMP (current Good Manufacturing Practices) compliant. So they seem legit.

That's good to know.

Anyone here making a good use of their Ezbiz.co membership? Whereas DLF upgraded members were supposedly awarded with the Founding Member status in the program?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 9:50pm
So Dan,

Your ID number is 3280. My last referral ID# was 6041. I'm not saying you will but if you did upgrade today, then you would already have 3 shares. If Rui also upgraded, he would have three and you would bump up to six. If I upgraded under him he would also bump up to six

SS, I'm going to join under Rui if you are not going to move soon.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 27th Aug, 2020 at 10:12pm

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 9:50pm:
So Dan,
SS, I'm going to join under Rui if you are not going to move soon.

That's okay. You or SS could join under Rui.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Aug, 2020 at 10:27pm

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 9:50pm:
So Dan,

Your ID number is 3280. My last referral ID# was 6041. I'm not saying you will but if you did upgrade today, then you would already have 3 shares. If Rui also upgraded, he would have three and you would bump up to six. If I upgraded under him he would also bump up to six

SS, I'm going to join under Rui if you are not going to move soon.

I think it's better if you join under Rui, there's more direct potential in having you as his referral than having me.

Then I could figure out the most beneficial way to act for you. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 10:44pm

SolidSnake wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 10:27pm:
I think it's better if you join under Rui, there's more direct potential in having you as his referral than having me.

Then I could figure out the most beneficial way to act for you. :)


I'll do that now

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:03pm
>:(

This is ridiculous. The reg form has a six-digit security code but only allows three digits to be typed in the field. How many people have quit in frustration when running into that?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:11pm

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:03pm:
>:(

This is ridiculous. The reg form has a six-digit security code but only allows three digits to be typed in the field. How many people have quit in frustration when running into that?

It says "(enter the 3 characters)" which is still misleading..

I think they mean the 3 red characters.. but still having to guess is really bad..

Let us know once you figure it out. Then we can ask him to simply update the label.. it shouldn't be hard as it's just text.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:20pm

SolidSnake wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:11pm:
It says "(enter the 3 characters)" which is still misleading..

I think they mean the 3 red characters.. but still having to guess is really bad..

Let us know once you figure it out. Then we can ask him to simply update the label.. it shouldn't be hard as it's just text.


I sent him a mail

It's the three black characters  ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:27pm
I should be in your downline Rui as #6053

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 28th Aug, 2020 at 1:00am

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Aug, 2020 at 11:20pm:
I sent him a mail

It's the three black characters  ::)


#blackcharactersmatter  ::)

Keeping with the times I see.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Aug, 2020 at 7:11am

ruicarlov wrote on 28th Aug, 2020 at 1:00am:
#blackcharactersmatter  ::)

Keeping with the times I see.


[smiley=lolx.gif]

That same thought crossed my mind.

We are brainwashed already  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 30th Aug, 2020 at 2:06pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Aug, 2020 at 8:49am:
My latest:



http://i.imgur.com/dUIZy3H.png

Simple yet sublime.

I get about 1 click in 500 at PV.

I think it works well because the downline isn't clearly spelled out on the home page. They have to click on the compensation page to understand. I've had five signups so I assume those are people who will dig for info and stick once they see that it costs them nothing to join and might be a long term benefit

Feel free to use since it helps the whole team

I noticed I have about 10 login ads standing there in my YGP advertising credits so I'll put that banner to use for a few days.

Let's see if it will get any clicks. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Aug, 2020 at 6:51pm

SolidSnake wrote on 30th Aug, 2020 at 2:06pm:
I noticed I have about 10 login ads standing there in my YGP advertising credits so I'll put that banner to use for a few days.

Let's see if it will get any clicks. :)


Yes, let's hope

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 31st Aug, 2020 at 7:47pm

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Aug, 2020 at 6:51pm:
Yes, let's hope

So, I got 561 views / 1 click.

I've barely had clicks from login ads before so it's progress! :)

I'll give it another day now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Aug, 2020 at 9:58pm

SolidSnake wrote on 31st Aug, 2020 at 7:47pm:
So, I got 561 views / 1 click.

I've barely had clicks from login ads before so it's progress! :)

I'll give it another day now.


Yes, login ads, especially YGP login ads are not very effective. I see the ~ 1 in 500 click ratio is holding up though

I've started promoting my second affiliate page. PTCS is giving a 35% BAP bonus on purchases so I put the new page in. I probably won't quite get on the promoter list today

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Sep, 2020 at 12:12pm
Have a nice month everyone!

Today, I've got to realize that once again I made a big mistake at my recent DLF calculations..

My seniority multiplier is x4 already and not x3.. so I got back to and corrected these two posts (post and post).

And it's more clear now how to calculate the profit sharing value. As we can see in the stats page:


Quote:
Total Members End Of August, 2020 = 6061
Value of each share for August, 2020 = $0.356635


Based on that value my 1st of September stats indicate that the profit sharing of each month is based exactly on the end of the previous one's share value.

So, the profit share I got today is $2.85 which is correct based on my current state:
2 (shares) x 4 (multiplier) x  $0.356635 (share value of August 31st) = $2.85308 (rounded to $2.85)

The profit matching I expect to receive in September 15th is $5.70616 (rounded to $5.71 or maybe $5.70).

So with MM's upgrade commission of $0.7 the total return is:
$2.85 + $5.70 + $0.7 = $9.25 with a profit of $2.25.

And the boiling point of the profit is $0.30 (as long as the share value is at least $0.30 the month will be profitable).

Also congrats @MM for hitting the second spot in the top promoters list and also wining the referral contest as well (they granted "Special One-Time Prizes: $10 to each of the top 3 places")!

I didn't want to go for it since you were there, so I settled down on the 10th position (last position wining $2), while trading a few blows with the 11th and 12th guy just to keep it.

Btw, I got referral 6062 today, so I got the first referral of September..  :cool1
Looks like we entered September with a head start!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Sep, 2020 at 5:17pm
It was a good month. $25 in contest bonuses alone. I'll take that.  :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Rui, I'm probably going to upgrade soon on the second referral ID just as a sort of give back to the site. I'm not sure it will put you in profit but I'm giving you a heads up anyway

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 1st Sep, 2020 at 7:14pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Sep, 2020 at 5:17pm:
It was a good month. $25 in contest bonuses alone. I'll take that.  :money [smiley=12-party.gif]

Rui, I'm probably going to upgrade soon on the second referral ID just as a sort of give back to the site. I'm not sure it will put you in profit but I'm giving you a heads up anyway


Thanks for the heads up. I'll upgrade so I can take better advantage of that.
What about you, dans?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Sep, 2020 at 7:34pm

ruicarlov wrote on 1st Sep, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Thanks for the heads up. I'll upgrade so I can take better advantage of that.
What about you, dans?

You can upgrade at your own pace. If needed, do not wait for me. Thanks for asking though.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Sep, 2020 at 8:44am

ruicarlov wrote on 1st Sep, 2020 at 7:14pm:
Thanks for the heads up. I'll upgrade so I can take better advantage of that.
What about you, dans?



How is this progressing?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:06pm
It took a while but I finally got my first referral under my new account. My username is newsong, BTW. You can see me and myself on the leaderboard  ;D [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:44pm
I'm going to give the new banner a 7 day run at R4A to see how it performs

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:55pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Sep, 2020 at 8:44am:
How is this progressing?


Something funny is happening. Everytime I try to upgrade with Paypal, it shows only credit cards to make the payment. I have quite some USD in my account, so I wanted to avoid credit card fees on foregin currency, but I can't seem to use my balance  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Sep, 2020 at 10:51am

ruicarlov wrote on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:55pm:
Something funny is happening. Everytime I try to upgrade with Paypal, it shows only credit cards to make the payment. I have quite some USD in my account, so I wanted to avoid credit card fees on foregin currency, but I can't seem to use my balance  :-?


Yes, that is odd. I wonder if it is at paypal's end or at DLF's end?

This could also be a sign that Paypal has taken notice of the program and is starting the process of getting difficult

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 7th Sep, 2020 at 11:52am

ruicarlov wrote on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:55pm:
Something funny is happening. Everytime I try to upgrade with Paypal, it shows only credit cards to make the payment. I have quite some USD in my account, so I wanted to avoid credit card fees on foregin currency, but I can't seem to use my balance  :-?
That is weird...

I have always used PayPal balance every time. In fact, since it's a recurring payment it automatically uses the balance money (that I have also received from them). It's how it works on auto pilot for me.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Sep, 2020 at 2:30pm

SolidSnake wrote on 7th Sep, 2020 at 11:52am:
That is weird...

I have always used PayPal balance every time. In fact, since it's a recurring payment it automatically uses the balance money (that I have also received from them). It's how it works on auto pilot for me.



Same here. I think once it is set up then there isn't a problem.

And if you ask PP about it, they might start sniffing around...  [smiley=sad.gif]

I guess the only thing he can do is ask the admin.

I sure hope the admin has a backup plan if PP shuts him down

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Sep, 2020 at 4:40pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:44pm:
I'm going to give the new banner a 7 day run at R4A to see how it performs


Interesting. Though the banner has gained quite a few clicks, it seems very few have followed through once they clicked. Only two, so far. So it looks like, under big league conditions, this banner is a fail. It's back to the drawing board, then.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Sep, 2020 at 6:00pm

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Sep, 2020 at 4:40pm:
Interesting. Though the banner has gained quite a few clicks, it seems very few have followed through once they clicked. Only two, so far. So it looks like, under big league conditions, this banner is a fail. It's back to the drawing board, then.

Was it obvious that it was a Downline Farm banner? Cause sometime the user would click on the eye catching banner, not knowing what program it was only for them to realize afterwards that they had already been aware of the program. That has happened to me sometime.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Sep, 2020 at 6:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Sep, 2020 at 4:40pm:
Interesting. Though the banner has gained quite a few clicks, it seems very few have followed through once they clicked. Only two, so far. So it looks like, under big league conditions, this banner is a fail. It's back to the drawing board, then.



I think I have 'made' more money by testing and not spending what I have on fruitless campaigns than I have by spending and earning online from profitable ones.  [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Sep, 2020 at 6:38pm

dansbanners wrote on 8th Sep, 2020 at 6:00pm:
Was it obvious that it was a Downline Farm banner? Cause sometime the user would click on the eye catching banner, not knowing what program it was only for them to realize afterwards that they had already been aware of the program. That has happened to me sometime.


No, it was the new banner I posted earlier in the thread. Yes, there is a risk of that but the banner was pointing out a feature that maybe many didn't get without digging deeper into the program. On a smaller scale, the banner was doing pretty good which is why I took it to the next level of testing which was the 7-day banner ad on R4A(7 days because some days may get better results than others eg. weekdays/weekends).

At the new level, it is not performing as I expect. I know it is not the ad venue because my paidverts banner performs excellently there so I guess it is the banner and what people see on the other side.

I'm beginning to think maybe the downline builders 'fad' has passed and that is why many don't even bother to research because they are not thinking this one has a unique compensation plan. Anyway, we'll keep trying and hope the team can continue to build our referrals for us even if we can't.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Sep, 2020 at 3:43pm
Wait...stop the presses! It looks like the death of that banner was a little premature.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Maybe it just took a while for people to become accustomed to it or maybe it had to do with back to school/labor day holiday but the banner has started to draw in some people. If it is enough to win the contest, then it will pay for itself so maybe this becomes a profitable effort. The question now is how deep in the site did these people go and will that produce upgrades and a longer-term commitment from them?

That's one thing about marketing. It is highly scientific with some human variables mixed in. ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Sep, 2020 at 10:37pm
Sometime just accept the success when it comes as it is. No need to over analyze it. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 11th Sep, 2020 at 10:49pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Sep, 2020 at 3:43pm:
Wait...stop the presses! It looks like the death of that banner was a little premature.  [smiley=lolx.gif]


Like Mark Twain supposedly said: "The report of my death was an exaggeration"

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Sep, 2020 at 6:44am

ruicarlov wrote on 11th Sep, 2020 at 10:49pm:
Like Mark Twain supposedly said: "The report of my death was an exaggeration"


That was the inspiration  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Sep, 2020 at 2:45pm
I'm giving the top promoter contest a last minute snipe shot with a few campaigns using stock funds and credits plus a 1 day rotator ad on R4A that would be covered even by position #2 and will maybe also set me up for the next 15 days contest.

I've already got a new referral with ID:6110 so that's where we stand as of right now. :)

Let's see how it will go.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Sep, 2020 at 4:34pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Sep, 2020 at 2:45pm:
I'm giving the top promoter contest a last minute snipe shot with a few campaigns using stock funds and credits plus a 1 day rotator ad on R4A that would be covered even by position #2 and will maybe also set me up for the next 15 days contest.

I've already got a new referral with ID:6110 so that's where we stand as of right now. :)

Let's see how it will go.


This is why it is important just to grab a spot. I'm at 6053 so already there are 50 people under me.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Sep, 2020 at 12:39pm
Looks like I needed a few more hours to get to the first spot..  :beatup

Never mind, I got 3rd so at least got something back for it.
Next time I'll try to be more on time to run the campaign.

A bad thing is that I was rejected a bunch of thousands of hits I led to them..
The actual hits the programs I ran for it reported, were the following:

~8000 hits from R4A
~2000 hits from PTCS
~300 from Paidverts
~700 from YGP

and I had about ~1000 hits already registered in DLF before the campaigns, so from all of those only ~5000 were actually accepted which is less than 50%.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Sep, 2020 at 5:55pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th Sep, 2020 at 12:39pm:
Looks like I needed a few more hours to get to the first spot..  :beatup

Never mind, I got 3rd so at least got something back for it.
Next time I'll try to be more on time to run the campaign.

A bad thing is that I was rejected a bunch of thousands of hits I led to them..
The actual hits the programs I ran for it reported, were the following:

~8000 hits from R4A
~2000 hits from PTCS
~300 from Paidverts
~700 from YGP

and I had about ~1000 hits already registered in DLF before the campaigns, so from all of those only ~5000 were actually accepted which is less than 50%.  :dontknow


50% is about the rate I expect. I haven't found a way to get it much higher be that longer hits or forced views.  :dontknow :-/

Maybe we can focus on figuring that out in the future.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 16th Sep, 2020 at 8:26pm
Depends on the detection mechanism, however it will NEVER be anywhere close to 100%. You can get maybe get up to 80% but in the end it's the client (visitor) who's got the last word on allowing to be tracked or not.
The reason for the discrepancy is that many users are using privacy-oriented browsers where scripts/cookies are being actively blocked which makes a proper tracking all that harder to achieve.

But the real culprit here (after looking into this more closely) is that Downlinefarm did not implement the "Samesite" attribute on their cookies, which means that in a 3rd party context (such as promoting in iFrames which are used in PTCs, TEs and similar) all of their cookies get BLOCKED in the latest modern browsers which most people use these days. Which in turn means, no tracking and most importantly, no referrals! So you might be missing out on some referrals as well.

Just some insight on the matter, so now you know who to blame.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Sep, 2020 at 9:15pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 16th Sep, 2020 at 8:26pm:
Depends on the detection mechanism, however it will NEVER be anywhere close to 100%. You can get maybe get up to 80% but in the end it's the client (visitor) who's got the last word on allowing to be tracked or not.
The reason for the discrepancy is that many users are using privacy-oriented browsers where scripts/cookies are being actively blocked which makes a proper tracking all that harder to achieve.

But the real culprit here (after looking into this more closely) is that Downlinefarm did not implement the "Samesite" attribute on their cookies, which means that in a 3rd party context (such as promoting in iFrames which are used in PTCs, TEs and similar) all of their cookies get BLOCKED in the latest modern browsers which most people use these days. Which in turn means, no tracking and most importantly, no referrals! So you might be missing out on some referrals as well.

Just some insight on the matter, so now you know who to blame.


I've talked to him about some of this stuff. Unfortunately, he is using a fixed script so he can change a lot of it. Maybe when his income goes up a bit he can get a custom script going.

And even if we do lose referrals, I do believe they get passed out randomly to upgraded members so we get some of them back. And it goes to the single downline so it is not a huge loss (just referral contest losses which aren't hard to overcome).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 17th Sep, 2020 at 7:15am
Setting or modifying any type of cookie attribute can be easily done globally at the server-config level. No need to modify the script at all.
For example on Apache (which he's also using btw) it's as simple as adding the following lines in the config:

Code (c++):
<IfModule mod_headers.c>
     Header always edit Set-Cookie (.*) "$1; SameSite=None"
</IfModule>

This will work for cookies set server-side (which is the normal and secure way to do it) and won't work for cookies set through Javascript (which is highly insecure and should not be used anyway).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Sep, 2020 at 8:00pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 17th Sep, 2020 at 7:15am:
Setting or modifying any type of cookie attribute can be easily done globally at the server-config level. No need to modify the script at all.
For example on Apache (which he's also using btw) it's as simple as adding the following lines in the config:

Code (c++):
<IfModule mod_headers.c>
     Header always edit Set-Cookie (.*) "$1; SameSite=None"
</IfModule>

This will work for cookies set server-side (which is the normal and secure way to do it) and won't work for cookies set through Javascript (which is highly insecure and should not be used anyway).


If you want to email him with this information, it would be appreciated. I've tried to explain these kinds of things but due to my lack of knowledge I don't get the best reception. He also might be able to explain why this might not be possible from his side and you never know, maybe something positive could happen between the two of you from a business perspective.

It's up to you though and don't feel you need to do it (but I'll try the cheesy eyes to motivate you anyway).  :D

;D



support@downlinefarm.com

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 17th Sep, 2020 at 8:35pm
Sorry but I don't believe in such programs. Even though I've signed up, I do not participate in it in any way, especially after seeing they heavily promote AIOP. I've been suckered into AIOP a while back and never got anything from it.

AIOP's script is coded in the same manner: heavily out-dated and lacking basic updates with serious sign-up bugs preventing users from signing up through iFrames, thus wasting your credits on PTCs & TEs. Even though I've notified them of their ongoing issues (at the time when I was actively promoting AIOP) they did NOTHING to solve the issues, saying that there aren't any issues and that I should try their splash pages instead which of course all lead to the same registration page ridden with bugs.

Actually this detective work is just a habit of mine when I'm bored I check the sites I regularly use and report any bugs I find. But if owners do not fix the bugs, it takes the fun in searching for more away.
In this case I made an exception from the said rule and thought I'd check it out anyway as you guys are actively promoting this program.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Sep, 2020 at 9:27pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 17th Sep, 2020 at 8:35pm:
Sorry but I don't believe in such programs. Even though I've signed up, I do not participate in it in any way, especially after seeing they heavily promote AIOP. I've been suckered into AIOP a while back and never got anything from it.

AIOP's script is coded in the same manner: heavily out-dated and lacking basic updates with serious sign-up bugs preventing users from signing up through iFrames, thus wasting your credits on PTCs & TEs. Even though I've notified them of their ongoing issues (at the time when I was actively promoting AIOP) they did NOTHING to solve the issues, saying that there aren't any issues and that I should try their splash pages instead which of course all lead to the same registration page ridden with bugs.

Actually this detective work is just a habit of mine when I'm bored I check the sites I regularly use and report any bugs I find. But if owners do not fix the bugs, it takes the fun in searching for more away.
In this case I made an exception from the said rule and thought I'd check it out anyway as you guys are actively promoting this program.


This is probably why AIOP is not a very popular program in the industry. It's around but it is not everywhere like yours is.

People have an innate sense about these things. I don't understand why PO's don't pick up on that. Experienced marketers know when a program is giving them 'enough' to make a profit and when they see one that is just a money-sucking machine they drop it pretty quick.

All it takes is one or two sites to treat marketers right and we then have a control site by which all others can be measured


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Sep, 2020 at 2:21pm

ruicarlov wrote on 6th Sep, 2020 at 11:55pm:
Something funny is happening. Everytime I try to upgrade with Paypal, it shows only credit cards to make the payment. I have quite some USD in my account, so I wanted to avoid credit card fees on foregin currency, but I can't seem to use my balance  :-?


Okay, so that whole credit card thing was only the backup payment method. It does use the balance first, and only if it's not enough does it go to the CC. Wouldn't kill them to explain things a bit better in the payment page.....

Anyway, I upgraded now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Sep, 2020 at 4:14pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Sep, 2020 at 2:21pm:
Okay, so that whole credit card thing was only the backup payment method. It does use the balance first, and only if it's not enough does it go to the CC. Wouldn't kill them to explain things a bit better in the payment page.....

Anyway, I upgraded now.


OK, so you are ready to go? Did you get a commission from that, Dan? You should have at least 70 cents.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Sep, 2020 at 8:48pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Sep, 2020 at 2:21pm:
Okay, so that whole credit card thing was only the backup payment method. It does use the balance first, and only if it's not enough does it go to the CC. Wouldn't kill them to explain things a bit better in the payment page.....

Anyway, I upgraded now.


I upgraded Rui, so you should see some commissions there.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Sep, 2020 at 10:32pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Sep, 2020 at 8:48pm:
I upgraded Rui, so you should see some commissions there.


[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Sep, 2020 at 1:40am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Sep, 2020 at 4:14pm:
Did you get a commission from that, Dan? You should have at least 70 cents.  :)

I got the commission. Thanks Rui! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Sep, 2020 at 3:13am
Question about "Top Promoter Contest". What if you don't finish in the top 20, are the points any good?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Sep, 2020 at 7:52am

dansbanners wrote on 19th Sep, 2020 at 3:13am:
Question about "Top Promoter Contest". What if you don't finish in the top 20, are the points any good?


No. They are only valid towards the contest but it is pretty easy to make the top twenty and earn a couple of bucks per month on it.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 19th Sep, 2020 at 12:49pm
Weird thing. In the email I got about moneymarketing upgrding, it showed a different name than what's in my downline list :o

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Sep, 2020 at 10:39pm

ruicarlov wrote on 19th Sep, 2020 at 12:49pm:
Weird thing. In the email I got about moneymarketing upgrding, it showed a different name than what's in my downline list :o


I should be newsong with a different email and alpha marketing

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 20th Sep, 2020 at 12:55pm
Yes, that was it. I was just expecting Alpha Marketing, so that newsong kind threw me for a loop.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Sep, 2020 at 6:05pm

ruicarlov wrote on 20th Sep, 2020 at 12:55pm:
Yes, that was it. I was just expecting Alpha Marketing, so that newsong kind threw me for a loop.


Yes, their details can be a bit strange. I've seen all sorts of weird names on the commissions list

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Sep, 2020 at 3:26am
I was able to get a monitor listing for DLF at MTV. Here is the forum post:

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/monitor/downline_farm/1.html

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 21st Sep, 2020 at 11:55am

moneymarketing wrote on 21st Sep, 2020 at 3:26am:
I was able to get a monitor listing for DLF at MTV. Here is the forum post:

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/monitor/downline_farm/1.html

Voted positive for it... with what was in my balance.. not much but I guess it will count.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Sep, 2020 at 3:34pm

SolidSnake wrote on 21st Sep, 2020 at 11:55am:
Voted positive for it... with what was in my balance.. not much but I guess it will count.  ;D


The important part is that it is now there for as long as the site lasts. It's basically permanent advertising for $5.50. Only a few need to join for there to be payback. I think I'll post the member base growth each month and share value. Maybe that will convince a few people and it will keep the topic top of mind in the forum.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Oct, 2020 at 7:38am
This is on my original account:


Quote:
2020-10-01 00:01:04      N/A      Profit Sharing      6.06      Unpaid
2020-10-01 00:03:10      N/A      Top Promoter Winner      1.00      Unpaid


So with minimal promotion (less than the free advertising I generate at PTCS), I'm at breakeven.  :money [smiley=12-party.gif] :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Oct, 2020 at 7:57pm
Not bad

Commissions:

Position one $15.63
Position two $23.88

Total Paid    $39.51
upgrades: 2 $14

Net: $25.51

This doesn't include advertising costs to earn contest bonuses. Most advertising was free or paid with previous DLF earnings so this is compounding nicely.  :)


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Oct, 2020 at 2:31am
latest referral # 6208 up from 6155 at the end of September. Not bad for 11 days

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Oct, 2020 at 7:04pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Oct, 2020 at 2:31am:
latest referral # 6208 up from 6155 at the end of September. Not bad for 11 days


With 18 referrals in 15 days, I won the referral contest.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

This was on the back of my latest banner test. The banner works but I'm also stepping up my referring game. This, R4A, and paidverts are my three big referring stars right now and they work as a team, or rather, the front line of a hockey team with PV centering the other two  ;D

As I continue to earn from each, I'm going to start pumping it into DLF.

Some might argue this is not the way to get people in but I argue our job is to get them into the lineup and then 'upsell' them. The DLF admin does a pretty good job of nagging them into an upgrade. That is helpful also.

So here is the banner. The 18 referrals were from 3389 official hits in the referral contest so that is a phenomenal ratio. Even if you double the number of clicks to the site, that is still a fantastic signup to click ratio. It shows many are already convinced by the time they click on the banner which I always argue should serve as your first filter in your sales chain.


I can't remember how many banner impressions I pushed towards those clicks but it was a lot. This banner shows that if you show it enough, it works. And YES, you can use it since we all benefit




[edit]By SolidSnake: Fixed the banner by reuploading it to imgbb.com[/edit]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Oct, 2020 at 2:03am

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Oct, 2020 at 7:04pm:
With 18 referrals in 15 days, I won the referral contest.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Congrats on winning the referral contest!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 17th Oct, 2020 at 2:18pm
I noticed I got $0.38 matching bonus. What profit sharing did you have, alpha?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Oct, 2020 at 10:16pm
SS!

When I tried to upload my imgur banner as the script version, the site locked me out I think at the isp level. I am on a different isp and on my phone. None of my computer browsers can get in. I sent a mail to your paidverts yahoo mail address to explain what happened. Would it be possible for you to unblock that isp or is it from my side that is the problem?

[smiley=01-needhelp.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Oct, 2020 at 10:21pm

ruicarlov wrote on 17th Oct, 2020 at 2:18pm:
I noticed I got $0.38 matching bonus. What profit sharing did you have, alpha?


Yes, I have one share that got 38 cents so that is accurate. You don’t get profit sharing on contest wins. The last referral # I got was 6235 so I am near the first multiplier (about 100 away)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Oct, 2020 at 10:57pm
I also got a matching bonus of $0.23 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Oct, 2020 at 7:33am

dansbanners wrote on 17th Oct, 2020 at 10:57pm:
I also got a matching bonus of $0.23 8-)


As a free member, your matching bonus should be 10%. Are you promoting and have referrals? That matching bonus means your downline has 6 shares. I assume that is Rui. So if you upgraded today, you would get a 100% matching bonus which would be worth $2.30 to you plus a commission from Rui of at least 70 cents, so you would already be halfway to a paid-for upgrade. Depending on how many shares you have, due to your seniority, you would be even closer. This is why I was saying that it was important just to get in line. Especially with our team and how we help each other.

I was checking my first position downline today and I have four upgrades. That equals 70 cents times four for commissions which = $2.80.

Then you add in matching bonuses. Three of my referrals have three shares each. That bonus is $1.14 each. One, which I assume is Sebas, has 8 shares for a total of $3.03.

So with only four upgraded referrals and a bit of time under the seniority system, I'm in profit at $9.25. Then, on top of that, you can count how my $6.06 of profit-sharing plus 70 cents of referral upgrade commission passes up to my team member SS and for no extra cost we also almost pay for his upgrade. That's awesome!  ;D [smiley=12-party.gif]

I don't think any of those folks in my upgrades are going to drop out. The three I've had for quite a few months and the fourth is relatively new but he is deep enough to have three shares already. With the admin doing the upselling, it shouldn't be long before more upgrade.

I'm liking the concept of this site more and more, especially when you plug our team build concept into it. They dovetail nicely.  :)

Also Dan, I see you are higher in the hits contest. You are not far from a twice-monthly $2 bonus by being in the top ten. Good work!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Oct, 2020 at 2:32pm
Hmm, can I use my commission to upgrade?


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Oct, 2020 at 5:05pm

dansbanners wrote on 18th Oct, 2020 at 2:32pm:
Hmm, can I use my commission to upgrade?


No, you need to take a cashout and then upgrade externally via paypal.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Oct, 2020 at 5:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Oct, 2020 at 5:05pm:
No, you need to take a cashout and then upgrade externally via paypal.

Though that happens automatically.. since they pay and get paid (subscription) through the same source recursively..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Oct, 2020 at 7:01pm
I've decided to compete for the top spot in the contest for a while. It's all good because the income from the winnings will go right back into promotions

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Oct, 2020 at 7:02pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Oct, 2020 at 5:48pm:
Though that happens automatically.. since they pay and get paid (subscription) through the same source recursively..

Hope it does. Otherwise, wouldn't the manual upgrades get tedious after a while?

I think this is another area they could work on or make improvements in. IMHO.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Oct, 2020 at 7:28pm

dansbanners wrote on 18th Oct, 2020 at 7:02pm:
Hope it does. Otherwise, wouldn't the manual upgrades get tedious after a while?

I think this is another area they could work on or make improvements in. IMHO.



Yes, the automation is great. You just get a notification from paypal for both the cash and the subscription assuming your cashout is more than $10.

The downside is the fees. That is where the setup fails both the site and its members.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Oct, 2020 at 8:41pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Oct, 2020 at 10:21pm:
Yes, I have one share that got 38 cents so that is accurate. You don’t get profit sharing on contest wins. The last referral # I got was 6235 so I am near the first multiplier (about 100 away)


Silly me, of course that account doesn't have multipliers yet  ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Oct, 2020 at 10:35pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Oct, 2020 at 8:41pm:
Silly me, of course that account doesn't have multipliers yet  ::)



6261 is my latest so less than 50 to that first multiplier.

Also, I'm getting great signup results with that banner so I hope you guys are trying it out. I should win the referral contest easily this time again. I'm now up to 52 referrals on my second account. It's just a matter of showing that banner. I think I'll post it in the MTV thread for people to use.

And you might want to send it to your referrals. The more people we can get doing a little will add up to a lot. Plus it is an excuse to make contact.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 27th Oct, 2020 at 5:09pm

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Oct, 2020 at 10:35pm:
Also, I'm getting great signup results with that banner so I hope you guys are trying it out.


I know it's a different banner you're talking about, but as of my writing this, the banner on your forum signature is displaying:

"Quit Porn. Live your best life!"

I couldn't help but bust out laughing  ;D


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 27th Oct, 2020 at 8:19pm

ruicarlov wrote on 27th Oct, 2020 at 5:09pm:
I know it's a different banner you're talking about, but as of my writing this, the banner on your forum signature is displaying:

"Quit Porn. Live your best life!"

I couldn't help but bust out laughing  ;D



[smiley=lolx.gif]

That's my friend, BoB.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 28th Oct, 2020 at 1:06pm

moneymarketing wrote on 27th Oct, 2020 at 8:19pm:
[smiley=lolx.gif]

That's my friend, BoB.

Rui,

Were you aware of the BoB banners in the signature? It's also in my signature as well. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 28th Oct, 2020 at 1:15pm

dansbanners wrote on 28th Oct, 2020 at 1:06pm:
Rui,

Were you aware of the BoB banners in the signature? It's also in my signature as well. :)


Yes, I was aware. Didn't make it any less hilarious, though.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 28th Oct, 2020 at 6:55pm
Where could I check to see if I had already added a banner or not to DLF?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Oct, 2020 at 8:03pm

dansbanners wrote on 28th Oct, 2020 at 6:55pm:
Where could I check to see if I had already added a banner or not to DLF?


You mean for the downline builder?

Check the category of the opportunity. The banner should be at the bottom. For example, this is what I have at the bottom of my PTC and surveys tab

http://i.imgur.com/Yrzh2Nc.png

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Oct, 2020 at 8:04pm
Awesome! I just earned my fifth monthly commission in my first position. So as I suspected, as members get a longer downline under them, the upgrades should cascade as they realize they will be in instant profits. Most of my upgrades only have three shares at this point. That only equaled $1.14 in profit but I guess they believe in the site, want to support it, and have listened to the admin's emails about upgrading (I must admit, he does a pretty good job of selling).

Those 5 upgrades are on 385 total referrals so not many have upgraded yet but can you imagine how lucrative that could be as they start getting close to instant profits?

:o [smiley=12-party.gif]

I was just explaining today to a guy about how great it would be in they could implement a PIF. Since we get the matching bonus, once someone is in profit, it wouldn't matter if they upgrade or not because we could PIF for a profit. So it would literally be risk-free to do that for them.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 30th Oct, 2020 at 9:04pm

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Oct, 2020 at 8:04pm:
Awesome! I just earned my fifth monthly commission in my first position. So as I suspected, as members get a longer downline under them, the upgrades should cascade as they realize they will be in instant profits. Most of my upgrades only have three shares at this point. That only equaled $1.14 in profit but I guess they believe in the site, want to support it, and have listened to the admin's emails about upgrading (I must admit, he does a pretty good job of selling).

Those 5 upgrades are on 385 total referrals so not many have upgraded yet but can you imagine how lucrative that could be as they start getting close to instant profits?

:o [smiley=12-party.gif]

I was just explaining today to a guy about how great it would be in they could implement a PIF. Since we get the matching bonus, once someone is in profit, it wouldn't matter if they upgrade or not because we could PIF for a profit. So it would literally be risk-free to do that for them.

Great! Every little bit helps and counts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

However, I still think they need to improve the advertising aspect of the program. I mean are we really benefiting from the tons of banners or referral links listed in their downline builders in a downline sense? I also still think they could still use an improvement in their professionalism in some aspects.

Sure, we wanna make money with the program and all. But we also need to balance it out with some substance and with the advertising aspect of the program and not keep sweeping too many things under the rug just for the sake of "hoping to make money with it". IMHO. 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Oct, 2020 at 7:09am

dansbanners wrote on 30th Oct, 2020 at 9:04pm:
Great! Every little bit helps and counts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

However, I still think they need to improve the advertising aspect of the program. I mean are we really benefiting from the tons of banners or referral links listed in their downline builders in a downline sense? I also still think they could still use an improvement in their professionalism in some aspects.

Sure, we wanna make money with the program and all. But we also need to balance it out with some substance and with the advertising aspect of the program and not keep sweeping too many things under the rug just for the sake of "hoping to make money with it". IMHO. 


Because it is a pretty rigid script, I think we are stuck with what it is now. I don't think he has a lot of money at the moment. I'm pretty sure getting a better script for the site may be one of his top priorities. Until then we just keep doing what we are doing.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Oct, 2020 at 7:53am

dansbanners wrote on 30th Oct, 2020 at 9:04pm:
Great! Every little bit helps and counts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

However, I still think they need to improve the advertising aspect of the program. I mean are we really benefiting from the tons of banners or referral links listed in their downline builders in a downline sense? I also still think they could still use an improvement in their professionalism in some aspects.

Sure, we wanna make money with the program and all. But we also need to balance it out with some substance and with the advertising aspect of the program and not keep sweeping too many things under the rug just for the sake of "hoping to make money with it". IMHO. 


Also, our 'job' is to seek out solid dependable sites and figure out the best way to create cash flow from them. That they don't meet our ideal is a problem but not our job, IMO.

We aren't at the place where we could go to a site and say, "We are able to deliver 100,000 hits and 200 referrals to your site per day but we need you to make some changes first." Maybe we will be there someday.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 31st Oct, 2020 at 1:15pm

moneymarketing wrote on 31st Oct, 2020 at 7:53am:
Also, our 'job' is to seek out solid dependable sites and figure out the best way to create cash flow from them. That they don't meet our ideal is a problem but not our job, IMO.

We aren't at the place where we could go to a site and say, "We are able to deliver 100,000 hits and 200 referrals to your site per day but we need you to make some changes first." Maybe we will be there someday.  :)

Cause there may be some net marketers out there that would also look at it from an "advertising or net marketing aspect" of the program. And decide that they won't benefit from it in that aspect and then decide not to continue with the program for that reason. To tell the truth, that if it wasn't for the teamwork in this forum I probably wouldn't have continued for the same reasons.

Alright, you also made some good points. We'll proceed as it is and hope for the best.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Oct, 2020 at 4:20pm

dansbanners wrote on 31st Oct, 2020 at 1:15pm:
Cause there may be some net marketers out there that would also look at it from an "advertising or net marketing aspect" of the program. And decide that they won't benefit from it in that aspect and then decide not to continue with the program for that reason. To tell the truth, that if it wasn't for the teamwork in this forum I probably wouldn't have continued for the same reasons.

Alright, you also made some good points. We'll proceed as it is and hope for the best.


That can be a drawback is the ability to find benefits that others might not see. That could be why the program is growing slowly and why we may need to go to the next level to recruit people.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Oct, 2020 at 6:31pm
Another nice bonus. I'm up to 56 referrals on my second account and already I got an upgrade(much sooner than expected). It looks like the site is getting one upgrade for every 50 - 100 referrals which is somewhere between 1%-2%. That is about the standard of sites in my experience so this one falls in line with that.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Nov, 2020 at 1:09pm
I won $1 for coming in 16th in the last contest!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Nov, 2020 at 5:38pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Nov, 2020 at 1:09pm:
I won $1 for coming in 16th in the last contest!

[smiley=12-party.gif]


I saw that. Good job. You, SS, and I were all in the payment zone  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Nov, 2020 at 6:36pm
I'm hoping to target one big Neobux day ad per month. That should cost $70. With that, I should be able to win one hits contest and two referral contests, raise the branding of the site on NB, and bring in a good number of referrals to DLF (50 - 100 per month?). The contest wins should bring in $30 so my net cost would be $40 and this will not include my earnings from profit sharing and commissions which are just above breakeven now with regards to my two upgrades

With a little more effort I might even win the second referral contest so that would boost my earings to $40 and my net cost to $30. If I can do this for a few months then the share multiplier should catch up quicker.

Even though it is a net cost at DLF, the cost is coming out of earnings from other sites so my rule of not putting money from offline earnings into my online earnings is still intact. This is all paying for itself which is most important.

Assuming the site keeps growing, this is where the compounding of the earnings should start to grow. I've kind of maxed out the referral profit potential at PV but DLF profit potential from referrals is virtually limitless so compounding is a good choice here. The last red flag is the PO and how he will react once the cash starts flowing.

Unfortunately, that is always the hardest test.





Dan, are you still in contact with Old Buddy? I'd be interested to hear an income update from him regarding the site since he is that far ahead of the rest of us and will be able to maybe give us a picture of what the future could look like if we keep on plugging.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Nov, 2020 at 7:17pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Nov, 2020 at 5:38pm:
I saw that. Good job. You, SS, and I were all in the payment zone  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks! Although what's SS's 2nd screename? Cause I didn't recognize it?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Nov, 2020 at 10:16pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Nov, 2020 at 7:17pm:
[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks! Although what's SS's 2nd screename? Cause I didn't recognize it?

I still don't have a second account.. I'm struggling to keep up with my work, at least I'm coding which is also what I enjoy doing. :)

I'm checking the forum daily even if I don't post.

Good job on the DLF contest to the whole team. :)

PS. Smartas seems to have really tried this time, good thing I didn't run a campaign to hit the second spot.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Nov, 2020 at 10:42pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Nov, 2020 at 10:16pm:
I still don't have a second account.. I'm struggling to keep up with my work, at least I'm coding which is also what I enjoy doing. :)

I'm checking the forum daily even if I don't post.

Good job on the DLF contest to the whole team. :)

Thanks! :)

Sure. Just do what you have to do.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 6:48am
Regarding the PIF option:


Quote:
I searched for a Plugin compatible with our software, but have
not found one.

Custom programming is too expensive at this time.


Oh, my one other red flag is the share value. it is slowly dropping which is indicative that he is not successful at raising income via outside programs. Hopefully, he can solve this.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:16am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 6:48am:
Regarding the PIF option:
"I searched for a Plugin compatible with our software, but have
not found one.

Custom programming is too expensive at this time.
"

Oh, my one other red flag is the share value. it is slowly dropping which is indicative that he is not successful at raising income via outside programs. Hopefully, he can solve this.

Dropping value could be due to people joining in faster than he can increase his earnings..  :dontknow

As for the programming part.. if his site accepts plugins it should be relatively easy..

And for the "too expensive" part, do you think I could make a deal with him for premium months instead of cash? This way he won't have to pay all at once.. I would still get paid through the membership eventually..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 1:54pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:16am:
As for the programming part.. if his site accepts plugins it should be relatively easy..

He does have a point. Not all program owners have programming skills. This is why some program owners have hardly made any changes to their programs once it's been set up. We were aware of some owners that fit this bill and still do.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 3:56pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:16am:
And for the "too expensive" part, do you think I could make a deal with him for premium months instead of cash? This way he won't have to pay all at once.. I would still get paid through the membership eventually..

Perhaps, maybe you could also ask him about letting members use their earnings to upgrade? It doesn't necessarily have to be just a subscription, it can also be just an one time payment once the earning reaches $7.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 4:31pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:16am:
Dropping value could be due to people joining in faster than he can increase his earnings..  :dontknow

As for the programming part.. if his site accepts plugins it should be relatively easy..

And for the "too expensive" part, do you think I could make a deal with him for premium months instead of cash? This way he won't have to pay all at once.. I would still get paid through the membership eventually..



I think he would be open to it. If you want to ask him just reply to his admin emails and he will get it. I contacted him under the moneymarketing handle so you can reference that.

If you want me to ask him on your behalf then I can do that.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 4:32pm

dansbanners wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 1:54pm:
He does have a point. Not all program owners have programming skills. This is why some program owners have hardly made any changes to their programs once it's been set up. We were aware of some owners that fit this bill and still do.


That's the reason I never started a program myself. No programming skills and the threat of hackers/scammers.

The lack of skills ties your hands a lot.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 5:26pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 4:32pm:
That's the reason I never started a program myself. No programming skills and the threat of hackers/scammers.

The lack of skills ties your hands a lot.

Sometime you just need some moderate skills and also learn some as you go along. I'm far from a programming expert myself. I mean how hard is it to just remove some broken links or something? Which some programming owners couldn't even bring them to do it even after they were notified where the broken links were and what pages they were on, etc. I also think some owners are also just caught up with this thinking "I'll just go as far as I can with the program as it is..." which could be a potential red flag. IMHO. 

For instance, you did let me know two weeks ago that my contact form wasn't working in my site. I started working on it immediately and it's now fixed. Even though my site is basically just for to earn some impressions with it and also hoping to earn some referrals here and there. And to perhaps  also showcase my designing skills a bit.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 5:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 4:31pm:
I think he would be open to it. If you want to ask him just reply to his admin emails and he will get it. I contacted him under the moneymarketing handle so you can reference that.

If you want me to ask him on your behalf then I can do that.

Let's wait till my commissions reaches $7 total. It's now at $2.63. Thanks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 8:26pm

dansbanners wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 5:29pm:
Let's wait till my commissions reaches $7 total. It's now at $2.63. Thanks.


$2.63. Not bad. Did you upgrade or is that still as a free member?

Did you get my note regarding Old Buddy?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:19pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 8:26pm:
$2.63. Not bad. Did you upgrade or is that still as a free member?

Did you get my note regarding Old Buddy?

Free member. I'm kinda compromising here that I'll at least use my earnings to upgrade.

No I didn't. What about him?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:26pm

dansbanners wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:19pm:
Free member. I'm kinda compromising here that I'll at least use my earnings to upgrade.

No I didn't. What about him?



I was wondering if you are still able to contact him? Since he is a ways ahead of us in the company, it would be nice to get an update on how he is doing in DLF.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 10:52pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:26pm:
I was wondering if you are still able to contact him? Since he is a ways ahead of us in the company, it would be nice to get an update on how he is doing in DLF.

As you may recall, he used to come in here in the forum sometime. Perhaps, maybe try sending him a pm?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:06pm

dansbanners wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 10:52pm:
As you may recall, he used to come in here in the forum sometime. Perhaps, maybe try sending him a pm?


I think he once said this thread was on email notification. Are you still listening, Old Buddy?

Are you able to see if that is the case, SS?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:21pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:06pm:
I think he once said this thread was on email notification. Are you still listening, Old Buddy?

Are you able to see if that is the case, SS?

Well, his profile said he hasn't logged on in this forum since Dec 2019.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:41pm
Another good question is have you seen his username on any of the top promoter contests lately?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:54pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Nov, 2020 at 9:26pm:
I was wondering if you are still able to contact him? Since he is a ways ahead of us in the company, it would be nice to get an update on how he is doing in DLF.
I see he has registered a skype account on the forum, that you can see in his profile page (or below his posts). etc. his last post.


moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:06pm:
I think he once said this thread was on email notification. Are you still listening, Old Buddy?

Are you able to see if that is the case, SS?
Yes, he is still being notified through email by this post along with 3 others, mostly the ones he has posted in.


dansbanners wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:21pm:
Well, his profile said he hasn't logged on in this forum since Dec 2019.
As for that, he can always visit and read the new posts without logging in, he would only have to log in, in order to reply.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 11:07pm

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:54pm:
As for that, he can always visit and read the new posts without logging in, he would only have to log in, in order to reply.

Yes. But still we've had a lot discussions in this thread within a year and he still hasn't participated.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 4th Nov, 2020 at 12:05am

dansbanners wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 11:07pm:
Yes. But still we've had a lot discussions in this thread within a year and he still hasn't participated.

That's true too. We can't tell for sure if he actually read his emails or visit to read the replies. :)

Each one has his own schedule, so we can't really force anyone to be active..  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Nov, 2020 at 1:32am

SolidSnake wrote on 4th Nov, 2020 at 12:05am:
That's true too. We can't tell for sure if he actually read his emails or visit to read the replies. :)

Each one has his own schedule, so we can't really force anyone to be active..  :dontknow

Or we could even take it one step further. His last post was in June 2019.

Part of the point is that I think moneymarketing shouldn't count on him reading and posting in this thread based on his track record.

I think his best bet to get in touch with him is to send him a pm and then see how that goes. I think that would be the next step for him. IMHO. 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 4th Nov, 2020 at 7:48am

dansbanners wrote on 3rd Nov, 2020 at 10:41pm:
Another good question is have you seen his username on any of the top promoter contests lately?



I've seen it a couple of times. If he is making income and he doesn't have the ability to generate a lot of traffic, then he might not be bothering with it since you need to send a lot to make significant cash. He also may be working smarter whereby he is using ads that inform and get clicks and signups as opposed to mass marketing.

This is one reason why I was asking for an update. At some point, we may not need to produce much traffic (though knowing me, I'll probably still produce).

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 4th Nov, 2020 at 5:25pm

dansbanners wrote on 4th Nov, 2020 at 1:32am:
Or we could even take it one step further. His last post was in June 2019.

Part of the point is that I think moneymarketing shouldn't count on him reading and posting in this thread based on his track record.

I think his best bet to get in touch with him is to send him a pm and then see how that goes. I think that would be the next step for him. IMHO. 


pm sent.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Nov, 2020 at 5:08pm
Last referral 6310 so I have my first share multiplier on my second position  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Nov, 2020 at 9:39pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Nov, 2020 at 5:08pm:
Last referral 6310 so I have my first share multiplier on my second position  [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's good to know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Nov, 2020 at 11:12pm
The NB ad yielded a whopping 11 referrals. Assuming I win the two contests with this, that works out to $4.54 per referral. That may be made up over time but that is just not a good enough result.

And DLF has counted 23000 hits. The last time I ran an ad at NB it was easily 140k hits at clixsense. So something is seriously wrong here.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th Nov, 2020 at 1:37am

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Nov, 2020 at 11:12pm:
And DLF has counted 23000 hits. The last time I ran an ad at NB it was easily 140k hits at clixsense. So something is seriously wrong here.

It could simply be that NB had more hits back then. When was that clixsense ad you were referring to? Was it a while ago or something?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Nov, 2020 at 7:21am

dansbanners wrote on 6th Nov, 2020 at 1:37am:
It could simply be that NB had more hits back then. When was that clixsense ad you were referring to? Was it a while ago or something?



It was more than a year ago. I doubt hits have gone down that much. Not by 80%. They wouldn't be selling ads for $70 if the volume went down that far.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 6th Nov, 2020 at 8:52am
Currently you'd get up to 120k/day/fixed ad at Neobux. But note that only ~37% of that amount is represented by unique visitors.
The huge discrepancy on the hits count, as well as the low-signup rate is caused by DLF (still) not having implemented secure/samesite cookies, as mentioned here previously, which since then get blocked in browsers even more, and by default, in a 3rd party context such as PTC ads.
There are still workarounds if you're that much into this program: you could setup a splash page which opens DLF in a new window/tab, that way their cookies will be set, tracking will work properly and any potential signups will definitely go to your referral pool.



Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th Nov, 2020 at 1:52pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 6th Nov, 2020 at 8:52am:
Currently you'd get up to 120k/day/fixed ad at Neobux. But note that only ~37% of that amount is represented by unique visitors.
The huge discrepancy on the hits count, as well as the low-signup rate is caused by DLF (still) not having implemented secure/samesite cookies, as mentioned here previously, which since then get blocked in browsers even more, and by default, in a 3rd party context such as PTC ads.
There are still workarounds if you're that much into this program: you could setup a splash page which opens DLF in a new window/tab, that way their cookies will be set, tracking will work properly and any potential signups will definitely go to your referral pool.

Good point and good advice.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th Nov, 2020 at 4:21pm
I have a good question. What if a DLF member deletes his or her account, does it have an affect on the overall share multipliers, matching bonuses and stuff like that, etc?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Nov, 2020 at 12:46am

rotate4all.com wrote on 6th Nov, 2020 at 8:52am:
Currently you'd get up to 120k/day/fixed ad at Neobux. But note that only ~37% of that amount is represented by unique visitors.
The huge discrepancy on the hits count, as well as the low-signup rate is caused by DLF (still) not having implemented secure/samesite cookies, as mentioned here previously, which since then get blocked in browsers even more, and by default, in a 3rd party context such as PTC ads.
There are still workarounds if you're that much into this program: you could setup a splash page which opens DLF in a new window/tab, that way their cookies will be set, tracking will work properly and any potential signups will definitely go to your referral pool.



That's an interesting idea. Now the trick is to get people to make that second click.  ;D

Many years ago people would set up an image file that was a splash page for paidverts. The whole thing was clickable and it would load super fast because there was no text/flash etc. I might try that and work it in conjunction with the magic banner. It could be a game-changer. I'll think it over and it if works I'll let you all know.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Nov, 2020 at 12:52am

dansbanners wrote on 6th Nov, 2020 at 4:21pm:
I have a good question. What if a DLF member deletes his or her account, does it have an affect on the overall share multipliers, matching bonuses and stuff like that, etc?



I believe it does but it is not a huge deal unless they were upgraded. Then you can lose an actual share. If they were free they will be replaced by site team recruiting probably on the same day. We are growing by over 100 per month so you wouldn't even miss a month of share benefit unless it was some fluke that they canceled on the last day of the month.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th Nov, 2020 at 4:03pm
moneymarketing,

Is there a way I could tell where are 3 of your submitted banners?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Nov, 2020 at 8:31pm

dansbanners wrote on 7th Nov, 2020 at 4:03pm:
moneymarketing,

Is there a way I could tell where are 3 of your submitted banners?


They should have a blue "hide from downline" option like in this link

https://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1549159888/381#381

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th Nov, 2020 at 11:07pm

moneymarketing wrote on 7th Nov, 2020 at 8:31pm:
They should have a blue "hide from downline" option like in this link

I'm only seeing the "Add A Program" blue button and not "Hide From Downline".

However, I do see your username or referral ID in your two PTCShare banners. What's your 3rd banner?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Nov, 2020 at 12:49am

dansbanners wrote on 7th Nov, 2020 at 11:07pm:
I'm only seeing the "Add A Program" blue button and not "Hide From Downline".

However, I do see your username or referral ID in your two PTCShare banners. What's your 3rd banner?


The bottom banner was added by SS, I think because the link has his referral link in it. The middle one here was added by me and the top one is oldbuddy's.

I think I may have only added one banner because most of my programs were already posted. So I just added my referral ID. You can see that mine is the one with the delete button. Maybe you hid the others already?

http://i.imgur.com/ukNzhfM.png

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Nov, 2020 at 10:14pm
I'm still not seeing the blue "Hide From Downline" button? Perhaps, something to do with my being a free member? :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Nov, 2020 at 10:24pm

dansbanners wrote on 12th Nov, 2020 at 10:14pm:
I'm still not seeing the blue "Hide From Downline" button? Perhaps, something to do with my being a free member? :-?


It's possible. I guess you would need to ask the admin.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Nov, 2020 at 8:48am

dansbanners wrote on 12th Nov, 2020 at 10:14pm:
I'm still not seeing the blue "Hide From Downline" button? Perhaps, something to do with my being a free member? :-?

When in the upgrade page it also states "Customize Your Programs List".. Maybe that has something to do with it.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th Nov, 2020 at 1:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Nov, 2020 at 8:48am:
When in the upgrade page it also states "Customize Your Programs List".. Maybe that has something to do with it.  :dontknow

Ok, I'll check again when I upgrade somewhere down the road.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Nov, 2020 at 6:56am

Quote:
Hi Downline Farm family,
here's wishing all of you a Happy Thanksgiving Day and weekend.

We have added our yearly Christmas Bonus to the profit sharing pool.

So if you are an upgraded Gold member, you can expect a little extra bump in your profit sharing commissions next month.

If you are still a free member, this is a great time to upgrade.

Thank you for being a valued member of Downline Farm,
Roberto Santana

*
*
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END OF MESSAGE





Quote:
November 2020      Christmas Bonus      $150


:money

As our shares grow this gets more valuable.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Nov, 2020 at 4:09pm
That banner is doing great.

I wrote this to the admin suggesting he put the banner in the banner section:


Quote:
As you can see in the promoter contest, I have had only 1900 clicks to
my referral page this cycle and 16 referrals......which is FANTASTIC!


I am using adhitz which is a bit more expensive but you can't argue with success. This is why PPC is such a great tool for banner advertising

If you want downline then give it a shot:

https://i.imgur.com/QOuYo8Z.jpg

And I don't even mind if you run an adhitz ad because we all benefit

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 30th Nov, 2020 at 4:27pm
Since I noticed no special efforts for the top spot in the top promoter contest I decided to give it a go with a single day rotator in R4A combined with some stock credits in Paidverts and PTCShare campaigns.

Even if I don't make it to the top I'll get $5 back from the second spot, any potential sign up is a bonus though, so let's see. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Dec, 2020 at 8:13am

SolidSnake wrote on 30th Nov, 2020 at 4:27pm:
Since I noticed no special efforts for the top spot in the top promoter contest I decided to give it a go with a single day rotator in R4A combined with some stock credits in Paidverts and PTCShare campaigns.

Even if I don't make it to the top I'll get $5 back from the second spot, any potential sign up is a bonus though, so let's see. :)

Pity... once again I needed a few more hours..

I think I'm suffering from insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Dec, 2020 at 4:23pm
How about this for different results? I don't even need to compete in the contest anymore. This is position one.

This is cool:


Quote:
2020-11-09 05:26:26      R**********      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      
2020-11-10 06:49:38      R********      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      
2020-11-13 06:22:23      A*******      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      
2020-11-15 00:01:03      N/A*********      Matching Bonus      2.78      
2020-11-15 00:01:03      N/A*********      Matching Bonus      1.04      
2020-11-15 00:01:03      N/A*********      Matching Bonus      1.04      
2020-11-15 00:01:03      N/A*********      Matching Bonus      1.04      
2020-11-28 19:26:20      N/A*****      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      
2020-11-29 02:41:04      S********      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      
2020-12-01 00:01:04      N/A*************      Profit Sharing      9.03      

Total Owing:      $18.43


[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

So that covers both my upgrades and those members that upgraded under me have been upgraded for months. They are practically locked in

With the income from contests on the other position, I'll earn close to $60 this month! That will pay for all the advertising I send.  :money :cool1

Compound growth curve, here we come!  ;D 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Dec, 2020 at 4:30pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Dec, 2020 at 4:23pm:
How about this for different results? I don't even need to compete in the contest anymore. This is position one.

This is cool:


[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

So that covers both my upgrades and those members that upgraded under me have been upgraded for months. They are practically locked in

With the income from contests on the other position, I'll earn close to $60 this month! That will pay for all the advertising I send.  :money :cool1

Compound growth curve, here we come!  ;D 8-)

That's good to know moneymarketing! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 1st Dec, 2020 at 6:16pm
Nice, my profit sharing doubled from last month. I must have hit a mulitiplier.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Dec, 2020 at 9:40pm

ruicarlov wrote on 1st Dec, 2020 at 6:16pm:
Nice, my profit sharing doubled from last month. I must have hit a mulitiplier.


Plus we had the bonus:

Total Members End of November, 2020 = 6387
Value of each share for November, 2020 = $0.564482. (Christmas Bonus).
***************
Total Members End Of October, 2020 = 6286
Value of each share for October, 2020 = $0.347712.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Dec, 2020 at 8:18am
I'm actually sending out welcome letters for the first time in a long time. Anyone that responds (which is zero out of about 30 so far  [smiley=lolx.gif] I see my copywriting skills haven't changed) I will get into their hands the magic banner. I'm still getting ~ 1 signup for every 100 clicks in adhitz so if even a few can duplicate this effort it should multiply team and site efforts greatly.

The admin finally responded to my offer of the banner. No go. Why am I not surprised a PO was not interested in something that was giving success? 

He also did not reply to my telling him that SS was interested in helping him with that PIF plugin.  ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Dec, 2020 at 7:36pm
All four of us are in the top ten!

[smiley=z06-guitar.gif] [smiley=10-band.gif]
[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Dec, 2020 at 8:53am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Dec, 2020 at 7:36pm:
All four of us are in the top ten!

[smiley=z06-guitar.gif] [smiley=10-band.gif]
[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Now that's nice to see! :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 10th Dec, 2020 at 7:37pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Dec, 2020 at 7:36pm:
All four of us are in the top ten!


As usual, I find it hard to believe how I got there.
I'm always reminded of the turtle on top of a fence post.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Dec, 2020 at 2:58pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Dec, 2020 at 7:36pm:
All four of us are in the top ten!

[smiley=z06-guitar.gif] [smiley=10-band.gif]
[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

I'm mostly just promoting it in Mega Mail Boost and N1Adz. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Dec, 2020 at 5:14pm

ruicarlov wrote on 10th Dec, 2020 at 7:37pm:
As usual, I find it hard to believe how I got there.
I'm always reminded of the turtle on top of a fence post.




[smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Dec, 2020 at 7:12pm
Cool.

I just got my second upgrade on my second position. The referral count is at 131 so this is keeping up with the ~2% upgrade rule of thumb for most PTCs and the surrounding industry.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Dec, 2020 at 7:15pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Dec, 2020 at 7:12pm:
Cool.

I just got my second upgrade on my second position. The referral count is at 131 so this is keeping up with the ~2% upgrade rule of thumb for most PTCs and the surrounding industry.



The total for both positions is 505. upgrade count is 7 so it is just above 1%

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Dec, 2020 at 12:24am
Ok so, how to upgrade?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 19th Dec, 2020 at 1:53pm

dansbanners wrote on 19th Dec, 2020 at 12:24am:
Ok so, how to upgrade?


Click the "upgrade" tab a use Paypal or whatever that ORU thing is.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Dec, 2020 at 2:32am

ruicarlov wrote on 19th Dec, 2020 at 1:53pm:
Click the "upgrade" tab a use Paypal or whatever that ORU thing is.

Ok. I just realized that I didn't reach out the cashout threshold yet, $10. I'm at $8.69. I should reach it within a month or so.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Dec, 2020 at 9:53pm
I sent out 50+ welcome emails.

Not one reply.

[smiley=sad.gif]

I'm not sure if it is them or my horrible copywriting skills.

I can make magic with banners but anything longer just dies for me in marketing.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Dec, 2020 at 1:38am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Dec, 2020 at 9:53pm:
I sent out 50+ welcome emails.

Is it built in or you made your own mailing list?

BTW, I just noticed that I got a referral from promoting DLF in Mega Mail Boost.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Dec, 2020 at 7:19am

dansbanners wrote on 24th Dec, 2020 at 1:38am:
Is it built in or you made your own mailing list?

BTW, I just noticed that I got a referral from promoting DLF in Mega Mail Boost.



I used the email addresses that are shown in the program.

This also made me a bit nervous because it could probably be considered UCE. That he is encouraging people to email their downlines could actually create problems. That all was enough to make me pause.

Congrats on the referral.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Dec, 2020 at 1:58pm

moneymarketing wrote on 24th Dec, 2020 at 7:19am:
I used the email addresses that are shown in the program.

This also made me a bit nervous because it could probably be considered UCE. That he is encouraging people to email their downlines could actually create problems. That all was enough to make me pause.

Congrats on the referral.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yeah, that's another aspect of the program he could have made a little more automated.

Thanks. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jan, 2021 at 12:32am
Adhitz has been a great source of referrals. Very cost-effective. The only drawback is that they have a limited number of views so I'm going to try an experiment. I'm going to run two banners there instead of one to see if they increase the exposure like what happens at some sites where you get more exposure with each position you add. Let's hope it doubles my referral count. I got 43 last month. If I can push it above 80 that would be great.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 3rd Jan, 2021 at 6:52pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Jan, 2021 at 12:32am:
Adhitz has been a great source of referrals. Very cost-effective. The only drawback is that they have a limited number of views so I'm going to try an experiment. I'm going to run two banners there instead of one to see if they increase the exposure like what happens at some sites where you get more exposure with each position you add. Let's hope it doubles my referral count. I got 43 last month. If I can push it above 80 that would be great.
These are some nice numbers..

What package are you purchasing there and how much does it cost?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jan, 2021 at 7:38pm

SolidSnake wrote on 3rd Jan, 2021 at 6:52pm:
These are some nice numbers..

What package are you purchasing there and how much does it cost?



I'm just going with their network ads. The CPC is around a nickel and my expense is over $1 per day (my budget is for $4 but they can't provide the clicks for that) but they are people who show interest in the ad so they are pretty high quality.

Last month I got 43 referrals and the cost of them at adhitz was about $42.05. Not all of them came from adhitz, of course. The rest were free traffic from YGP and PTCS, but with those referrals, I was able to win $27 in contest cash for the month so the net cost was not much. And this is all paid with compounded earnings anyway.

My net earnings after upgrades on my two positions are around $37 so I'm pretty close to breaking even, even after all advertising expenses are in.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jan, 2021 at 6:10pm
;D

so I doubled my ads at Adhitz and am now getting fewer referrals.  :dontknow

[smiley=lolx.gif]

I'm back to one again. I can put on the second when the first runs out of clicks.

What a bizarre industry.  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Jan, 2021 at 11:33am

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Jan, 2021 at 6:10pm:
;D

so I doubled my ads at Adhitz and am now getting fewer referrals.  :dontknow

[smiley=lolx.gif]

I'm back to one again. I can put on the second when the first runs out of clicks.

What a bizarre industry.  :D

It seems that that is their threshold.. :)

I believe, you are already advertising to all of their network's members, thus adding more campaigns probably means you're advertising more at the same people, so maybe that's why the sign ups are not adding up..

They might also feel bombarded as well if they see your ad multiple times, so that could affect the results with a negative decline as well.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Jan, 2021 at 4:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 12th Jan, 2021 at 11:33am:
It seems that that is their threshold.. :)

I believe, you are already advertising to all of their network's members, thus adding more campaigns probably means you're advertising more at the same people, so maybe that's why the sign ups are not adding up..

They might also feel bombarded as well if they see your ad multiple times, so that could affect the results with a negative decline as well.



Yes, saturation is an issue. That is why I was testing sometimes when people see the ad multiple times they will think it is the sign of a good-paying site (else how could they afford to advertise?). Sometimes it backfires.

It's hard to say how many people see the ads, how big their network is, and how many new people are added every day.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Jan, 2021 at 5:21pm

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Jan, 2021 at 6:10pm:
;D

so I doubled my ads at Adhitz and am now getting fewer referrals.  :dontknow

[smiley=lolx.gif]

I'm back to one again. I can put on the second when the first runs out of clicks.

What a bizarre industry.  :D

Perhaps maybe one thing you can do if it becomes a pattern. Is to perhaps maybe give some time in between the ads. That after promoting it and getting some referrals is to maybe wait at least one month before you do it again.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jan, 2021 at 9:03am
Just when you start to get a little discouraged, this industry comes along and says, "Get up sucker. We're not quite done with you yet."

[smiley=lolx.gif]

So it looks like the referrals have started up again. I resubmitted my ads at adhitz. There may have been some technical issues that were keeping them from displaying right. It seems they are working better now.

The encouraging thing is that I now have four upgrades in my second position. So it is 8 total on 542 total. The second position only has 158 members though so the upgrade rate is better. Since I built that with the newer banner, I think that banner and his email messaging to new and non-upgraded members have increased the upgrade rate.

In any case, the sucker continues. At least I'm not paying for this hobby    ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Jan, 2021 at 1:44pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Jan, 2021 at 9:03am:
Just when you start to get a little discouraged, this industry comes along and says, "Get up sucker. We're not quite done with you yet."

[smiley=lolx.gif]

So it looks like the referrals have started up again. I resubmitted my ads at adhitz. There may have been some technical issues that were keeping them from displaying right. It seems they are working better now.

The encouraging thing is that I now have four upgrades in my second position. So it is 8 total on 542 total. The second position only has 158 members though so the upgrade rate is better. Since I built that with the newer banner, I think that banner and his email messaging to new and non-upgraded members have increased the upgrade rate.

In any case, the sucker continues. At least I'm not paying for this hobby    ;D

That's good to know. Perhaps, maybe also take some of little downtimes in stride. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jan, 2021 at 5:04pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Jan, 2021 at 1:44pm:
That's good to know. Perhaps, maybe also take some of little downtimes in stride. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


The problem is that there haven't been downtimes. If you check the referral contest section you can see that my numbers have been pretty consistent since I have been focusing on DLF. This is also something I never experience in paidverts which is what I consider the gold standard for referring. It also used to be that way with clixsense. If you put up an ad, because there are always new people coming into the system, you can expect pretty consistent results. That's why I always raise an eyebrow when the results skew by a great amount. It usually means someone is playing games somewhere or there has been a mistake made.


As your numbers grow the law of averages skews in your favor and the spikes and anomalies should become fewer. That's just the way it works.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Jan, 2021 at 10:38pm

Quote:
Current Contest:
There is No contest running this period
(Will Return Soon)


::) [smiley=sad.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Jan, 2021 at 1:41pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Jan, 2021 at 10:38pm:
::) [smiley=sad.gif]

Ok, are they at least still running the top promoter, points contest???  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Jan, 2021 at 5:05pm

dansbanners wrote on 20th Jan, 2021 at 1:41pm:
Ok, are they at least still running the top promoter, points contest???  :-?



yes

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Jan, 2021 at 5:17pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Jan, 2021 at 5:05pm:
yes

Ok, that's good to know.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Feb, 2021 at 8:30pm
I now have over $10 in commissions. So what do I need to do to upgrade? First withdraw onto paypal then use the earnings to upgrade right?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 1st Feb, 2021 at 9:23pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Feb, 2021 at 8:30pm:
I now have over $10 in commissions. So what do I need to do to upgrade? First withdraw onto paypal then use the earnings to upgrade right?


Yes, that's it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th Feb, 2021 at 3:01pm
Ok, I've used the commissions to upgrade in DLF. In what ways should I be expecting to see the difference in my account now that I'm upgraded?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 7th Feb, 2021 at 8:24pm
You should start seeing an increase in the profits from the share pool, both based on your own shares, but also a 100% matching bonus of what your referrals (me) get. So if I earn $3 of the profit sharing, you'll earn 3$ plus your own portion thanks to your shares.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th Feb, 2021 at 8:41pm

ruicarlov wrote on 7th Feb, 2021 at 8:24pm:
You should start seeing an increase in the profits from the share pool, both based on your own shares, but also a 100% matching bonus of what your referrals (me) get. So if I earn $3 of the profit sharing, you'll earn 3$ plus your own portion thanks to your shares.

Ok, I'll be on the lookout for them later on this month. Thanks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Feb, 2021 at 4:14pm

dansbanners wrote on 7th Feb, 2021 at 8:41pm:
Ok, I'll be on the lookout for them later on this month. Thanks.



You should see your matching bonus in your account, Dan.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Feb, 2021 at 1:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Feb, 2021 at 4:14pm:
You should see your matching bonus in your account, Dan.

Yes. It was $2.86. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Feb, 2021 at 5:47pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Feb, 2021 at 1:59pm:
Yes. It was $2.86. 8-)



Very nice!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Depending on what the profit-sharing is, you could be very close to earning an instant profit on your first upgrade.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Feb, 2021 at 8:42pm
My latest referral is 6736 so we added more than 150 referrals this month. That's better than we have been doing. Maybe more are getting active in promoting. Every little bit helps.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Feb, 2021 at 8:55am
We must give smartas12 fits.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Mar, 2021 at 5:56pm
I earned another $2.50 in profit sharing and another $1 in the top promoter contest. Thus have enough earnings to stay upgraded. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Mar, 2021 at 6:31pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Mar, 2021 at 5:56pm:
I earned another $2.50 in profit sharing and another $1 in the top promoter contest. Thus have enough earnings to stay upgraded. 8-)


That's cool.

And for SS my first account earned $6.25 so he will get that in profit sharing plus the $.70 in commissions which totals $6.95. So I am almost singlehandedly paying his upgrade which is also cool.


Earnings from both accounts are $28.5. If you subtract my $14 in upgrades, I've doubled my money. So I'll have some more adbucks to challenge smartas12 with.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 4:26pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Mar, 2021 at 6:31pm:
That's cool.

And for SS my first account earned $6.25 so he will get that in profit sharing plus the $.70 in commissions which totals $6.95. So I am almost singlehandedly paying his upgrade which is also cool.

Nice! Was that caused by another upgraded referal or multiplier?

Since last two months I didn't participate in the contests and didn't break through $10 for my payment, I'm standing like this right now:

2021-01-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 5.75 Unpaid
2021-01-26 07:20:37 MM Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2021-02-01 00:01:04 N/A Profit Sharing 2.86 Unpaid
2021-02-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 5.72 Unpaid
2021-02-26 05:43:08 MM Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2021-03-01 00:01:04 N/A Profit Sharing 2.50 Unpaid

Current Total Owing: $18.23

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 6:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 25th Feb, 2021 at 8:42pm:
My latest referral is 6736 so we added more than 150 referrals this month. That's better than we have been doing. Maybe more are getting active in promoting. Every little bit helps.


How do you check your referral's number? I can't seem to find it the referrals tab.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 7:03pm

ruicarlov wrote on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 6:34pm:
How do you check your referral's number? I can't seem to find it the referrals tab.

I usually right click the referral's image and click inspect.

You should see something like this:

<img width="100" height="100" border="0" src="referral_photo.php?rid=6135">

I remember MM does it another way in case this doesn't help you. :)

By "image" I mean this thing:



;D


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 11:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 4:26pm:
Nice! Was that caused by another upgraded referal or multiplier?

Since last two months I didn't participate in the contests and didn't break through $10 for my payment, I'm standing like this right now:

2021-01-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 5.75 Unpaid
2021-01-26 07:20:37 MM Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2021-02-01 00:01:04 N/A Profit Sharing 2.86 Unpaid
2021-02-15 00:01:03 N/A Matching Bonus 5.72 Unpaid
2021-02-26 05:43:08 MM Gold Downline Farm 0.70 Unpaid
2021-03-01 00:01:04 N/A Profit Sharing 2.50 Unpaid

Current Total Owing: $18.23


I have five upgraded referrals, including Dan so my multiplier must be up to 4 now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 11:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 7:03pm:
I usually right click the referral's image and click inspect.

You should see something like this:

<img width="100" height="100" border="0" src="referral_photo.php?rid=6135">

I remember MM does it another way in case this doesn't help you. :)

By "image" I mean this thing:



;D


Yes, just click the total purchased number (usually $0) and a pop-up box will come up with their referral number in the URL.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 7:31am

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Mar, 2021 at 7:03pm:
I usually right click the referral's image and click inspect.

You should see something like this:

<img width="100" height="100" border="0" src="referral_photo.php?rid=6135">

I remember MM does it another way in case this doesn't help you. :)

By "image" I mean this thing:



;D


Coders gonna code  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 1:20pm
Ah ha. That's what I call a Pro Gamer Move!  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:01pm
I'm sure you guys got this:


Quote:
I hope you are doing great today.

You may have noticed a smaller profit sharing commission than usual this month.

I'm writing to explain why.

February had 28 days, and it so happens that allot of our Gold member subscriptions are processed on the 29th, 3oth and 31st of each month.

So February missed out on those payments, but they have all processed now, in March, so that will boost the Next profit share commissions.

I just wanted to let our Gold members know.

There will be dips and spikes from month to month in your profit sharing commissions, for many different reasons.

But if you compare Year-To-Year, it will show an increase.

Of course, the Biggest increases will be when your referrals upgrade, and your biggest decrease will be when one of them cancels their upgrade.

So don't ignore your referrals. Contact them and offer to help them in any way you can.

There is something that practically NO Sponsor in MLM ever does, and that is to offer to help their referrals with ANY issue, even if it's not related to your business.

Nobody cares how much you know, until they know how much you care.

Thanks again for being such a vital part of Downline Farm,
Roberto


So that's good to know for March  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:12pm
This site reminds me so much of a movie scene. The two characters are fighting. They've knocked over a lit candle and a can of gasoline. The gas is spreading across the floor. It is only a matter of time before the two make contact and the stunt man is running out of the house in one of those fire suits(I suppose I watch too many shows).

That gas is my earnings. The lit candle is the paid part of my ad network (neobux, adhitz, etc.)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:01pm:
I'm sure you guys got this:

So that's good to know for March  :money

No, I didn't. Where did you see that? Anyway, good to see the owner being proactive.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:56pm
My last referral is 6766 so that is 18 referrals for March already. That is averaging 6 per day. If we can keep this going we are on pace for 180 new members in March

Samrtas12 has accepted my challenge and we are dueling for the top spot. That always has a beneficial knock-on effect for site referring.   [smiley=12-party.gif]

(you need a dueling/wrestling/fighting emoji, SS  ;D)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 11:49pm

dansbanners wrote on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:48pm:
No, I didn't. Where did you see that? Anyway, good to see the owner being proactive.


In the email to gold upgrades.

Yes, he is an active owner. He understands the benefits of using his list to keep people active and move them towards upgrades. I'm pretty sure he is responsible for most of my upgrades since I don't and am terrible at managing my referrals.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 4th Mar, 2021 at 12:04am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:56pm:
(you need a dueling/wrestling/fighting emoji, SS  ;D)


In its absence, let this video do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUczpTPATyU

One of the participants clearly shares some similarities with moneymarketing.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 4th Mar, 2021 at 11:33am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 9:56pm:
(you need a dueling/wrestling/fighting emoji, SS  ;D)

I thought Rui's dragonball memes were quite adequately fullfilling that task..  ::)  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 4th Mar, 2021 at 10:09pm
It looks like he came prepared this time!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

It's a win/win. I just hope he is using quality traffic. Now, should I employ the R4A option and compete or just let him run?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Mar, 2021 at 11:45pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2021 at 11:49pm:
In the email to gold upgrades.

You mean the email he sent to all upgraded members?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2021 at 12:30am

dansbanners wrote on 4th Mar, 2021 at 11:45pm:
You mean the email he sent to all upgraded members?



Yes. Did you get it...or was yours different?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Mar, 2021 at 1:30am

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Mar, 2021 at 12:30am:
Yes. Did you get it...or was yours different?

I didn't get it. I'm kinda wondering why? Was it cause I just upgraded last month or something?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Mar, 2021 at 6:22am

dansbanners wrote on 5th Mar, 2021 at 1:30am:
I didn't get it. I'm kinda wondering why? Was it cause I just upgraded last month or something?


Yes, that is strange but nothing surprises me regarding websites and admins anymore. You have an upgrade in Rui so it is not because you don't have any upgraded members. Maybe the email only went out to people who have upgrades at the end of the month?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Mar, 2021 at 2:01pm

moneymarketing wrote on 5th Mar, 2021 at 6:22am:
Yes, that is strange but nothing surprises me regarding websites and admins anymore. You have an upgrade in Rui so it is not because you don't have any upgraded members. Maybe the email only went out to people who have upgrades at the end of the month?

Did SS or rui get the email?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 5th Mar, 2021 at 11:22pm
I've just checked my email and have not received it, at least not yet.

If he's using a newsletter mailing service it may send them in groups of 100 per hour or few hours..

Considering that the membership data has got relatively large compared to what it was a year ago, it could either mean that it takes a few days for everyone to receive the newsletter or he may even have fallen off the allowed number of contacts in his package..

Or it could be that he also sent the contest winners email on March 1st (I did receive that one), and that could have caused a bottleneck in the sending queue. When did you receive the news email MM?

I've also performed a blacklist check, and he seems to not be listed in any of them, so that's not the case.

Let's just wait and see. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Mar, 2021 at 7:30am

SolidSnake wrote on 5th Mar, 2021 at 11:22pm:
I've just checked my email and have not received it, at least not yet.

If he's using a newsletter mailing service it may send them in groups of 100 per hour or few hours..

Considering that the membership data has got relatively large compared to what it was a year ago, it could either mean that it takes a few days for everyone to receive the newsletter or he may even have fallen off the allowed number of contacts in his package..

Or it could be that he also sent the contest winners email on March 1st (I did receive that one), and that could have caused a bottleneck in the sending queue. When did you receive the news email MM?

I've also performed a blacklist check, and he seems to not be listed in any of them, so that's not the case.

Let's just wait and see. :)


Two days ago on March 3rd so I think they all would have gone out. He must have narrowed the mailing to those who had upgrades on those days.

It's amazing how even a group as small as ours is able to expose so much backroom stuff in this industry.  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 6th Mar, 2021 at 6:16pm

dansbanners wrote on 5th Mar, 2021 at 2:01pm:
Did SS or rui get the email?


Can't seem to find one.  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Mar, 2021 at 7:13pm

ruicarlov wrote on 6th Mar, 2021 at 6:16pm:
Can't seem to find one.  :-/


:o

I feel like I'm in some movie where I was talking to someone and they disappear. Now everyone is trying to tell me the person never existed.

I think the name of the movie is:

"The email vanishes"

You guys aren't helping my paranoia.  :-? :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 6th Mar, 2021 at 7:18pm

moneymarketing wrote on 6th Mar, 2021 at 7:13pm:
:o

I feel like I'm in some movie where I was talking to someone and they disappear. Now everyone is trying to tell me the person never existed.

I think the name of the movie is:

"The email vanishes"

You guys aren't helping my paranoia.  :-? :dontknow

What email..?   ::)

I was SO tempted to temporarily move our conversation somewhere hidden and let you wonder..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 6th Mar, 2021 at 8:06pm
Now here's the time for a good TFS dragonball meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmqZh-ejte4&t=752s


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 7th Mar, 2021 at 2:35pm

ruicarlov wrote on 6th Mar, 2021 at 8:06pm:
Now here's the time for a good TFS dragonball meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmqZh-ejte4&t=752s

See..? We should have seen it coming...

Meanwhile, I got paid from DLF just like before.

Sent by EZbiz.co: 14,21 EUR
Fee: -1,12 EUR
Total: 13,09 EUR

That's what comes out of the $18.23 in my balance.

I was wondering.. how much does ORU hold in fees?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Mar, 2021 at 8:03pm

SolidSnake wrote on 7th Mar, 2021 at 2:35pm:
See..? We should have seen it coming...

Meanwhile, I got paid from DLF just like before.

Sent by EZbiz.co: 14,21 EUR
Fee: -1,12 EUR
Total: 13,09 EUR

That's what comes out of the $18.23 in my balance.

I was wondering.. how much does ORU hold in fees?


I don't recall them taking fees but they take a monthly subscription so they are not a good deal. They will slowly eat your cash.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Mar, 2021 at 7:41am
I'm going to give smartas12 the contest this round and then I am going to go neobux nuclear in the next round. I think I can sustain two rounds per month and that will give the site a huge push forward. Plus I have some cash at R4A to put into a huge advertising push.

It's time to melt the internet.

If I can go big here, we can all win. It's time for the big leagues.  [smiley=12-party.gif] 8-)



Yes...I know...famous last words... [smiley=sad.gif]

[smiley=lolx.gif]

What did the hockey coach say? You can't score if you don't shoot the puck.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 11th Mar, 2021 at 3:50pm
Well.. thanks to you both going that far I see noone else on the site tried for the third spot.. so here I am. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Mar, 2021 at 5:59pm
He's hinting at starting a forum.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th Mar, 2021 at 8:08pm

moneymarketing wrote on 13th Mar, 2021 at 5:59pm:
He's hinting at starting a forum.

I think that would be helpful as an extra contact source.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Mar, 2021 at 9:22pm

dansbanners wrote on 13th Mar, 2021 at 8:08pm:
I think that would be helpful as an extra contact source.


Yes, and getting more people to market more effectively. I'm sure we could generate more referrals as a group.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Mar, 2021 at 4:21pm

SolidSnake wrote on 11th Mar, 2021 at 3:50pm:
Well.. thanks to you both going that far I see noone else on the site tried for the third spot.. so here I am. :)

Looks like more people got motivated to fight for the 3rd place ..which benefits everyone so that's also..  :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Mar, 2021 at 4:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Mar, 2021 at 4:21pm:
Looks like more people got motivated to fight for the 3rd place ..which benefits everyone so that's also..  :cool1



Yes, they came out of the woodwork. It looks like our team is getting plucky.

So this week is a momentous one for me. It will decide the future of my advertising for referrals. I have two big tests coming up. One for DLF and one for that new leads leap page. Thanks to bitcoin exploding I can afford to speculate a bit on advertising. I have a lot of confidence in both but the data and the result is the final arbiter.

Let's hope all goes well. If not, then my future as a referrer is going to be greatly diminished since I am tired of tossing money into the pot for very little return. I'll still work the sites but they can get their own referrals in the future. It will be a better return if I just keep the money earned and not go through the trouble of spending it on trying to get affiliates. More humble, less work.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Mar, 2021 at 3:03pm
I won $2 for coming in 10th. And also earned $2.50 in matching bonus. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:04pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 3:03pm:
I won $2 for coming in 10th. And also earned $2.50 in matching bonus. 8-)


Good work! And rui won the referral contest with me coming in second place! Way to go, Rui!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

You guys are starting to give me a good challenge.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:14pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:04pm:
Good work! And rui won the referral contest with me coming in second place! Way to go, Rui!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

You guys are starting to give me a good challenge.

Congrats rui on winning the contest and to you moneymarketing on coming in 2nd. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:23pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:04pm:
Good work! And rui won the referral contest with me coming in second place! Way to go, Rui!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

You guys are starting to give me a good challenge.



This is why the site concept is so great. Even if we are competing in the contests. Even if one of us gets 20 referrals and the other gets ten, that is 30 new referrals for all of us to benefit from. It's very hard to go wrong.

Are you using that banner I made to get those referrals, Rui because those are some impressive numbers?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Mar, 2021 at 7:11pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 4:23pm:
This is why the site concept is so great. Even if we are competing in the contests. Even if one of us gets 20 referrals and the other gets ten, that is 30 new referrals for all of us to benefit from. It's very hard to go wrong.

Are you using that banner I made to get those referrals, Rui because those are some impressive numbers?

I've been using this one, cause I think it's the most professional looking one and mostly resembles what the program is about:

https://downlinefarm.com/getimg.php?id=9

Hmm, which banner are you talking about?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 16th Mar, 2021 at 7:14pm
Wait, WHAT!

1st place in referral contest? How? Why?

I seriously have no idea how I got there. It's not like I ran any campaigns recently or anything. I literally haven't touched anything regarding DLF in the past two months. I know I should still have some ads running, maybe banners or text links.
But 14 referrals and 1st place?

:o

[smiley=z03-lol.gif]

To win not even trying is rather amusing, but then again I think I once was similarly flabergasted when I got in the top 10 promoter contest. This site surprises me sometimes.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Mar, 2021 at 8:10pm

ruicarlov wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 7:14pm:
Wait, WHAT!

1st place in referral contest? How? Why?

I seriously have no idea how I got there. It's not like I ran any campaigns recently or anything. I literally haven't touched anything regarding DLF in the past two months. I know I should still have some ads running, maybe banners or text links.
But 14 referrals and 1st place?

:o

[smiley=z03-lol.gif]

To win not even trying is rather amusing, but then again I think I once was similarly flabergasted when I got in the top 10 promoter contest. This site surprises me sometimes.

LOL! ;D

Just take the success and run with it! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2021 at 9:29pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 7:11pm:
I've been using this one, cause I think it's the most professional looking one and mostly resembles what the program is about:

https://downlinefarm.com/getimg.php?id=9

Hmm, which banner are you talking about?


:-?

um....the one I have been bellowing about for months now



::)






Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Mar, 2021 at 9:36pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 9:29pm:
:-?

um....the one I have been bellowing about for months now



::)

Ok, I'll give it a try. Hmm, I guess I'd need to download it to my web hosting server then use it? Let me know. Thanks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Mar, 2021 at 10:00pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 9:36pm:
Ok, I'll give it a try. Hmm, I guess I'd need to download it to my web hosting server then use it? Let me know. Thanks.



You might need to if you are posting to https formats. I'd put up the imgur link but it seems very hit and miss.

You might want to try posting it at imgur if you are going to use https but make sure it shows first.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Mar, 2021 at 11:57pm
Meanwhile.. I got a referral (ID:6799) coming from YGP..

That's weird, I haven't advertised there for months, ever since I stopped clicking but kept my credits for future advertisements.
So, I decided to set one two days ago for DLF and got a referral with the first 1000 credits..

I've driven many thousands the past few months from PV, PTCS, Scarlet and other sites with no luck.

This site surprises me too..  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Mar, 2021 at 5:38am
Launching Neobomb #1!

Take THAT smartas12!

*laughs like a mad scientist*

:D

Let's hope this works.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Mar, 2021 at 1:25pm

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Mar, 2021 at 5:38am:
Launching Neobomb #1!

Take THAT smartas12!

*laughs like a mad scientist*

:D

Let's hope this works.

Go! Go! Go! Go for it!

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Mar, 2021 at 5:50pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Mar, 2021 at 1:25pm:
Go! Go! Go! Go for it!

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]


So my fancy new tracker at leads leap says I've sent over 17000 hits to the DLF referral page. At least 13K were 5 seconds or more yet the DLF contest page says I've sent a total of 3600...

:-/

...and zero signups apparently.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Mar, 2021 at 9:26pm
I got this email from the admin today:


Quote:
Hi [Username],
I hope you are having a great week.

We have made a change to the Member Menu.

We have Reorganized the Downline Builders as follows:

- Hover over the "Downline Builders" Tab, and all of the different downline builders will be on the Drop-down menu there.

- We disabled the Main Downline Builder page, as it was getting too long and confusing.

Another important matter is that the downline builder pages problem has finally been SOLVED.
All of the downline builders now work perfectly.

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for your patience in this issue, as it took a while to fix.

The makers of the software could not fix it.
Our Hosting provider could not fix it.
It was resolved by the company that built and installed our Seniority Pay profit sharing plan,  http://www.websofttechs.com/


Bigger changes are coming soon, we will keep you informed.

The first major change is the addition of a Forum. In this forum we will be able to discus the Other proposed changes, Before they are finalized and implemented.

This Forum will be accessible to people Outside of Downline Farm, though I expect most of it's users will be our own members (at least initially).

More info coming soon, so don't miss our emails.

Have a blessed day,
Roberto Santana


@MM I just hope you didn't hit a downtime.. :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Mar, 2021 at 9:33pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Mar, 2021 at 9:26pm:
I got this email from the admin today:

@MM I just hope you didn't hit a downtime.. :-/

I did notice the changes in the Tabbars. Also liked the changes in the downline builders. Made it look more professional, not to also mention cutting down on the pages' loading times. Good to see the owner being proactive. Thanks posting it in here SS.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Mar, 2021 at 10:18pm

SolidSnake wrote on 17th Mar, 2021 at 9:26pm:
I got this email from the admin today:


@MM I just hope you didn't hit a downtime.. :-/



I informed him I was going to drop the neo ad. I never told him when but knowing that he could have informed members he was going to lock down the site.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Mar, 2021 at 6:07am

moneymarketing wrote on 17th Mar, 2021 at 10:18pm:
I informed him I was going to drop the neo ad. I never told him when but knowing that he could have informed members he was going to lock down the site.



In giving the benefit of the doubt, the tracker might not be working properly within all browser frames so I'll try a stripped-down version with only the DLF page and no tracker on it and see if that improves things.

Because with zero referrals and only 4,000 views credited on what is normally a 140K ad, something is definitely getting lost in translation.

Usually, the problem lies with the nut behind the keyboard.  ;D :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Mar, 2021 at 6:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Mar, 2021 at 6:07am:
In giving the benefit of the doubt, the tracker might not be working properly within all browser frames so I'll try a stripped-down version with only the DLF page and no tracker on it and see if that improves things.

Because with zero referrals and only 4,000 views credited on what is normally a 140K ad, something is definitely getting lost in translation.

Usually, the problem lies with the nut behind the keyboard.  ;D :D



Yes, it was the tracker. I've had about 3K clicks in a few hours. Hopefully, some of those translate into referrals.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Mar, 2021 at 7:04am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Mar, 2021 at 6:02pm:
Yes, it was the tracker. I've had about 3K clicks in a few hours. Hopefully, some of those translate into referrals.


Without the tracker, it did better but not a lot. Referring was better but still only a dozen new ones so I'm not sure if it is worth the cost of a one-day ad. Adhitz is probably better value for the dollar but it can only deliver signup contest and not promotion contest wins.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 5:22am
The forum is live  8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 5:22am:
The forum is live  8-)

I signed up but I am not receiving the confirmation email.. it's not in my spam list either.

Did you successfully sign up there? Cancel that.. I saw your posts.. lol

I used my yahoo email, the same I used in DLF and have tried 3 times to resend the activation email with no luck..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 5:02pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:44am:
I signed up but I am not receiving the confirmation email.. it's not in my spam list either.

Did you successfully sign up there? Cancel that.. I saw your posts.. lol

I used my yahoo email, the same I used in DLF and have tried 3 times to resend the activation email with no luck..


Did you use your SS moniker? I can ask in the forum as it might be happening to others.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 6:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:44am:
I signed up but I am not receiving the confirmation email.. it's not in my spam list either.

Did you successfully sign up there? Cancel that.. I saw your posts.. lol

I used my yahoo email, the same I used in DLF and have tried 3 times to resend the activation email with no luck..



Quote:
SolidSnake uses a Yahoo email, which is problematic. I'm surprised he actually gets some of our Downline Farm emails, as Yahoo blocks anything with words like Downline, affiliate, money, and many other word associated with online businesses.

If anyone else has this problem, use the "Contact us" link at the bottom of this site.
(of course, you can also use the DLF support if you're a DLF member)


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:20pm
I use yahoo mail as well. Never had any problem whatsoever.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd Mar, 2021 at 5:00am

ruicarlov wrote on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:20pm:
I use yahoo mail as well. Never had any problem whatsoever.


Stepping back into the twilight zone.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Mar, 2021 at 5:35pm

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd Mar, 2021 at 9:44am:
I signed up but I am not receiving the confirmation email.. it's not in my spam list either.

Did you successfully sign up there? Cancel that.. I saw your posts.. lol

I used my yahoo email, the same I used in DLF and have tried 3 times to resend the activation email with no luck..


He replied:


Quote:
Hi SolidSnake,
I activated your forum account and sent you an email to let you know, but the email returned as undeliverable.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th Mar, 2021 at 5:53pm
Well.. I am in! :)

i also changed my forum email to my hotmail one and received the confirmation emai just fine.

So, we're good there. I added my avatar and a signature link leading here. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Mar, 2021 at 7:51pm
They added the Leads Leap PPC widgets to the site. It gives us more incentive to promote now. They should get a lot more income from that. If I can generate $2 a week with my traffic, imagine what they can do with theirs. Plus there are many referral benefits to the admin. So I think this will help the site take a step forward.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 29th Mar, 2021 at 1:38am

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Mar, 2021 at 7:51pm:
They added the Leads Leap PPC widgets to the site. It gives us more incentive to promote now. They should get a lot more income from that. If I can generate $2 a week with my traffic, imagine what they can do with theirs. Plus there are many referral benefits to the admin. So I think this will help the site take a step forward.

Is this for DLF or LeadsLeap? (or both) I am somehow not following..  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 29th Mar, 2021 at 3:33am

SolidSnake wrote on 29th Mar, 2021 at 1:38am:
Is this for DLF or LeadsLeap? (or both) I am somehow not following..  :-?

What's he's saying that DLF is now using LeadsLeap. The DLF owner has now added the LeadsLeap ads to his DLF site. Thus giving us the potential to create good synergy with the two programs, DLF and LeadsLeap. I'm sure moneymarketing could explain it further here...

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Mar, 2021 at 6:01am

SolidSnake wrote on 29th Mar, 2021 at 1:38am:
Is this for DLF or LeadsLeap? (or both) I am somehow not following..  :-?


The admin is a member of LL. LL has a PPC widget that you can add to your site to show ads. This is what he has done. You can see it on display (the two ads on the bottom) on the login page. It is also on the splash pages.

https://downlinefarm.com/login.php?s=noauth

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Mar, 2021 at 7:16am
I don't know why but I feel really positive about our industry this year. Either this year or going into the next year, we should start to see some nice things happening to the sites we are members of.

We've sort of treaded water for a few years but I think many of our sites have been building foundations. Those foundations should help to support us and grow. I think we are past many of our mistakes.

:)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 29th Mar, 2021 at 9:08am

moneymarketing wrote on 29th Mar, 2021 at 6:01am:
The admin is a member of LL. LL has a PPC widget that you can add to your site to show ads. This is what he has done. You can see it on display (the two ads on the bottom) on the login page. It is also on the splash pages.

https://downlinefarm.com/login.php?s=noauth

Ok, I saw them now.

They were being blocked but I disabled so they're there now. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th Mar, 2021 at 8:33am
My latest refer is 6881 so we are averaging close to 150 referrals per month now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Mar, 2021 at 7:48am
So even with the Neo ad smartas12 was still able to top me. Since the ROI (referral on investment  ;D) is not great with NB, I don't think I'll spend the money on that. We are starting to pull in more referrals as a site so maybe I'll pull back a bit (or maybe I'm just becoming tight-fisted with my money  :) )

I can't wait to see the results of the LL ads on the site. That should be good too.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 31st Mar, 2021 at 10:19pm
I've registered for the DLF Forum. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Apr, 2021 at 7:36am

dansbanners wrote on 31st Mar, 2021 at 10:19pm:
I've registered for the DLF Forum. 8-)
 

Welcome!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Apr, 2021 at 2:03pm
Just earned another $2.00 top promoter and another $2.96 in profit sharing. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Apr, 2021 at 6:26pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Apr, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Just earned another $2.00 top promoter and another $2.96 in profit sharing. 8-)



Good work.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:47pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Apr, 2021 at 2:03pm:
Just earned another $2.00 top promoter and another $2.96 in profit sharing. 8-)

Good job hitting the top 4!

Also good job @MM hitting the 2nd spot and keeping smartas motivated to advertise more! :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:47pm:
Good job hitting the top 4!

Also good job @MM hitting the 2nd spot and keeping smartas motivated to advertise more! :cool1


I won the referral contest this week too. I was going to pull back on advertising but I might continue to play for the referral contest. It's easier for me to win because I can focus on lower-cost banners and not page views.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:58pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:47pm:
Good job hitting the top 4!

Also good job @MM hitting the 2nd spot and keeping smartas motivated to advertise more! :cool1

Thanks SS. I believe this has been my best showing thus far.  8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:59pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Apr, 2021 at 10:57pm:
I won the referral contest this week too. I was going to pull back on advertising but I might continue to play for the referral contest. It's easier for me to win because I can focus on lower-cost banners and not page views.

Congrats on winning the referral contest!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Apr, 2021 at 8:10am
You've got a good shot at #2 or #3 this time around, Dan.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Apr, 2021 at 8:46pm

moneymarketing wrote on 30th Mar, 2021 at 8:33am:
My latest refer is 6881 so we are averaging close to 150 referrals per month now.


6933 after only 8 days. We might be catching some momentum.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Apr, 2021 at 9:55pm
The BoB exchanger works in the DLF forum.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 14th Apr, 2021 at 11:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Apr, 2021 at 9:55pm:
The BoB exchanger works in the DLF forum.

That's good to know. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Apr, 2021 at 3:33pm
I came in 4th and won another $2. Hey, I take it. 8-)

However, here's the good news. Not only did I learn I just had two new referrals this past week.

But also that one of them also upgraded!!!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Apr, 2021 at 6:11pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Apr, 2021 at 3:33pm:
I came in 4th and won another $2. Hey, I take it. 8-)

However, here's the good news. Not only did I learn I just had two new referrals this past week.

But also that one of them also upgraded!!!

[smiley=12-party.gif]



Awesome news, guy!

And check out this superstar:


Quote:
Winner of the April 1 to 15, 2021 contest:
Username:
ruicarlov (with 39 referrals) Prize: $10.00


I referred 16 and along with Dan's two we referred 57 of the ~77 new referrals at the site in those two weeks. Amazing results.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Apr, 2021 at 6:15pm
And I just did a check. Rui was not in the top twenty so that means he scored 39 referrals with less than 304 hits. That is spectacular accuracy.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Whatever you are doing, keep it up and make more if possible. I hope some of those folks are upgrading.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Apr, 2021 at 6:59pm
Congrats rui on winning the referral contest. And also keep up the great work to the team and all! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 17th Apr, 2021 at 8:04pm
At the risk of repeating myself..... WHAT?  :o

Where did I get 39 referrals these past days? I was on vacation with no reliable internet connection.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2021 at 5:13am

ruicarlov wrote on 17th Apr, 2021 at 8:04pm:
At the risk of repeating myself..... WHAT?  :o

Where did I get 39 referrals these past days? I was on vacation with no reliable internet connection.


Does the tracking at DLF show where you are getting your referrals from?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th Apr, 2021 at 1:16pm
Oh, yeah, didn't think of that.
Most of them come from Goldenclix, it seems. Strange it was such a big spurt in two weeks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Apr, 2021 at 2:36pm
rui,

I think you should just enjoy the success more when it comes. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2021 at 3:19pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th Apr, 2021 at 1:16pm:
Oh, yeah, didn't think of that.
Most of them come from Goldenclix, it seems. Strange it was such a big spurt in two weeks.



Interesting. I wonder why that wasn't put on the preferred site list?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd May, 2021 at 2:00pm
Just found out I got two more referrals!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

I now have 12 referrals total. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd May, 2021 at 1:47am

dansbanners wrote on 2nd May, 2021 at 2:00pm:
Just found out I got two more referrals!

[smiley=12-party.gif]

I now have 12 referrals total. 8-)


Hopefully, we can move some of those into the paid column.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th May, 2021 at 2:19pm
I got another referral! My 13th!

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th May, 2021 at 9:19pm

dansbanners wrote on 9th May, 2021 at 2:19pm:
I got another referral! My 13th!

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]


You and SS are running neck and neck in the points contest. Rui is nowhere to be seen meaning he should have 200 referrals by the 15th.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th May, 2021 at 12:58am

moneymarketing wrote on 9th May, 2021 at 9:19pm:
You and SS are running neck and neck in the points contest. Rui is nowhere to be seen meaning he should have 200 referrals by the 15th.  [smiley=lolx.gif]

May the best horse oops I meant DLF member win... :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th May, 2021 at 7:26pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Mar, 2021 at 9:29pm:
:-?

um....the one I have been bellowing about for months now



::)


I'm giving this banner a shot at Neobux for the first time. I bought a one-week banner. It's been up for ~24 hours and so far I have ten tracked sign-ups. It could be more because I also have a few with a site referral of nothing. So this is very positive. Neo is the next stage of my referring plans as the cash comes in so good results bode well for the future of the site. There are also some big players at Neo and if we can get a few of them promoting there then the compounding of site growth could be very beneficial.

It is also a plus that neo now accepts crypto. I can thus use some of my PTCS earnings to buy ads there and once paypal starts dealing in crypto, then I can transfer crypto straight from PP to Neo and accelerate things even more.  [smiley=12-party.gif] :money 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th May, 2021 at 5:35pm
Last referral = 7128

We are already at 100 for the month. Let's hope the site can hit the 200 mark.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th May, 2021 at 7:08pm

moneymarketing wrote on 13th May, 2021 at 5:35pm:
Last referral = 7128

We are already at 100 for the month. Let's hope the site can hit the 200 mark.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's good. Every little bit helps and counts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th May, 2021 at 1:13am

moneymarketing wrote on 13th May, 2021 at 5:35pm:
Last referral = 7128

We are already at 100 for the month. Let's hope the site can hit the 200 mark.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Most 90 of those are Rui's and even more than most likely he hasn't logged in to DLF since the beginning of the month..  ;D

He'll say he wasn't even running a campaign..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th May, 2021 at 1:18am

SolidSnake wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 1:13am:
Most 90 of those are Rui's and even more than most likely he hasn't logged in to DLF since the beginning of the month..  ;D

He'll say he wasn't even running a campaign..


Not this time, my friend. With my Neo push and my other ads, I've bagged 43 of those. It's been a good two weeks.  ;)

It cost a pretty penny though.  :phew

But I see it as a long-term investment. Or maybe I should call it a reinvestment.  :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th May, 2021 at 12:03pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 1:18am:
Not this time, my friend. With my Neo push and my other ads, I've bagged 43 of those. It's been a good two weeks.  ;)

It cost a pretty penny though.  :phew

But I see it as a long-term investment. Or maybe I should call it a reinvestment.  :)

Now that's a plot-twist..  :cool1

Let us know if they get any upgrades btw. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th May, 2021 at 4:07pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 12:03pm:
Now that's a plot-twist..  :cool1

Let us know if they get any upgrades btw. :)


Probably not for a while. Usually, it takes a while for the Admin emails to convince them to upgrade. The nice part is that once they are in, they usually stay upgraded.

I think we should see a cascade soon though as some of the upgrades approach automatic profitability (moreso on my first position than my second). That would be really cool if that worked.

TBH, I would be happier if more promoted at this point than upgraded. We need to get more people to bring in one or two members. That also helps with the ads on the pages.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 14th May, 2021 at 6:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 1:13am:
Most 90 of those are Rui's and even more than most likely he hasn't logged in to DLF since the beginning of the month..  ;D

He'll say he wasn't even running a campaign..


You must have a crystal ball. Yes, I hadn't logged into DLF this month. I didn't creaty any new campaign this month, and I do have 8 pages of referrals that joined May. If the site shows 10 per page, then yes, I got 80 referrals this month....

:D

This is great running joke...

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by rotate4all.com on 14th May, 2021 at 9:11pm
I don't want to ruin the party here but clearly there is something wrong with their referral-tracking system.
Most likely the referral cookie isn't overwritten properly which is bad news for those promoting this program.

I had the same experience on a different site some years ago. And while I admit it felt good gaining free referrals, do keep in mind that these are at the expense of someone else's budget, who mind you is getting really frustrated that their promoting campaigns are not yielding the expected results.

The tracking script they're using is very outdated and while it was working just fine years ago, it clearly doesn't work right Today. Times change, browsers update and site owners must keep up with the changes.

All in all I still do not recommend promoting this program. It just doesn't "smell" right.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th May, 2021 at 9:38pm

ruicarlov wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 6:53pm:
You must have a crystal ball. Yes, I hadn't logged into DLF this month. I didn't creaty any new campaign this month, and I do have 8 pages of referrals that joined May. If the site shows 10 per page, then yes, I got 80 referrals this month....

:D

This is great running joke...


We are now at 7205 at least, so yes, you could have 80 along with my now 51.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th May, 2021 at 9:49pm

rotate4all.com wrote on 14th May, 2021 at 9:11pm:
I don't want to ruin the party here but clearly there is something wrong with their referral-tracking system.
Most likely the referral cookie isn't overwritten properly which is bad news for those promoting this program.

I had the same experience on a different site some years ago. And while I admit it felt good gaining free referrals, do keep in mind that these are at the expense of someone else's budget, who mind you is getting really frustrated that their promoting campaigns are not yielding the expected results.

The tracking script they're using is very outdated and while it was working just fine years ago, it clearly doesn't work right Today. Times change, browsers update and site owners must keep up with the changes.

All in all I still do not recommend promoting this program. It just doesn't "smell" right.


Yes, you could be right. And it appears that those are probably mine since his referrals seem to explode about the time that my advertising takes off. That said, it is not as bad as you make out because they are going under us in one line. So I would still benefit from my downline growing. Another point is that since we are all under each other on the site, Rui's upgrades will be captured by the profit-sharing system and passed up. So it works together for us anyway. It would be a bit of an issue for others that are referring people but that doesn't seem like a lot of them

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2021 at 10:03am
7241!!

211 in 15 days!

It looks like Neo might be our golden ticket!

[smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th May, 2021 at 1:51pm
Something else that's bothering me after checking the top promoters contest now, is that I think Dan's number dropped.

If I remember correctly he was well above 1000 two days ago and now I only see 700.. have you guys noticed that as well?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th May, 2021 at 1:57pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th May, 2021 at 1:51pm:
Something else that's bothering me after checking the top promoters contest now, is that I think Dan's number dropped.

If I remember correctly he was well above 1000 two days ago and now I only see 700.. have you guys noticed that as well?

Whoa! I didn't till you mentioned it. :o

Now that's definitely a [smiley=sad.gif]

Hmm, what do you suggest we do about it? :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th May, 2021 at 2:12pm
We need to take a "timeout" to all this and rectify this situation. Otherwise, how are we to know it won't happen again, etc?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th May, 2021 at 4:06pm
I'm temporarily pausing the traffic to my DLF links till I get the source for this points reduction as to that I do not want to waste the traffic credits if the points aren't going to count?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2021 at 5:18pm

dansbanners wrote on 15th May, 2021 at 4:06pm:
I'm temporarily pausing the traffic to my DLF links till I get the source for this points reduction as to that I do not want to waste the traffic credits if the points aren't going to count?



I think it is the YGP traffic. Mine dropped also but not as much.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th May, 2021 at 12:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th May, 2021 at 5:18pm:
I think it is the YGP traffic. Mine dropped also but not as much.

Did the admin say something regarding it?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th May, 2021 at 2:20pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th May, 2021 at 12:02pm:
Did the admin say something regarding it?

Nope. Not yet.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th May, 2021 at 5:39pm
7273  :o

243 this month.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th May, 2021 at 10:14pm
That's strange that only 44 of my referrals were recorded for the contest and Rui's do not appear to be there at all.  :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th May, 2021 at 7:57am
https://downlinefarm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=117

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th May, 2021 at 6:32am

moneymarketing wrote on 17th May, 2021 at 7:57am:
https://downlinefarm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=117



meh

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th May, 2021 at 10:06am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th May, 2021 at 6:32am:
meh

Like the Merovingian in the Matrix once said... "Let us find out where this goes."  8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 18th May, 2021 at 12:30pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th May, 2021 at 10:14pm:
That's strange that only 44 of my referrals were recorded for the contest and Rui's do not appear to be there at all.  :-?


Well, the contest was from April 16th to 30th. I should still have 10 refs in that period, but according to the rules only those in the TOP 25 promoter contest can participate. I wasn't in the top 25, so that's why I was excluded.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th May, 2021 at 6:26pm

ruicarlov wrote on 18th May, 2021 at 12:30pm:
Well, the contest was from April 16th to 30th. I should still have 10 refs in that period, but according to the rules only those in the TOP 25 promoter contest can participate. I wasn't in the top 25, so that's why I was excluded.


Oh, that's right. That's kind of a strange rule. How could someone with that many referrals not win the contest? :o


So we are up to 7308 according to my new people. We should hit 300 referrals with no problem this month. Maybe 400. [smiley=12-party.gif]

I'm seriously thinking about going with a big banner ad at Neo. I think I found gold there. This is reminding me of the days at PTCBox, Dan when we had those awesome text ads for CS.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th May, 2021 at 5:30pm
300+!

What a month!  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th May, 2021 at 9:33pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th May, 2021 at 5:30pm:
300+!

What a month!  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif]

So is that a new record? 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th May, 2021 at 6:48am

dansbanners wrote on 24th May, 2021 at 9:33pm:
So is that a new record? 8-)



That's not me, that's how many have joined the site but I think it is the most in one month since I have been a member.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 25th May, 2021 at 8:13am

moneymarketing wrote on 25th May, 2021 at 6:48am:
That's not me, that's how many have joined the site but I think it is the most in one month since I have been a member.

That makes it a record anyways.. at least for us. :)

So, we are all now well above the 5x multiplier! [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's a good job guys! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th May, 2021 at 1:55pm

SolidSnake wrote on 25th May, 2021 at 8:13am:
That makes it a record anyways.. at least for us. :)

So, we are all now well above the 5x multiplier! [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's a good job guys! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yes. That's what I meant. From the team's perspective. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th May, 2021 at 4:51pm

dansbanners wrote on 25th May, 2021 at 1:55pm:
Yes. That's what I meant. From the team's perspective. :)


A lot of people are looking at the 'Marketing ideas to promote DLF' thread at the forum. I hope that produces some great results. They won't post the banner I use at the site but maybe some people will take it from the forum there.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 30th May, 2021 at 8:55am
7396

Can we get 30 in two days?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st May, 2021 at 8:19pm
You made your push into the 10 spot, SS. Good show!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jun, 2021 at 7:31am
2021-05-01 00:01:07      N/A      Profit Sharing      1.16      Paid
2021-06-01 00:01:06      N/A      Profit Sharing      4.28      Unpaid

That's my kind of one-month growth!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

:)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Jun, 2021 at 9:48am

moneymarketing wrote on 31st May, 2021 at 8:19pm:
You made your push into the 10 spot, SS. Good show!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks, somehow till yesterday afternoon my PTCShare campaign was going way too slow, and I thought it wouldn't even happen..

But it was once again probably due to the timezone.. So it kicked in later on, getting me to the 9th spot.. See, I even left an open spot for you!  :P

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Jun, 2021 at 2:13pm
My profit sharing was $3.56. The highest it has been thus far.  8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Jun, 2021 at 3:03pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Jun, 2021 at 2:13pm:
My profit sharing was $3.56. The highest it has been thus far.  8-)

Same here, it's the new multiplier that kicked in!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jun, 2021 at 4:31pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Jun, 2021 at 9:48am:
Thanks, somehow till yesterday afternoon my PTCShare campaign was going way too slow, and I thought it wouldn't even happen..

But it was once again probably due to the timezone.. So it kicked in later on, getting me to the 9th spot.. See, I even left an open spot for you!  :P


I saw you moving so I decided to hold back on any promoting in case there was only one spot.

Don't worry, I made it up with the referral contest.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jun, 2021 at 6:06pm
Neobux is a rich vein of gold. You guys should try to jump on if you can.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Jun, 2021 at 12:05pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Jun, 2021 at 6:06pm:
Neobux is a rich vein of gold. You guys should try to jump on if you can.

What advertising package do you usually use there, and what are the results on DLF?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jun, 2021 at 8:21pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Jun, 2021 at 12:05pm:
What advertising package do you usually use there, and what are the results on DLF?


I have been using my banner and buying 1-week banner spots.


Quote:
For the "View advertisements" page AND the Forum, it costs $12/day and we also have packages with a discount:

1 week = $76
2 weeks = $148
3 weeks = $218
4 weeks = $288
2 months = $550
3 months = $790
6 months = $1480
1 year = $2400


I'm so tempted to go for 6 months. That would greatly reduce my costs but what a huge risk!  :phew

I think I'll put that on my wish list.  ;D

I could do it out of my crypto gains but then I'd have to use up crypto.  :(

So spend $1500 in ETH on this and watch ETH go to 30K or wait until ETH goes to 30K and then spend $2400! I used to have 3 BTC and cashed in on the way up. I don't want to make that mistake again.

That would surely take DLF to the next level. We are so close to being kingmakers.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

So you can see my results in the referral contest. Some of those referrals are from adhitz but most are from neobux. 72 referrals in two weeks!  :o

One banner was placed on the 11th. The next on the 18th so the first one was mostly in the first referral contest period and won that one. And the second was a blowout.

My earnings are approaching $50 per month from my two positions before upgrade costs, so it is not as bad as it looks from an expense perspective. and that advertising is a tax write-off so it's even cheaper after taxes.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jun, 2021 at 7:38pm
I had a chat with the admin. You see what my banner advertising options are regarding NB and I was thinking about going big. Then I had the thought, "What if what happened at CIOB happens here?" Personally, I still think the admin of CIOB took ill somehow.

So I asked the admin if he had a backup plan. He said no.  :-/

RuhRo.

That was somewhat disturbing so we talked a bit about that and he told me that it just hasn't been built. He does plan to have partners in the EZBiz venture but until that is built nothing. So I suggested he at least make a plan where a family member can take care of things and/or sell the business if problems arise.

I was planning on investing thousands into this in the long run but if it is a one-man show and could potentially pop like a bubble, then I don't want to take that risk. I've lost enough to other sites disappearing overnight. There is no point risking that again.

So I've shifted my strategy. I will still use my online earnings to promote the site (I'm thinking one one-week NB banner ad per month) but I'm not going to try and shoot the lights out with a big NB ad until I know the site will not be subject to total collapse. That's the nice thing about the MTV group. We know it won't go away because they have a team in place. Until that becomes apparent at DLF I would advise caution in overspending in an effort to promote it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 16th Jun, 2021 at 11:46pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Jun, 2021 at 7:38pm:
"What if what happened at CIOB happens here?" Personally, I still think the admin of CIOB took ill somehow.


Can you do a recap? What's CIOB and what happened?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Jun, 2021 at 7:24am

ruicarlov wrote on 16th Jun, 2021 at 11:46pm:
Can you do a recap? What's CIOB and what happened?


CIOB=Cash in on Banners.

He had a few sites running and then he just disappeared. I haven't been able to find anything on the web as to what happened to him and I don't have an email. Either his site was pulled because of money issues or my guess is that he took ill and when he no longer supported the site his hosts just canceled him.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Jun, 2021 at 5:04pm

moneymarketing wrote on 16th Jun, 2021 at 7:38pm:
I had a chat with the admin. You see what my banner advertising options are regarding NB and I was thinking about going big. Then I had the thought, "What if what happened at CIOB happens here?" Personally, I still think the admin of CIOB took ill somehow.

So I asked the admin if he had a backup plan. He said no.  :-/

RuhRo.

That was somewhat disturbing so we talked a bit about that and he told me that it just hasn't been built. He does plan to have partners in the EZBiz venture but until that is built nothing. So I suggested he at least make a plan where a family member can take care of things and/or sell the business if problems arise.

I was planning on investing thousands into this in the long run but if it is a one-man show and could potentially pop like a bubble, then I don't want to take that risk. I've lost enough to other sites disappearing overnight. There is no point risking that again.

So I've shifted my strategy. I will still use my online earnings to promote the site (I'm thinking one one-week NB banner ad per month) but I'm not going to try and shoot the lights out with a big NB ad until I know the site will not be subject to total collapse. That's the nice thing about the MTV group. We know it won't go away because they have a team in place. Until that becomes apparent at DLF I would advise caution in overspending in an effort to promote it

You could also say that the DLF owner has been accessible with the forum and all. While you really couldn't say the same with the CIOB owner.

Although like you said, you still don't have to necessarily spend THAT much on DLF. It's your call.

In fairness to CIOB, they did last a long time, for about 10+ years. They were one of the first ones I've joined a while back.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Jun, 2021 at 8:41pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Jun, 2021 at 5:04pm:
You could also say that the DLF owner has been accessible with the forum and all. While you really couldn't say the same with the CIOB owner.

Although like you said, you still don't have to necessarily spend THAT much on DLF. It's your call.

In fairness to CIOB, they did last a long time, for about 10+ years. They were one of the first ones I've joined a while back.


I have zero issues with him except that he is literally a one-man show. If he were to be hit by a car tomorrow the site would freeze up. If we had a substantial dependency on the cash from that site we would be stuck as there is no one else behind the admin curtain. Not a programmer or even a family member that can take over(he has a family but they are not connected to the site).

At this point, we are not dependent so that is why I advised caution due to the admin risk.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Jun, 2021 at 10:39pm
Just noticed that I got 4 more referrals within the last month or so. And now have 17 referrals altogether! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Jun, 2021 at 6:26am

dansbanners wrote on 25th Jun, 2021 at 10:39pm:
Just noticed that I got 4 more referrals within the last month or so. And now have 17 referrals altogether! 8-)


Good work!

We should see another solid month of 150+ referrals.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jul, 2021 at 12:04am
The referral contest will have three prizes this cycle!  :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Jul, 2021 at 1:30am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Jul, 2021 at 12:04am:
The referral contest will have three prizes this cycle!  :money

That's good to know, spread it out more.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Jul, 2021 at 1:56am
~46 new members after 7 days at the site so we are on track for almost 200 new members this month. It seems the site's new member growth is beginning to compound. that is an excellent sign.  ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Jul, 2021 at 1:34pm

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Jul, 2021 at 1:56am:
~46 new members after 7 days at the site so we are on track for almost 200 new members this month. It seems the site's new member growth is beginning to compound. that is an excellent sign.  ;)

That's good to know. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Jul, 2021 at 3:41am
Latest: 7697

So we should top 200 this month no problem.  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Jul, 2021 at 9:42pm
You are holding the line at #10, Dan. Way to go!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Jul, 2021 at 3:08pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Jul, 2021 at 9:42pm:
You are holding the line at #10, Dan. Way to go!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yes. I did come in 10th. Also earned $3.28 in matching bonus for a total of $5.28 in commission! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Jul, 2021 at 3:10pm
I also saw that you just won the referral contest. Way to go moneymarketing! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jul, 2021 at 9:19pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Jul, 2021 at 3:10pm:
I also saw that you just won the referral contest. Way to go moneymarketing! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Thanks. That neobux ad is pure gold.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Jul, 2021 at 6:44am
I just topped 1000 referrals between my two positions.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Jul, 2021 at 1:38pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Jul, 2021 at 6:44am:
I just topped 1000 referrals between my two positions.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's good to know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 24th Jul, 2021 at 10:05pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Jul, 2021 at 3:41am:
Latest: 7697

So we should top 200 this month no problem.  [smiley=12-party.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


7803 with 7 days to go still!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jul, 2021 at 10:24pm
I'm sure you've all seen this or will if you check your mail. This may actually prove to be good as it will give people the option of using their earnings. It was as easy as flipping a switch apparently so why wasn't he doing it before?  :(


Quote:
Valued Downline Farm members,
our Stripe payments account has been cancelled.

Stripe has informed us that they have classified Downline Farm as a Network Marketing company, and since they do not accept such companies, they are closing our account.

We still accept PayPal and ORU (GIZMOH).

For your convenience we have enabled the "Pay With Your Commissions" option.

If you have at least $7.00 in commissions you will be able to use those commissions to upgrade.

If you have already paid using Stripe, you will have to wait until your current upgrade ends before you can switch to PayPal, ORU or Pay-with-commissions.

We apologize for the inconvenience.
We are looking to add more payment options for both Upgrading and commissions payouts.

We have survived the PayPal restrictions, the Payza closure, the pandemic lockdowns and recession. We will get over this new obstacle and probably come out stronger.

When it comes to obstacles, there's two types of people:
Those who let the obstacle stop them, and those who Overcome the obstacles and emerge stronger from the experience.

Which are you?

Thank you for being a part of the Downline Farm family,
Roberto Santana

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 28th Jul, 2021 at 12:37am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Jul, 2021 at 10:24pm:
I'm sure you've all seen this or will if you check your mail. This may actually prove to be good as it will give people the option of using their earnings. It was as easy as flipping a switch apparently so why wasn't he doing it before?  :(

We even asked for that, didn't we?

I can't really recall. Well, it's something we wanted.. :)

Too bad for the Stripe news. I hope it won't turn off many members.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Aug, 2021 at 2:44pm
Came in 10th again, got another $2 plus another $3.43 in profit sharing. Also got my 19th referral! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Aug, 2021 at 4:05am

dansbanners wrote on 1st Aug, 2021 at 2:44pm:
Came in 10th again, got another $2 plus another $3.43 in profit sharing. Also got my 19th referral! 8-)



Good work! Third place in the referral contest only got 2 and second place got 3 so you are not far from earning money in that contest also.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I just realized that if I could convert all my 1k referrals, that would be $700 a month in income.  :o

That's pretty good cash.  :mon_eyes Now If only I could convince him to bring in that PIF.  :-/

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Aug, 2021 at 1:22pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Aug, 2021 at 4:05am:
Good work! Third place in the referral contest only got 2 and second place got 3 so you are not far from earning money in that contest also.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I just realized that if I could convert all my 1k referrals, that would be $700 a month in income.  :o

That's pretty good cash.  :mon_eyes Now If only I could convince him to bring in that PIF.  :-/

Thanks. Yeah, that would be nice. BTW, congrats on winning the referral contest again! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Aug, 2021 at 3:10pm
rui + SS,

Did you receive the latest email from DLF sent out around August 7th?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 13th Aug, 2021 at 12:07pm

dansbanners wrote on 12th Aug, 2021 at 3:10pm:
rui + SS,

Did you receive the latest email from DLF sent out around August 7th?

I received at least one but we might have got them through a different timeline.

What's the specific subject of the email you'd like me to check?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th Aug, 2021 at 3:00pm

SolidSnake wrote on 13th Aug, 2021 at 12:07pm:
I received at least one but we might have got them through a different timeline.

What's the specific subject of the email you'd like me to check?

Are you aware of their latest payment processor issue?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Aug, 2021 at 10:57am

dansbanners wrote on 13th Aug, 2021 at 3:00pm:
Are you aware of their latest payment processor issue?


If you mean the announcement regarding Stripe, it was discussed just a bit earlier in this thread:
https://www.ptcbox.me/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1549159888/641#641

Personally I hadn't even noticed they were using Stripe for payments..
I thought it was just PayPal and Oru.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Aug, 2021 at 3:11pm
I got paid! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Aug, 2021 at 6:56pm

dansbanners wrote on 19th Aug, 2021 at 3:11pm:
I got paid! 8-)

Me too, I've just ordered two pizzas using that balance.. :P  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Aug, 2021 at 12:24am

dansbanners wrote on 19th Aug, 2021 at 3:11pm:
I got paid! 8-)


Yup!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Aug, 2021 at 5:39pm
I got another referral, my 20th. 8-)

Interestingly, I got this one from Buckets of Banners. Whereas we do benefit from each click to the DLF banner anyway.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Sep, 2021 at 3:36am
$4.24 in profit-sharing this month. Not bad.

And everyone who joined last month has 272 new affiliates under them. That's enough to get the first share multiplier in one month. I think it took 3 or 4 for us to get to that when we first started.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Sep, 2021 at 9:31am
I suddenly got the message "Your Email Is Banned" while attempting to login.. have you guys ever experienced that?

I've contacted the admin and I'm waiting for his reply on it..

I didn't even insert my password as it's automatically filled by my browser, so there's no way I mistyped it or anything.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 14th Sep, 2021 at 1:53pm

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Sep, 2021 at 9:31am:
I suddenly got the message "Your Email Is Banned" while attempting to login.. have you guys ever experienced that?

I've contacted the admin and I'm waiting for his reply on it..

I didn't even insert my password as it's automatically filled by my browser, so there's no way I mistyped it or anything.

I just checked and had no trouble logging in. BTW, I use my username not email address to login.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 14th Sep, 2021 at 6:50pm

dansbanners wrote on 14th Sep, 2021 at 1:53pm:
I just checked and had no trouble logging in. BTW, I use my username not email address to login.


Me also. I tried with my email and it took me back to the login page. Try your username

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 14th Sep, 2021 at 7:17pm

moneymarketing wrote on 14th Sep, 2021 at 6:50pm:
Me also. I tried with my email and it took me back to the login page. Try your username

Right. I think it may have been a case of that SS tried logging in with his email but may have forgotten that he was supposed to login with his username instead.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Sep, 2021 at 12:15am
I have been logging in with my username, so that's not the issue..

I got a reply from the admin on the case:

Quote:
We've never had a problem with it either, but our Hosting provider has.

They told me that if I didn't install a Bounced email handler they would
have to cancel my account. Part of that is banning the emails that come
back to us as undeliverable.

We've been getting thousands of bounced emails per month, and it's
causing the hosting company big problems with spam regulators.

We had over 500 members with problematic emails. Our biggest problem
was emails that no longer exist. But after that Yahoo was causing the most
bounced emails.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but it's either this or stop sending emails
all together or get shut down by our hosting provider.

Best regards,
Roberto

I've asked him to replace it with a Gmail of mine and I'm waiting for his reply, so I'll keep you up to date.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 15th Sep, 2021 at 10:40pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Sep, 2021 at 12:15am:
I have been logging in with my username, so that's not the issue..

I got a reply from the admin on the case:
I've asked him to replace it with a Gmail of mine and I'm waiting for his reply, so I'll keep you up to date.

So, it all worked out just fine.

I logged in to my account and everything is in its place untouched referrals/balance and all.
If you have a yahoo email in your DLF account it's better to switch it to something else.

What bugged me is if there was a warning that this would happen, I remember him saying that it's better to not use a Yahoo email, but I can't recall anything about an upcoming ban to all yahoo users on DLF..

What if people don't bother contacting him for an email switch..? We would lose a lot.
Thankfully it all went fine with my account.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th Sep, 2021 at 11:43pm

SolidSnake wrote on 15th Sep, 2021 at 10:40pm:
So, it all worked out just fine.

I logged in to my account and everything is in its place untouched referrals/balance and all.
If you have a yahoo email in your DLF account it's better to switch it to something else.

What bugged me is if there was a warning that this would happen, I remember him saying that it's better to not use a Yahoo email, but I can't recall anything about an upcoming ban to all yahoo users on DLF..

What if people don't bother contacting him for an email switch..? We would lose a lot.
Thankfully it all went fine with my account.

Glad to hear that it has worked out for you.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Sep, 2021 at 5:47pm
Just got another referral. My 21st. Also, just earned another $6.60 in commissions from the promoter's contest and matching bonuses. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Sep, 2021 at 1:43am

dansbanners wrote on 16th Sep, 2021 at 5:47pm:
Just got another referral. My 21st. Also, just earned another $6.60 in commissions from the promoter's contest and matching bonuses. 8-)


Good Job!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 25th Sep, 2021 at 2:24am

Quote:
We have removed Mind Capital from our Income Programs downline builder.

Mind Capital is no longer reimbursing your investments as per their promises.

They are not responding to Support emails either.

Mind Capital was a great program for their first year, but have steadily deteriorated to the point where they are operating more as a scam than a legit investment opportunity.

Your best bet for aquireing Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is our "Money FRom Nothing" system, which you can find in your DLF Downloads page.

As for buying Bitcoin, you won't find a better, cheaper and easier way to do that than with Swan Bitcoin, which you can find on the Shop DLF page.

Have a great weekend,
Roberto Santana


We warned him. This is why you can't be dependent on third-party companies for your site's income. The larger your cash flow gets the greater the chance they cut you out.

He needs to focus on generating income at his own site as a top priority and using other site income as gravy.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Oct, 2021 at 4:54pm
Just earned $3.83 in profit sharing, the highest profit sharing I've earned thus far. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Oct, 2021 at 5:09am
Good to see Rui is banking those first place referral bonuses in my place. Now that I am focusing on R4A, that leaves opportunity in DLF for someone else. That someone else is our teammate. And even when I pulled back on promoting, we still gained 200 more new members.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

It looks like our DLF "lottery tickets" will pay off. 8-) :money [smiley=13-latin.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Oct, 2021 at 5:13am

dansbanners wrote on 1st Oct, 2021 at 4:54pm:
Just earned $3.83 in profit sharing, the highest profit sharing I've earned thus far. 8-)


It's really cool how if you just plug in and let it grow, it will play out for you. If only we could help others understand that. Sooner or later the right "explainer" will come along. :)

Congrats on your gains [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Oct, 2021 at 2:20pm
I also have another gold member in my downline in addition to rui. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Oct, 2021 at 10:51pm

dansbanners wrote on 2nd Oct, 2021 at 2:20pm:
I also have another gold member in my downline in addition to rui. 8-)


Good to hear. That will add to your multiplier. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Oct, 2021 at 1:54pm
I just got $4.79 in matching bonuses. A new record for me. 8-) 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 16th Oct, 2021 at 3:49pm

dansbanners wrote on 16th Oct, 2021 at 1:54pm:
I just got $4.79 in matching bonuses. A new record for me. 8-) 

Good job!

Also congrats on getting 6th on the top promoter contest.

I was right behind you, so we both got a $2 bonus!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Oct, 2021 at 8:21pm

SolidSnake wrote on 16th Oct, 2021 at 3:49pm:
Good job!

Also congrats on getting 6th on the top promoter contest.

I was right behind you, so we both got a $2 bonus!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Thanks. Good for you also SS for also getting a $2 bonus!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Nov, 2021 at 4:41pm
Just got another referral! My 22nd! 8-)

Interestingly, from YGP. My 2nd one from there.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 21st Nov, 2021 at 2:00pm
Just got another referral! My 23rd! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Nov, 2021 at 10:15pm

dansbanners wrote on 21st Nov, 2021 at 2:00pm:
Just got another referral! My 23rd! 8-)


Good Job. I'm not doing much promoting at the moment but do plan on using the bulk pure ads at PTCS soon. I just need to build up the money for credits.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Nov, 2021 at 10:48pm
From the DLF owner...

Quote:
Hi Downline Farm family,
here's wishing all of you a Happy Thanksgiving Day and weekend.

We have gone through a very tough 2 years, but we still have plenty to be thankful for. You just have to look around you to see it.

We have added our yearly Christmas Bonus to the profit sharing pool. (see the "Statistics" page, under Site Navigation)

So if you are an upgraded Gold member, you can expect a little extra bump in your profit sharing commissions next month.

And if you have Upgraded referrals, you will also see a higher Matching Bonus on the 15th.

If you are still a free member, this is a great time to upgrade.

We will hold our admin AIOP and LeadsLeap commissions, and let them build up another month, and add them to the December profit sharing pool. That will make the January commissions a little higher.

Thank you for being a valued member of Downline Farm,

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 1st Dec, 2021 at 4:09pm
Not to go more off-topic on the other topic, what changed about that contests that got moneymarketing in a bad mood?

Btw, I was a couple of months without logging in to DLF since my email was not being accepted. So it was a bit of a surprise to see those 1st place wins. But somehow that's how it's been working this whole time.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Dec, 2021 at 10:42pm

ruicarlov wrote on 1st Dec, 2021 at 4:09pm:
Not to go more off-topic on the other topic, what changed about that contests that got moneymarketing in a bad mood?

Btw, I was a couple of months without logging in to DLF since my email was not being accepted. So it was a bit of a surprise to see those 1st place wins. But somehow that's how it's been working this whole time.  :dontknow



The referral contest is gone. The promotion contest has gone from $10, $5, $3 for 1,2,3 to $3, $3, $3.

Based on my own data people are dropping out from upgrades.

I don't have a lot of confidence about the site at this point. Personally, I'm still making a profit but it doesn't feel like we are getting anywhere.

My Spidey sense is tingling is what I'm saying and I'm a bat. ;D

In general, too, I've totally lost confidence in referring. I only bought that black Friday sale because I thought I could make a profit on those hits but I don't have much faith in referring anymore  :-/

Maybe it's just a funk I'm in or maybe something is about to break through  :dontknow

That elusive compound growth curve still fails to materialize and I'm tired of believing in this industry anymore

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 4th Dec, 2021 at 1:16am
Here we go. Another lecture:


Quote:
This is a quick reminder that Downline Farm is a DOWNLINE BUILDER. And as such, your very best option to earn money with us is to use DLF to build a downline in our Main program.

Many of you are using DLF as a straight up income program, and while that is OK, we were not Designed to be your main income source, but to help you build your downlines in your main program.

Because we promote our main flagship program, both within DLF and through outside advertising, not only will YOU get the most out of DLF by joining our flagship program, we will All get the most from DLF if more members join.


OK, here is a question. If the main site isn't producing income why wouldn't we just promote the sites in our downline builder? He may call the site a downline builder but it hasn't done a very good job of that for me. I don't know about you guys but the site doesn't produce in its supposed core function. So if it doesn't do that and it doesn't produce income, what is the point?

I'm not saying I'm going to quit, I'm just having an issue with the admin's supposed site philosophy.  :(

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 4th Dec, 2021 at 4:55pm
I think the owner should sit back and consider its future a bit.

DLF is a site that is still running on a super old and unsafe script, however it's still on a growing curve with many members signing up for it.
So it still has a lot of potential provided that he invests some effort, and performs a bunch of polishing to it.

There are many bugs to solve, many visual improvements to make in order to bring it up to date.
It's been pointed out multiple times by Ivan, that members are missing out on both promoting and referring people to it due to technical issues that are potentially easy to fix.

If nothing changes people will eventually lose their interest, leave it behind and move on, but if the admin decides to get a bit invested to it and take advantage of it properly, it should work out..

Until that happens, I'll just keep it on autopilot since it's still generating a profit for me, with just a few practically free campaigns per month. It still pays my monthly mobile phone/data bills, so I'm happy with that. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Dec, 2021 at 9:56pm

SolidSnake wrote on 4th Dec, 2021 at 4:55pm:
Until that happens, I'll just keep it on autopilot since it's still generating a profit for me, with just a few practically free campaigns per month. It still pays my monthly mobile phone/data bills, so I'm happy with that. :)

Yes. Autopilot is a good word to use in here. Which is kinda my approach too at this point. I just leave the $7 in paypal from earnings generated from other programs to pay for the upgrade and go from there... :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 5th Dec, 2021 at 12:14am

SolidSnake wrote on 4th Dec, 2021 at 4:55pm:
I think the owner should sit back and consider its future a bit.

DLF is a site that is still running on a super old and unsafe script, however it's still on a growing curve with many members signing up for it.
So it still has a lot of potential provided that he invests some effort, and performs a bunch of polishing to it.

There are many bugs to solve, many visual improvements to make in order to bring it up to date.
It's been pointed out multiple times by Ivan, that members are missing out on both promoting and referring people to it due to technical issues that are potentially easy to fix.

If nothing changes people will eventually lose their interest, leave it behind and move on, but if the admin decides to get a bit invested to it and take advantage of it properly, it should work out..

Until that happens, I'll just keep it on autopilot since it's still generating a profit for me, with just a few practically free campaigns per month. It still pays my monthly mobile phone/data bills, so I'm happy with that. :)


I recall you even offered to do some work for him for barter but he declined. I don't know if it is trust issues or what but he is not helping himself. The site is a fantastic concept but it does come down to execution. we almost lost the paidverts group of sites because of that.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jan, 2022 at 3:11pm
Profit-sharing has bounced back nicely this month. This is my older account:


Quote:
2022-01-01 00:01:06      N/A      Profit Sharing      7.28


That's good. That covers my upgrade for the month on that account. It was a good month. With commissions, matching bonuses, and everything else my total earnings on two accounts are just over $35 and my net is over $20. I'm not sure why I was so cranky at them before as our seniority seems to be covering over a lot of wrongs. $20 profit for basically doing nothing is still a positive and it seems to be growing.

Also, as Dan said, my commissions will pay for that huge ad I bought so even if I'm only winning $3 every 15 days, I'll still make a profit on it from the site.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Jan, 2022 at 7:22am
I think he stopped reporting member counts.


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Jan, 2022 at 11:30pm
Has anyone tried the CryptoTab browser?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Jan, 2022 at 1:55pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Jan, 2022 at 11:30pm:
Has anyone tried the CryptoTab browser?

I have tried it for a while in the past, but it wasn't worth it at all..
Prices have changed a lot now though, so I did some research on it and it seems not much has changed with its actual effectiveness.

What people say about it is that basically you get to mine Monero for the owners and they keep 98% of it while giving you back a 2% of that in BTC. That means they basically use your device and electricity for their own benefit, so I wouldn't recommend it.

There are better ways to earn, even trading BTC would most likely provide a higher probability to profit..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Jan, 2022 at 11:24pm

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Jan, 2022 at 1:55pm:
I have tried it for a while in the past, but it wasn't worth it at all..
Prices have changed a lot now though, so I did some research on it and it seems not much has changed with its actual effectiveness.

What people say about it is that basically you get to mine Monero for the owners and they keep 98% of it while giving you back a 2% of that in BTC. That means they basically use your device and electricity for their own benefit, so I wouldn't recommend it.

There are better ways to earn, even trading BTC would most likely provide a higher probability to profit..

I asked cause that's what the DLF owner is trying to do, encourage more DLF members to try the CryptoTab browser?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Jan, 2022 at 12:29am

dansbanners wrote on 18th Jan, 2022 at 11:24pm:
I asked cause that's what the DLF owner is trying to do, encourage more DLF members to try the CryptoTab browser?

Yeap, I got that email too, it's ok if you feel like trying it.

Just keep an eye on the electricity consumption if it's a desktop computer, or your device battery drain time if on mobile/tablet.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Jan, 2022 at 3:28pm

dansbanners wrote on 17th Jan, 2022 at 11:30pm:
Has anyone tried the CryptoTab browser?


No, I don't trust them and based on what SS was saying, it looks like a rip-off.

I wonder why the admin isn't recommending paidverts and PTCS to members? He would get a good commission from that. He also doesn't want to recommend R4A. Also another consistent earner. When you shun some of the biggest companies in the industry, I get suspicious.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Feb, 2022 at 4:51pm

Quote:
Total Members End of  January, 2022 = 8661
Value of each share for January, 2022 = $0.305739.
***************
Total Members End of  November, 2021 = 8522
Value of each share for November, 2021 = $0.483009.


My first paid position is doing OK still. The second is struggling. The two together are above water

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Feb, 2022 at 4:57am
I got a new referral. My 24th. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Feb, 2022 at 8:49pm
Just got another referral. My 25th! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 17th Feb, 2022 at 3:57am
I also just learned that one of my new referrals had just purchased the gold membership. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Feb, 2022 at 11:05am

dansbanners wrote on 17th Feb, 2022 at 3:57am:
I also just learned that one of my new referrals had just purchased the gold membership. 8-)

That's awesome! :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Feb, 2022 at 12:56am

dansbanners wrote on 17th Feb, 2022 at 3:57am:
I also just learned that one of my new referrals had just purchased the gold membership. 8-)



Congrats of the upgrade and the referrals!  :D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Feb, 2022 at 1:09am

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Feb, 2022 at 12:56am:
Congrats of the upgrade and the referrals!  :D

Thanks moneymarketing & SS! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 1st Mar, 2022 at 9:09am
Congrats on being on the top 10 list of the contest again guys!

What is the ID of your latest signed-up referral?
Just to get a clue of where the site stands at its growth level..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Mar, 2022 at 7:25pm

SolidSnake wrote on 1st Mar, 2022 at 9:09am:
Congrats on being on the top 10 list of the contest again guys!

Congrats to you SS as well! 8-)


SolidSnake wrote on 1st Mar, 2022 at 9:09am:
What is the ID of your latest signed-up referral? Just to get a clue of where the site stands at its growth level..

Hmm, how would I know what's the ID of my latest signed-up referral? I'm not seeing that info in the referral list? :-?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 2nd Mar, 2022 at 10:35am

dansbanners wrote on 1st Mar, 2022 at 7:25pm:
Congrats to you SS as well! 8-)

Hmm, how would I know what's the ID of my latest signed-up referral? I'm not seeing that info in the referral list? :-?

Thanks!

You can see it here:


Just by clicking this link shown in the picture, it opens a pop-up with a url that contains the referral ID here:

https://downlinefarm.com/referral_sales.php?ref=XXXX

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Mar, 2022 at 1:59pm

SolidSnake wrote on 2nd Mar, 2022 at 10:35am:
Thanks!

You can see it here:


Just by clicking this link shown in the picture, it opens a pop-up with a url that contains the referral ID here:

https://downlinefarm.com/referral_sales.php?ref=XXXX

Ok, my latest is 8685, signup date 2/16. Thanks SS! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 6:18am
Whoa!

It looks like promotion has collapsed!  :(


Quote:
Total Members End of  February, 2022 = 8699
Value of each share for February, 2022 = $0.297691.
***************
Total Members End of  January, 2022 = 8661
Value of each share for January, 2022 = $0.305739.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 6:23am

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 6:18am:
Whoa!

It looks like promotion has collapsed!  :(


The AIOP earnings aren't doing much either. I tried to tell him that most people won't or can't 'build websites' or have the money to pay $10 per month. Those tools AIOP provides are useless to most in the industry he should be targeting.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 2:10pm
moneymarketing,

Where did you get that info?

Quote:
Total Members End of  February, 2022 = 8699
Value of each share for February, 2022 = $0.297691.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 9:22pm

dansbanners wrote on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 2:10pm:
moneymarketing,

Where did you get that info?


"Site Navigation" -> "Statistics"

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Mar, 2022 at 2:24am

ruicarlov wrote on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 9:22pm:
"Site Navigation" -> "Statistics"

Ok, thanks.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Mar, 2022 at 1:58pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Mar, 2022 at 6:18am:
Whoa!

It looks like promotion has collapsed!  :(

To be fair, when I took a look at the stats, going back a year or so, I'm seeing that it had its ups and downs.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 7th Mar, 2022 at 3:13am
So if I could fix the site, what would I do? I think he should focus on upgrades. If bringing in a PIF system to do it then I would add that. And get more payment options apart from Paypal. Paypal is so limiting and they could cut him off at any moment

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th Mar, 2022 at 3:19pm
What's coupon connect ORU?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Mar, 2022 at 2:17am

dansbanners wrote on 7th Mar, 2022 at 3:19pm:
What's coupon connect ORU?



It's a payment processor that charges a monthly fee to use. So if you only make a little money from the site they will take a huge portion of it. IMO it's a scam that is making money off your payments. Since so many payment processors are based on commissions on payments, I can't see how they can possibly compete in the marketplace. Another poor choice by the admin IMO

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Mar, 2022 at 1:56pm
Perhaps, maybe they could add Skrill?

Otherwise, there comes a point where we know we probably can't change him. Then what's the point of harping on all the negativity? We might as well just continue to make the most out of it in a "whatever we can get out of the program" sense...

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Mar, 2022 at 8:20pm

dansbanners wrote on 8th Mar, 2022 at 1:56pm:
Perhaps, maybe they could add Skrill?

Otherwise, there comes a point where we know we probably can't change him. Then what's the point of harping on all the negativity? We might as well just continue to make the most out of it in a "whatever we can get out of the program" sense...


I thought part of the point of this forum was that we would warn ourselves and others of potentially risky sites so as not to be burned or waste our time on them. This site was good with good potential when we jumped in but it is slowly creeping into the waste of time category at least

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 9th Mar, 2022 at 1:34am
Well, with the instability of the current world, it's hard to find a "stable" income source anyways..

Of course poor choices lead to poor consequences.. but I think DLF is not there, at least not yet.
It's still generating profits on auto-pilot, small ones for sure, but it also never promised huge (apart from boasting a bit in their homepage).

It's also true that PayPal and Oru are not the best options out there, but well.. DLF has managed to get through them for this long.
Maybe it's just that it's keeping a low profile that helps.. no huge transactions, not too many per month, and works on a recurrent paments basis.. so it kind of flies below the radar.

I'd love to see more payment options / PIF / design refresh / bug fixing / advertising potential improvements.. etc.
But I'm happy with what it delivers every month as is, even though I wouldn't make big plans with it.  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Mar, 2022 at 1:56am

SolidSnake wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 1:34am:
But I'm happy with what it delivers every month as is, even though I wouldn't make big plans with it.  :dontknow

Exactly! Keep it simple! In a way, we've got nothing to lose, but possibly something to gain. You never know, we may also be surprised and actually benefit more from the program than expected.





Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Mar, 2022 at 4:40am

SolidSnake wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 1:34am:
Well, with the instability of the current world, it's hard to find a "stable" income source anyways..

Of course poor choices lead to poor consequences.. but I think DLF is not there, at least not yet.
It's still generating profits on auto-pilot, small ones for sure, but it also never promised huge (apart from boasting a bit in their homepage).

It's also true that PayPal and Oru are not the best options out there, but well.. DLF has managed to get through them for this long.
Maybe it's just that it's keeping a low profile that helps.. no huge transactions, not too many per month, and works on a recurrent paments basis.. so it kind of flies below the radar.

I'd love to see more payment options / PIF / design refresh / bug fixing / advertising potential improvements.. etc.
But I'm happy with what it delivers every month as is, even though I wouldn't make big plans with it.  :dontknow


It seems to have taken a turn for the worst. If recruiters have stopped promoting, then people's earnings will stop growing and this will compound on itself. I know I could increase the referral count by 50 per month single-handedly but it would take money. If the admin is not willing to spend that much money on his own site, that tells you a lot. Two or three years should have produced traffic for him at other sites. He claimed to have hundreds of referrals in his organization at Leads Leap. That should be producing income or at least traffic and referrals. He should have compounded that at his own site but apparently, he is not been doing that.

He has access to statistics and the sources of all his sign-ups. That would give him an edge above all his affiliates as to what the most lucrative traffic sources are. All his earning from the site above expenses should be poured into that. He should be his #1 affiliate

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Mar, 2022 at 2:04pm
But like I said, that if you look back at the stats, it actually shows that it has its ups and downs. Thus there's always a possibility it could thus improve again.

If you have some concerns, you could always just spend less on promoting the program. Otherwise, you're only hurting yourself by being more negative than you have to be. SS and I are taking it in stride, just thinking along the lines of "as long we're still taking out more, than what we're putting in", we have nothing to lose but possibly some to gain...

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Mar, 2022 at 2:06pm
Perhaps, maybe also change some of your thinking from hoping you'll make it BIG with the program to just "get whatever you can get from the program, as long you're still taking out more than what you're putting in for as long as you can with nothing to lose, but possibly something or even more to gain..." 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Mar, 2022 at 10:33pm

dansbanners wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 2:04pm:
But like I said, that if you look back at the stats, it actually shows that it has its ups and downs. Thus there's always a possibility it could thus improve again.

If you have some concerns, you could always just spend less on promoting the program. Otherwise, you're only hurting yourself by being more negative than you have to be. SS and I are taking it in stride, just thinking along the lines of "as long we're still taking out more, than what we're putting in", we have nothing to lose but possibly some to gain...


Actually, I have pulled back on my advertising. The only thing that is really running now is some older ads. I won't be spending any more money to advertise, there is no point. There is nothing to win in the referral contest and there is no positive ROI from referring. So, as I said, the negative compounding is happening.

I think the next announcement will be something regarding money and payouts. It could happen soon if he is supporting the site with offline money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 9th Mar, 2022 at 10:36pm

dansbanners wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 2:06pm:
Perhaps, maybe also change some of your thinking from hoping you'll make it BIG with the program to just "get whatever you can get from the program, as long you're still taking out more than what you're putting in for as long as you can with nothing to lose, but possibly something or even more to gain..." 


No, I'm not hoping to make it big. He has kind of wrecked that possibility. What I have to lose is wasted time. Fortunately, much of what we do is automated so we don't need to spend much time making the money we do. It is set it and forget it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Mar, 2022 at 11:14pm

moneymarketing wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 10:36pm:
No, I'm not hoping to make it big. He has kind of wrecked that possibility. What I have to lose is wasted time. Fortunately, much of what we do is automated so we don't need to spend much time making the money we do. It is set it and forget it

Exactly! As long we're also earning commissions and so forth. And if we also get some referrals or even upgrades then it's a bonus!

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Mar, 2022 at 1:46am

dansbanners wrote on 9th Mar, 2022 at 11:14pm:
Exactly! As long we're also earning commissions and so forth. And if we also get some referrals or even upgrades then it's a bonus!


As long as everyone knows that red flags are starting to pop up.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:02am

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Mar, 2022 at 1:46am:
As long as everyone knows that red flags are starting to pop up.

Again, why you gotta make that statement? You've got nothing to lose and possibly something to gain if you do NOT make that statement. But you've definitely got something to lose if you DO make that statement. I still don't understand your logic. I guess we can just agree to disagree here.  ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:04am
Let's say you're on a hockey team. Do you think your team is more likely to win or lose with a "our team is going down, down, down...?". Exactly! Sometime it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:06am
I mean seriously what's so wrong with the following statement:


Quote:
Exactly! As long we're also earning commissions and so forth. And if we also get some referrals or even upgrades then it's a bonus!

Why can't you just leave it as it is without doing a "but...", etc?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:22am

dansbanners wrote on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:06am:
I mean seriously what's so wrong with the following statement:

Why can't you just leave it as it is without doing a "but...", etc?


You're right. Who cares if someone comes along and joins the site, upgrades, spends a ton of money on advertising right before it crashes. Or worse yet, the admin absconds with money owed to people. It's not like that has ever happened in our industry. Let's all just be a bunch of weasels and think for ourselves. As long as we are making bank and getting paid.

No wonder no one invests in this industry or trusts anyone  ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 1:52pm
We're not necessarily asking them to spend a lot of money. They could simply either join for free or just spend $7 to upgrade.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 1:53pm
Besides the admin has been paying the commissions all along, also on a monthly basis and so forth.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Mar, 2022 at 2:04pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Mar, 2022 at 3:22am:
Who cares if someone comes along and joins the site, upgrades, spends a ton of money on advertising

Besides we also know from experience that most referrals don't even do the above. So I don't even think you have much to worry about. And even if they do, it's still on them. And you never know, it could still make the program get better again? ;)

Reading between the lines, perhaps maybe you're a little :censored that you did spend a lot of money, etc... But even if that's the case I'd think the better logic would be "I still hope I get some or more of it back...". Rather than just risk blowing it all away. You could also always just learn from experience and just not do it as much in the future.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Mar, 2022 at 1:15am

dansbanners wrote on 10th Mar, 2022 at 2:04pm:
Besides we also know from experience that most referrals don't even do the above. So I don't even think you have much to worry about. And even if they do, it's still on them. And you never know, it could still make the program get better again? ;)

Reading between the lines, perhaps maybe you're a little :censored that you did spend a lot of money, etc... But even if that's the case I'd think the better logic would be "I still hope I get some or more of it back...". Rather than just risk blowing it all away. You could also always just learn from experience and just not do it as much in the future.


You sound like you are rationalizing. You say the admin hasn't stopped paying and this is true. That is always the way until things just end. He has already pulled back on contest payouts which is a sign things are not going forward. I believe he is a person of integrity but we have dealt with those types before. Integrity usually leaves the minute the cash flow stops.

I'm not mad about what I've spent on advertising. I earned the money online and I spent it online. It wasn't money I needed and I was more than prepared to lose anything I spent. That is the attitude we need to take in this industry with a 90%+ failure rate. If we haven't learned that yet, then there is little hope for us.

This is just one more example of why I won't spend offline money on this industry and am coming to the point where I won't spend online money. Thanks to the bitcoin boom, I have made a profit overall but instead of becoming a viable online business, it remains a hobby. You may say I'm negative but most people would have quit a long time ago. I'm a team player in that I will quit when the buzzer goes at the end of the game even if we are down twelve goals. Many would say that makes me a fool.

That doesn't mean I won't yell at the coach or teammates when they refuse to do things that will help us win "because they know better than a lowly affiliate". And if someone is doing something that will get them hurt or discouraged, I'm going to warn them. If that makes me negative, then so be it. I've put a lot more in that I took out for these sites. I'm not responsible for their failure. And if a site is doing something that is taking us down the fail path, then I want it to fail hard and fast. That way it will be out of the way sooner and we can move on to the next potential contestant

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Mar, 2022 at 5:45am
Let's say you've invested in a stock. You'd want others to buy shares of the stock this way the value of your shares would go up. Yet, according to your logic it seems almost as if you're hoping that you'll "buy high and sell low". ::)

The way I look at it, I've already invested in the program. Might as well continue earning dividends from it... ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Mar, 2022 at 6:33am

dansbanners wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 5:45am:
Let's say you've invested in a stock. You'd want others to buy shares of the stock this way the value of your shares would go up. Yet, according to your logic it seems almost as if you're hoping that you'll "buy high and sell low". ::)

The way I look at it, I've already invested in the program. Might as well continue earning dividends from it... ;)


If the stock is of any value I wouldn't have to convince them to buy it unless it is a true loser. A sound company sells itself. Do you see anyone needing to hype up R4A or PTCS?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Mar, 2022 at 2:13pm

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 6:33am:
If the stock is of any value I wouldn't have to convince them to buy it unless it is a true loser. A sound company sells itself. Do you see anyone needing to hype up R4A or PTCS?

And if there are people that wants to buy the stock let them!  ::)

Actually, I never thought highly of PTCS. I even think more highly of DLF than I do of PTCS. Haven't even been a member of PTCS for quite some time. And also always thought it was much easier to make some $$$ with DLF than with PTCS.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Mar, 2022 at 2:19pm

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 1:15am:
That way it will be out of the way sooner and we can move on to the next potential contestant

I've got news for you. I ain't going to be joining any more new programs at this point. I'm just going to ride with this group of programs I'm currently a member of for as long as I can. So, I'd appreciate that you cool it a bit on your negativity on this program. You wouldn't want to lose me as a team member. ;)

Otherwise, what do you want from me? To agree with you on ending this on an "alright, we're going to lose" note? ::)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2022 at 1:16am

dansbanners wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 2:13pm:
And if there are people that wants to buy the stock let them!  ::)

Actually, I never thought highly of PTCS. I even think more highly of DLF than I do of PTCS. Haven't even been a member of PTCS for quite some time. And also always thought it was much easier to make some $$$ with DLF than with PTCS.


Maybe that is your problem then. PTCS provides me with plenty of dollars in earnings each month and thousands of hits daily. Many of those going to DLF. I've earned enough this year to buy hundreds of thousands of ad hits.

DLF hasn't been able to get above the 10,000 member mark in years. It has potential but is failing to launch. On the positive side, I guess I can go to McDonald's once per month on what I net there after years of promoting.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2022 at 1:28am

dansbanners wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 2:19pm:
I've got news for you. I ain't going to be joining any more new programs at this point. I'm just going to ride with this group of programs I'm currently a member of for as long as I can. So, I'd appreciate that you cool it a bit on your negativity on this program. You wouldn't want to lose me as a team member. ;)

Otherwise, what do you want from me? To agree with you on ending this on an "alright, we're going to lose" note? ::)


One team member is not going to change things for me. On the internet, you need thousands of team members if you ever plan on making decent money so it doesn't really matter either way. Because I live in Canada, I'd probably need to make ten times what I earn on the net to make any significant difference in my life financially. That is why it is just a hobby to me. $12 per month will barely buy lunch these days and is a waste of time. Fortunately, I have time in small parts of my life to waste so I get paid to fill those spaces.

I don't want anything from you. I made the comment that this site is displaying the typical red flag signs that we look for. You don't have to agree. You can rebut the points as you see fit. My opinion is not going to sink this program but I won't be surprised if I'm right

If I find something that works I won't need you to join because the thing will fly on its own. We share ideas on here for each other's profitable benefit, not because we need each other to make money.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2022 at 3:46am
Here's some positive news. My net profits in Paypal last year was $250.51. That basically came from DLF.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Mar, 2022 at 7:04am

dansbanners wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 5:45am:
Let's say you've invested in a stock. You'd want others to buy shares of the stock this way the value of your shares would go up. Yet, according to your logic it seems almost as if you're hoping that you'll "buy high and sell low". ::)

The way I look at it, I've already invested in the program. Might as well continue earning dividends from it... ;)


I believe all that is wrong with DLF can be solved by a large number of users (over 50K) but that isn't happening right now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:05pm
Kinda stunned to see 2 new pages added since my last visit.  :o
So, after reading all new posts, I would just like to comment on my top picks from your thoughts:


moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 1:28am:
We share ideas on here for each other's profitable benefit,...
I couldn't agree more, we've already helped each other find worthy oportunities. Some have been more profitable to some, others have been more profitable to others.
We've also sometimes protected each other by detecting fishy behavior from admins, I think that's also on the positive side, as it has prevented others from getting struck by avoidable losses.

DLF has proven to be legit, even though the admin is not that invested into his own program, and it's something noticeable just by visiting the site. But there are many out there that have survived through decades this way, take Sebas for example.. he hasn't updated his programs since 2005, but at least they're still out there, not the best performers but still alive and delivering..


moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 1:28am:
...not because we need each other to make money.
Well, it's everyone's own decision to pick what to join and when, though we've seen it in action especially in DLF, that ever since we all joined as a chain it did get us all on the profitable side much easier than the effort required for a single member to get there.. so it was kind of vital on this case.


dansbanners wrote on 11th Mar, 2022 at 2:13pm:
And also always thought it was much easier to make some $$$ with DLF than with PTCS.
That's also true but still mostly due to the fact we joined on a chain.. But these all are different types of programs or tools if you prefer.

DLF is more of a passive income source. I mean all I have to do is just run 2 traffic campaigns per month (which I can get for practically free in PTCS and PV) just to win in the promoting contests, and I'm always on the profitable side there.

Back in the days I had steady traffic sources, so using R4A was more beneficial than others, as I could directly turn traffic to cash.

PTCS and PV are most of the time traffic sources for me than actual earners, and work on a completely different model. They also require daily efforts to keep them going and growing profitable.


moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 3:46am:
Here's some positive news. My net profits in Paypal last year was $250.51. That basically came from DLF.
I could also second that. My yearly (2021) earnings from DLF were ~$110 and it is the only program that pays me through PayPal, which is much more acceptable everywhere than other payment processors. Therefore it does deliver that free burger monthly, or in my case my mobile phone bills..  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:13pm

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 3:46am:
Here's some positive news. My net profits in Paypal last year was $250.51. That basically came from DLF.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

That's terrific! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:27pm

SolidSnake wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:05pm:
Well, it's everyone's own decision to pick what to join and when, though we've seen it in action especially in DLF, that ever since we all joined as a chain it did get us all on the profitable side much easier than the effort required for a single member to get there.. so it was kind of vital on this case.

Yes. We're definitely benefiting from the teamwork in DLF.


SolidSnake wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:05pm:
DLF is more of a passive income source. I mean all I have to do is just run 2 traffic campaigns per month (which I can get for practically free in PTCS and PV) just to win in the promoting contests, and I'm always on the profitable side there.

Which is exactly the way I look at it. In another word, "keep it simple stupid". Just keep it going for as long as you can. No need to make it more complicated or more negative than it has to be.

If your sports team is winning, you should just enjoy it for as long as you can. You don't do a "But...".


SolidSnake wrote on 12th Mar, 2022 at 2:05pm:
PTCS and PV are most of the time traffic sources for me than actual earners, and work on a completely different model. They also require daily efforts to keep them going and growing profitable.

Yes. Which is why I decided not to continue with the program. Got a tedious feeling with the program after a while.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 25th Mar, 2022 at 1:06pm
Just got another referral. My 26th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8742.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Mar, 2022 at 1:15am

dansbanners wrote on 25th Mar, 2022 at 1:06pm:
Just got another referral. My 26th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8742.


So we are at about 50 new members per month. Let's hope it bottoms there. If they bring back the referral contest it could turn around.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Mar, 2022 at 6:43am
Do you guys know where he got the script for his site? He keeps saying it's not a custom job

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Apr, 2022 at 3:13pm
My last profit sharing was $4.74. Better than it has been the last few months. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Apr, 2022 at 2:02pm
Just got another referral. My 27th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8765.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Apr, 2022 at 2:01pm
Just noticed the latest news today.. here are my main thoughts regarding the admin's email:


Quote:
Many of our members have issues using PayPal or Coupon Connect (ORU), so we are in the process of adding a Third payment processor.
...
At the beginning they will only be available in the Unites States, but will later expand worldwide.

On the positive side is that the site is expanding the members's options.
The previous payment processors will obviously stay so things will not change for people that are already comfortable with the current ones which is also nice.


Quote:
The processor we will be using is a brand new one, but from a trusted social media company that is expanding their services to include a complete Marketplace.

Do you have any idea which "trusted social media company" is he talking about? It would be interesting to know.


Quote:
They are still in the Beta phase, but are starting to accept registrations.

This doesn't sound safe enough when we're talking about something as important as a payment processor.
However every empire starts at some point so let's just wait and see..


Quote:
To introduce the new payment processor, we will be running a couple of very special promotions.

I guess it would be somethiing that has an affiliate marketing system integraded, so he'll probably try to take advantage from it using DLF, which is perfectly fine if it helps with adding extra funds to it.

Overal I think it's nice to see the admin putting in extra effort to make the site more appealing and economically healthy.
I'm not sure about the direction though, but who am I to judge? :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 10th Apr, 2022 at 2:03pm

dansbanners wrote on 8th Apr, 2022 at 2:02pm:
Just got another referral. My 27th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8765.

Looks like you're soon to surpass me!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I stand at 33 since November 2021..

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Apr, 2022 at 2:20pm

SolidSnake wrote on 10th Apr, 2022 at 2:03pm:
Looks like you're soon to surpass me!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I stand at 33 since November 2021..

You never know when your referrals could come in spurts. That's one nice thing about DLF. Is that they do give you an incentive to promote. And if you also get some referrals in the meantime, then it's a bonus. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Apr, 2022 at 1:03am

SolidSnake wrote on 10th Apr, 2022 at 2:01pm:
Just noticed the latest news today.. here are my main thoughts regarding the admin's email:

On the positive side is that the site is expanding the members's options.
The previous payment processors will obviously stay so things will not change for people that are already comfortable with the current ones which is also nice.

Do you have any idea which "trusted social media company" is he talking about? It would be interesting to know.

This doesn't sound safe enough when we're talking about something as important as a payment processor.
However every empire starts at some point so let's just wait and see..

I guess it would be somethiing that has an affiliate marketing system integraded, so he'll probably try to take advantage from it using DLF, which is perfectly fine if it helps with adding extra funds to it.

Overal I think it's nice to see the admin putting in extra effort to make the site more appealing and economically healthy.
I'm not sure about the direction though, but who am I to judge? :)



I saw this:


Quote:
New payment processor coming soon


I'm thinking

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Then I saw this:


Quote:
The processor we will be using is a brand new one, but from a trusted social media company that is expanding their services to include a complete Marketplace.

They are still in the Beta phase, but are starting to accept registrations.

At the beginning they will only be available in the Unites States, but will later expand worldwide.


and I'm thinking

:-? [smiley=sad.gif]


More getting in the way of success. I wonder if they will even accept crypto?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th Apr, 2022 at 6:18pm
From the DLF forum:


Quote:
This will no be a Crypto processor. Just US Dollars, with other country's currencies coming later on.
When we DO start using crypto it will probably be through CoinPayments.


:dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Apr, 2022 at 9:37am

Quote:
Prizes for the Top Promoter Contest are Tripled for this current period, which runs from April 16Th to April 30th.

See the Top Promoter Contest page for prizes.

We've had a slow period of growth the past few weeks, and we're running this special promotion to  bump up our signups.

Note: This is NOT the special promotion that will be running when we add the new Payment Processor, which I mentioned in our previous email.

That will be in Addition to this contest promotion. More on that soon.

Good luck in the contest.


That's good to see  :cool1

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Apr, 2022 at 2:17pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Apr, 2022 at 9:37am:
That's good to see  :cool1

Yes. That's good to see! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 20th Apr, 2022 at 8:11pm
So... I somehow got my 34th referral on DLF.

The member ID is 8786, so we get a clue of the site's current growth. :)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 21st Apr, 2022 at 1:38am

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Apr, 2022 at 8:11pm:
So... I somehow got my 34th referral on DLF.

The member ID is 8786, so we get a clue of the site's current growth. :)

Hey, not too bad. About 20+ referrals in a little less than two weeks. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Apr, 2022 at 3:22am

dansbanners wrote on 21st Apr, 2022 at 1:38am:
Hey, not too bad. About 20+ referrals in a little less than two weeks. 8-)


That's about what it was when we first started. It looks like things are normalizing. If he brings the contest back things could increase. I don't think I'll participate in the referral contest though but others probably will.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st May, 2022 at 2:25pm
Got $9.03 in profit sharing this time! A new record for me![smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st May, 2022 at 2:46pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:25pm:
Got $9.03 in profit sharing this time! A new record for me![smiley=12-party.gif]



How many upgrade members do you have? I only have two and received $4.51. Are you including matching bonuses in your total?

For example, I had this:


Quote:
2022-04-07 08:22:05      Daniel M      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2022-04-13 06:04:07      Anita ******      Gold Downline Farm      0.70      Unpaid
2022-04-15 00:01:02      N/A      Matching Bonus      4.74      Unpaid
2022-04-15 00:01:02      N/A      Matching Bonus      1.98      Unpaid
2022-05-01 00:01:04      N/A      Profit Sharing      4.51      Unpaid

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st May, 2022 at 2:51pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:25pm:
Got $9.03 in profit sharing this time! A new record for me![smiley=12-party.gif]


I guess the cool part is on the 15th I should see that too. Maybe I should promote your referral link. We'd both benefit!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st May, 2022 at 3:40pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:25pm:
Got $9.03 in profit sharing this time! A new record for me![smiley=12-party.gif]


So my guess is you have 3 or 4 upgrades which would give you 28 shares to my 14. Maybe I shouldn't have stopped promoting after all.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st May, 2022 at 5:25pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:51pm:
I guess the cool part is on the 15th I should see that too. Maybe I should promote your referral link. We'd both benefit!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Here it is! ;D

https://downlinefarm.com/?rid=3280

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st May, 2022 at 5:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:46pm:
How many upgrade members do you have? I only have two and received $4.51. Are you including matching bonuses in your total?

For example, I had this:

I have 3 upgrade members. No, I'm pretty much sure I'm only showing the last profit sharing total.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st May, 2022 at 6:02pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 5:29pm:
I have 3 upgrade members. No, I'm pretty much sure I'm only showing the last profit sharing total.


That solves the puzzle. Three upgrades gives you four shares to my two which then get multiplied by the seniority multiplier.

This is why they need to bring in the PIF. If I were to upgrade one member, I would earn another $4.51 so my net cost would only be $2.50 and that person might stay upgraded. Then I have their matching bonus on top so it would probably be a net gain.

I think I'm going to start hunting recently signed-in referrals who have been around for a while and ask them if they want a free month upgrade or a rebate on an upgrade   :idea

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th May, 2022 at 2:31am
Just got another referral. My 28th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8810.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th May, 2022 at 5:11pm
I just figured out what the new payment processor will be. You can find it in your profile section as one of the payment processors. It will be GabPay

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th May, 2022 at 5:34pm
Just got another referral. My 29th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8817.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th May, 2022 at 7:43pm

dansbanners wrote on 6th May, 2022 at 5:34pm:
Just got another referral. My 29th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8817.


Congrats, Dan. And I see you are challenging for third place. That will be a nice bonus if you can get it.  [smiley=selfconf.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 7th May, 2022 at 2:34am

moneymarketing wrote on 6th May, 2022 at 7:43pm:
Congrats, Dan. And I see you are challenging for third place. That will be a nice bonus if you can get it.  [smiley=selfconf.gif]

Thanks moneymarketing. Yeah, that would be nice. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th May, 2022 at 1:03am

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 5:25pm:
Here it is! ;D

https://downlinefarm.com/?rid=3280


I gave you a bit of a boost at PTCS to help you in the contest. If it works out right we might both end up in the top 3  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th May, 2022 at 1:31am

moneymarketing wrote on 10th May, 2022 at 1:03am:
I gave you a bit of a boost at PTCS to help you in the contest. If it works out right we might both end up in the top 3  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Alright. Hope for the best. Thanks! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th May, 2022 at 1:12am
Just got another referral. My 30th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8832.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th May, 2022 at 6:45am

dansbanners wrote on 11th May, 2022 at 1:12am:
Just got another referral. My 30th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8832.



And it looks like that $9 is in the bag  :money [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I think I'll have to settle for fourth but I'll make it up next time  ;)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 13th May, 2022 at 2:57pm
Just got another referral. My 31st! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8841.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th May, 2022 at 1:20am

dansbanners wrote on 13th May, 2022 at 2:57pm:
Just got another referral. My 31st! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8841.


Ha! You're #1 and I'm #3. At least we know the extra cash will go to good use  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th May, 2022 at 1:48pm

moneymarketing wrote on 15th May, 2022 at 1:20am:
Ha! You're #1 and I'm #3. At least we know the extra cash will go to good use  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Yep! I came in first! [smiley=12-party.gif]

I also received $6.02 in matching bonuses. A new record for me! 8-)

Thank you so much moneymarketing. I appreciate it! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 17th May, 2022 at 12:46am

dansbanners wrote on 16th May, 2022 at 1:48pm:
Yep! I came in first! [smiley=12-party.gif]

I also received $6.02 in matching bonuses. A new record for me! 8-)

Thank you so much moneymarketing. I appreciate it! 8-)


No problem. Thanks for the $9 in matching bonuses  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=12-party.gif] :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th May, 2022 at 1:20am
I took a break but I think I will get back into promoting beyond my passive hits now that the income-generation is picking up again. I'll start with banners first so as to broaden my reach. The thing is, I'll go back to promoting my first page instead of my second one. That's because it only needs a paid referral or two to take me to the earnings level Dan is at thanks to seniority. I'm hoping Sebas becomes active again now that I have PIFed him

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th May, 2022 at 2:27pm

moneymarketing wrote on 19th May, 2022 at 1:20am:
I took a break but I think I will get back into promoting beyond my passive hits now that the income-generation is picking up again. I'll start with banners first so as to broaden my reach. The thing is, I'll go back to promoting my first page instead of my second one. That's because it only needs a paid referral or two to take me to the earnings level Dan is at thanks to seniority. I'm hoping Sebas becomes active again now that I have PIFed him

Does Sebas know you have PIFed him? All he has to do is to promote it in his programs.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th May, 2022 at 8:15pm
Just got another referral. My 32nd! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8850.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th May, 2022 at 3:20am

dansbanners wrote on 19th May, 2022 at 2:27pm:
Does Sebas know you have PIFed him? All he has to do is to promote it in his programs.


I didn't notify him but the site may have.

He was promoting at first but then he stopped. I guess he felt the program wasn't ready for prime time. Roberto also told me he is not cashing out but just letting the money accumulate so I don't know what that means.

He could definitely be a game-changer for the site but I'm not going to force it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 21st May, 2022 at 11:15pm
Today I notice I didn't have any USD in my Paypal account, which I just used for DLF.
Turns out lately DLF has paid me in €. But I'm sure I started receiving in USD and my Gold Membership is paid in USD.

Did you notice something like that, Snake?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 22nd May, 2022 at 3:45pm

ruicarlov wrote on 21st May, 2022 at 11:15pm:
Today I notice I didn't have any USD in my Paypal account, which I just used for DLF.
Turns out lately DLF has paid me in €. But I'm sure I started receiving in USD and my Gold Membership is paid in USD.

Did you notice something like that, Snake?

Yes it has always used my EUR balance.

Even though DLF works with USD, I think PayPal always tends to convert that to EUR before processing the payment..

I think I'm also losing some value due to the conversion too.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd May, 2022 at 5:28am

SolidSnake wrote on 22nd May, 2022 at 3:45pm:
Yes it has always used my EUR balance.

Even though DLF works with USD, I think PayPal always tends to convert that to EUR before processing the payment..

I think I'm also losing some value due to the conversion too.


I think it's a PP thing. They are trying to burn you on the transfer. Have you tried the add a currency feature? That might help. They were doing the same thing with my C$ by converting US$ to C$. I think it is just another PP weasel move. I think you also need to have some funds on balance in the currency you use.

https://www.paypal.com/myaccount/money/currencies/new

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 23rd May, 2022 at 8:41am
It's good to see the site still delivers referrals:

Position #1: 401 referrals
Position #2: 798 referrals

It looks like the promotion contest is getting more competitive with more cash on the line. This will work in all our favor. More exposure means more referrals for the site in general and more people seeing the site promoted. I hope he can keep the promotion contest bonuses up.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by ruicarlov on 24th May, 2022 at 12:25am
I checked my history and the payments were coming in USD until June last year, then started coming in EUR.  :-?
I had USD in my balance then.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th May, 2022 at 1:32am
Latest referral #8869. Things are picking up again.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th May, 2022 at 2:03pm

moneymarketing wrote on 26th May, 2022 at 1:32am:
Latest referral #8869. Things are picking up again.

Yes. That's almost 20 referrals in just a week.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 27th May, 2022 at 8:14pm

SolidSnake wrote on 20th Apr, 2022 at 8:11pm:
So... I somehow got my 34th referral on DLF.

The member ID is 8786, so we get a clue of the site's current growth. :)

Ok, now this is weird... it seems I've lost that referral.. and got back to 33 now..  :-?

Have you noticed anything like that in your lists?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th May, 2022 at 1:33am

SolidSnake wrote on 27th May, 2022 at 8:14pm:
Ok, now this is weird... it seems I've lost that referral.. and got back to 33 now..  :-?

Have you noticed anything like that in your lists?


Yes, that happens. I assume it is because of the email marketing to get people to upgrade. Some just want no part of it so they will quit. They are self-selecting. I wouldn't be worried. The marketing does a good job of getting people to upgrade so I think the tradeoff is worth it.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jun, 2022 at 7:00am
We both got knocked out of the top 3, Dan but we definitely saw more promotion activity by the top players so this should benefit the site overall.

I'm estimating we added about 80 more referrals this month which is almost double the previous month so....it's all good  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Jun, 2022 at 1:56pm

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Jun, 2022 at 7:00am:
We both got knocked out of the top 3, Dan but we definitely saw more promotion activity by the top players so this should benefit the site overall.

I'm estimating we added about 80 more referrals this month which is almost double the previous month so....it's all good  ;D

Yes. We definitely saw more promotion activity. Which is still good for the team. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Jun, 2022 at 2:00pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st May, 2022 at 2:25pm:
Got $9.03 in profit sharing this time! A new record for me![smiley=12-party.gif]
I still broke my own profit sharing record, getting $9.92 this time! [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Jun, 2022 at 11:50pm

dansbanners wrote on 1st Jun, 2022 at 2:00pm:
I still broke my own profit sharing record, getting $9.92 this time! [smiley=12-party.gif]


You are my cash cow!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

This is where our teamwork formula pays off!  :money 8-) [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Jun, 2022 at 12:07am

dansbanners wrote on 1st Jun, 2022 at 2:00pm:
I still broke my own profit sharing record, getting $9.92 this time! [smiley=12-party.gif]


PIFing Sebas was enough to push me to the $9.92 level which is double what it was last month. I'll also cash in on his matching bonus which could be in that range too. So for seven dollars, I was able to gain close to $14 in earnings. This is why PIFing can be beneficial. It can motivate uplines to help risk-free which will create a virtuous compounding circle.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Jun, 2022 at 2:28am

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Jun, 2022 at 11:50pm:
You are my cash cow!  [smiley=lolx.gif]

This is where our teamwork formula pays off!  :money 8-) [smiley=12-party.gif]

Yes. I'm feeling the teamwork here. 8-) 

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jun, 2022 at 6:38am
Jamespaul. 5600 points in two days! impressive!  :o

I hope 1. he can keep up the pace and 2. they are quality credits.

Maybe he owns a website. Either way, this will be beneficial to all. If he can pick up one referral per 5K then that will help to build our teams.

You've often seen me write that if only a few of us could do something like that, the site would hit a nice compound growth curve.

We are so well placed now that we are deep in seniority. I almost hit $50 this month with my two positions combined. I think that will become more regular. So close. [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 6th Jun, 2022 at 3:14pm
Did you see the "New Promotion At DLF!" email sent today from the owner?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 6th Jun, 2022 at 7:39pm

dansbanners wrote on 6th Jun, 2022 at 3:14pm:
Did you see the "New Promotion At DLF!" email sent today from the owner?


Yes, I haven't seen anything from my referrals yet but I hope the site sees a bump from it

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 8th Jun, 2022 at 6:45pm

moneymarketing wrote on 3rd Jun, 2022 at 6:38am:
Jamespaul. 5600 points in two days! impressive!


I just saw this guy's picture at BoB. Is he one of your referrals, Dan?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Jun, 2022 at 12:04am

moneymarketing wrote on 8th Jun, 2022 at 6:45pm:
I just saw this guy's picture at BoB. Is he one of your referrals, Dan?

No, he isn't in my DLF downline. Is he also Jamespaul over there in BoB?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Jun, 2022 at 12:06am
Just got another referral. My 33rd! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8912.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jun, 2022 at 12:50am
Is anyone a member of this? I assume this list will bomb you with ads once you join but it does offer a lot of advertising. Maybe as an upgrade, you can limit ads. Does anyone want to take a dive?


Quote:
Dear valued Downline Farm members,
we have just added a very valuable bonus for Gold members.

This is in addition for the current Upgrade offer we are currently running for Free members, where you get $7 added to your commission balance when you upgrade to Gold. (log in to view that offer)

The NEW Gold Bonus is found on the "Gold Bonuses" page, which is under the Site Navigation tab.
(this page is not accessible to Free members)

Here are the details:

You will get a Platinum Upgrade at My Viral List Builder, and an Advertising Pack, which includes:

20 Solo Ads
20 Banner Ads - with 1000 views each
20 Text Ads - with 1000 views each
5 Full Page Ads - 100 views each
2 Login Ads - 100 views each
20,000 Credits

My Viral List Builder is the gold standard for list building. Not only do they have a powerhouse platform for boosting your list and income..

- EVERY member whether upgraded or not can add their autoresponder code to their main page.

- EVERY member can promote their offers to fellow members.

- When your refer someone, they join your list first, BEFORE joining our program.

- They even include tips, training and even downloads to teach you how to get the most out of your business.

My Viral List Builder pays FAT commissions too!

Find out why they all say "The money is in the list"


If you are a free member of DLF, this is a great time for you to upgrade.


Have a great weekend,
Roberto Santana

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jun, 2022 at 7:10am
I like that he is starting to focus in-house and working on getting people upgraded to gold. That way he doesn't rely on third-party sites for his cash flow which can be risky as a PO. As affiliates, that's what we do but PO's should stay in-house for the most part and have third-party stuff as incentives like this recent gold bonus.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Jun, 2022 at 7:30am

dansbanners wrote on 9th Jun, 2022 at 12:06am:
Just got another referral. My 33rd! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8912.



8927!  [smiley=crazy.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Jun, 2022 at 2:02pm

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Jun, 2022 at 7:30am:
8927!  [smiley=crazy.gif]

That's good to know! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 13th Jun, 2022 at 5:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 11th Jun, 2022 at 12:50am:
Is anyone a member of this? I assume this list will bomb you with ads once you join but it does offer a lot of advertising. Maybe as an upgrade, you can limit ads. Does anyone want to take a dive?


Quote:
Dear valued Downline Farm members,
we have just added a very valuable bonus for Gold members.

This is in addition for the current Upgrade offer we are currently running for Free members, where you get $7 added to your commission balance when you upgrade to Gold. (log in to view that offer)

The NEW Gold Bonus is found on the "Gold Bonuses" page, which is under the Site Navigation tab.
(this page is not accessible to Free members)

Here are the details:

You will get a Platinum Upgrade at My Viral List Builder, and an Advertising Pack, which includes:

20 Solo Ads
20 Banner Ads - with 1000 views each
20 Text Ads - with 1000 views each
5 Full Page Ads - 100 views each
2 Login Ads - 100 views each
20,000 Credits

My Viral List Builder is the gold standard for list building. Not only do they have a powerhouse platform for boosting your list and income..

- EVERY member whether upgraded or not can add their autoresponder code to their main page.

- EVERY member can promote their offers to fellow members.

- When your refer someone, they join your list first, BEFORE joining our program.

- They even include tips, training and even downloads to teach you how to get the most out of your business.

My Viral List Builder pays FAT commissions too!

Find out why they all say "The money is in the list"


If you are a free member of DLF, this is a great time for you to upgrade.


Have a great weekend,
Roberto Santana



Hi SS,

Dan and I have talked about this and are going to try it. You are my upline so you would need to join first in the downline builder (found here when you log in):

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=dlb_9

Pros: free traffic and upgrade with ten levels of referrals.

Cons: potential bombardment to your email list

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 14th Jun, 2022 at 9:53am

moneymarketing wrote on 13th Jun, 2022 at 5:44am:
Hi SS,

Dan and I have talked about this and are going to try it. You are my upline so you would need to join first in the downline builder (found here when you log in):

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=dlb_9

Pros: free traffic and upgrade with ten levels of referrals.

Cons: potential bombardment to your email list

You're talking about "My Viral List Builder" right?

In the downline builder page (the one you mention) above, it seems the affiliate ID under which the next one signs up is robsan40 which I guess comes from Roberto Santana.. the admin.

So, we get to join under him, then chain one another?
Also, are you sure I should join first?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Jun, 2022 at 3:45am

SolidSnake wrote on 14th Jun, 2022 at 9:53am:
You're talking about "My Viral List Builder" right?

In the downline builder page (the one you mention) above, it seems the affiliate ID under which the next one signs up is robsan40 which I guess comes from Roberto Santana.. the admin.

So, we get to join under him, then chain one another?
Also, are you sure I should join first?


Yes, I guess he's the default affiliate ID for everyone who's upline isn't in.

You would need to join first because you're my upline, I'm Dan's, and Dan is Rui's. So if you put your name in that is the name that will show up in my downline builder

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 16th Jun, 2022 at 4:29am

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Jun, 2022 at 12:07am:
PIFing Sebas was enough to push me to the $9.92 level which is double what it was last month. I'll also cash in on his matching bonus which could be in that range too. So for seven dollars, I was able to gain close to $14 in earnings. This is why PIFing can be beneficial. It can motivate uplines to help risk-free which will create a virtuous compounding circle.


It looks like he has no upgraded downline so his bonus was only $2.07. Thanks to Dan I still made some money from all that as his matching bonus was $9.92

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 16th Jun, 2022 at 1:59pm
Just got $6.61 in matching bonuses. A new record for me! 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 17th Jun, 2022 at 12:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Jun, 2022 at 3:45am:
Yes, I guess he's the default affiliate ID for everyone who's upline isn't in.

You would need to join first because you're my upline, I'm Dan's, and Dan is Rui's. So if you put your name in that is the name that will show up in my downline builder

So, I got in and added my ref id to the downline builder.
The ref id is my username which is.. what else.. "SolidSnake" so, you could check if it shows up correctly at the downline builder page at DLF.

Here's a screenshot of the program's members page:



You also get a glimpse of its upgrade levels.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Jun, 2022 at 12:42am
I'm in. Affiliate ID: newsong

You will be hit with three OTOs. Very annoying

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Jun, 2022 at 1:00am

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Jun, 2022 at 12:42am:
I'm in. Affiliate ID: newsong

You will be hit with three OTOs. Very annoying

I see your affiliate ID. I'll be joining tomorrow.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Jun, 2022 at 1:07am
The promo code gives you 70,000 ad credits. You can use those to buy lifetime banner ads. I think that is probably the most cost effective use for the credits as they will then be on the site as long as it lasts

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Jun, 2022 at 2:35am

dansbanners wrote on 18th Jun, 2022 at 1:00am:
I see your affiliate ID. I'll be joining tomorrow.


[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 18th Jun, 2022 at 2:49am

dansbanners wrote on 9th Jun, 2022 at 12:04am:
No, he isn't in my DLF downline. Is he also Jamespaul over there in BoB?


I didn't see this answer before. I think so but I can't remember now.

I see that his ad push was a one-time thing. I guess he was going for those contest bonuses. Back to the drawing board.  :dontknow

BTW, with two accounts at DLF it is easier to do split testing at sites. I just realized that. You can use banners, splash pages and your own personal pages to test against each other as long as you use the different referral links

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Jun, 2022 at 5:11pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Jun, 2022 at 2:35am:
[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Ok I joined. Am I in your MyViralListBuilder downline?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 18th Jun, 2022 at 5:42pm
And what do we need to do to get the Platinum Upgrade at My Viral List Builder?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 18th Jun, 2022 at 10:51pm

moneymarketing wrote on 18th Jun, 2022 at 12:42am:
I'm in. Affiliate ID: newsong

You will be hit with three OTOs. Very annoying

I see you in my list.

I'm still free member though.. is there something we need to do to get the upgrade?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 19th Jun, 2022 at 2:30am

SolidSnake wrote on 18th Jun, 2022 at 10:51pm:
I see you in my list.

I'm still free member though.. is there something we need to do to get the upgrade?


You can find the promo code here at DLF. I don't want to post it here

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=GldBonus

Go and insert the code here:

https://www.myvirallistbuilder.com/members/redeempromo.php

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 19th Jun, 2022 at 11:21am

moneymarketing wrote on 19th Jun, 2022 at 2:30am:
You can find the promo code here at DLF. I don't want to post it here

https://downlinefarm.com/members.php?page=GldBonus

Go and insert the code here:

https://www.myvirallistbuilder.com/members/redeempromo.php

Thanks! I've now made it and my account was upgraded to platinum.

I had not browsed to the Gold Bonuses page in DLF:

[Logged in] -> Site Navigation -> Gold Bonuses

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Jun, 2022 at 7:03pm
I've now also redeemed to upgrade to the platinum level at MVLB! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Jun, 2022 at 11:57pm
Just got another referral. My 34th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8942.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Jun, 2022 at 1:49am
Lifetime banner ad averaging about...

...3 views per day.  :P

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Oh well. At least it didn't cost us anything.  ;D

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 20th Jun, 2022 at 3:29pm

moneymarketing wrote on 20th Jun, 2022 at 1:49am:
Lifetime banner ad averaging about...

...3 views per day.  :P

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Oh well. At least it didn't cost us anything.  ;D

Did you purchase the lifetime banner ad with the credits that came with the platinum membership?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 20th Jun, 2022 at 11:17pm

dansbanners wrote on 20th Jun, 2022 at 3:29pm:
Did you purchase the lifetime banner ad with the credits that came with the platinum membership?


Yes, I exchanged the three-pack

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 21st Jun, 2022 at 8:24pm

dansbanners wrote on 20th Jun, 2022 at 3:29pm:
Did you purchase the lifetime banner ad with the credits that came with the platinum membership?


Saw your solo. That's pretty good ad copy.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 22nd Jun, 2022 at 3:44am

moneymarketing wrote on 21st Jun, 2022 at 8:24pm:
Saw your solo. That's pretty good ad copy.

Yes. Saw mine was well. I'll let you know the results.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 22nd Jun, 2022 at 5:22am

dansbanners wrote on 22nd Jun, 2022 at 3:44am:
Yes. Saw mine was well. I'll let you know the results.


You should send that to the admin so he can put it on the email page for solo ads. I think it would work well.

Do they give you stats for clicks/views on your ad? If so, then we can know how many active members there are based on the emails sent.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 22nd Jun, 2022 at 2:09pm

moneymarketing wrote on 22nd Jun, 2022 at 5:22am:
Do they give you stats for clicks/views on your ad?

Yes. They do. I'll let you know the stats once the number of clicks stops incrementing.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 24th Jun, 2022 at 8:23pm
Ok. Here's the update. So far the stats are the following:

- I used 1 out of 20 solo ads and got 16 clicks so far

- I used 1 out of 20 banner ads and got 5 views so far (i.e. although I was able to use the BoB exchange to earn some BoB impressions)

Haven't purchased any ads with the credits yet. Just used the ads that came with the platinum membership thus far like the ones above.   

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jun, 2022 at 6:35am

dansbanners wrote on 24th Jun, 2022 at 8:23pm:
Ok. Here's the update. So far the stats are the following:

- I used 1 out of 20 solo ads and got 16 clicks so far

- I used 1 out of 20 banner ads and got 5 views so far (i.e. although I was able to use the BoB exchange to earn some BoB impressions)

Haven't purchased any ads with the credits yet. Just used the ads that came with the platinum membership thus far like the ones above.   


I'm going to try one myself. I'll let you know

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Jun, 2022 at 4:08am

moneymarketing wrote on 26th Jun, 2022 at 6:35am:
I'm going to try one myself. I'll let you know


14 clicks zero signups  :P

Not exactly a robust list

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 28th Jun, 2022 at 2:14pm
At this point, I'm still looking at it from a "free clicks" perspective. And if we happen to also get some signups that would be a bonus.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 28th Jun, 2022 at 5:18pm

dansbanners wrote on 28th Jun, 2022 at 2:14pm:
At this point, I'm still looking at it from a "free clicks" perspective. And if we happen to also get some signups that would be a bonus.


But unless it is a site like R4A, free clicks are useless. Unless you are talking about clicks that will help in the contest, I suppose

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 28th Jun, 2022 at 9:25pm

moneymarketing wrote on 28th Jun, 2022 at 5:18pm:
But unless it is a site like R4A, free clicks are useless. Unless you are talking about clicks that will help in the contest, I suppose

Yes. That'll help in the contest. And if it also leads to some referrals, then that would be a plus.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Jul, 2022 at 11:21pm
Got a MVLB referral. At first I wondered where I got it from. Then I realized it was one of my DLF referrals that signed up through the DLF's MVLB downline link. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 5th Jul, 2022 at 11:59pm
Also, learned that same DLF downline member mentioned in the last post just purchased the gold membership for the 1st time. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Jul, 2022 at 3:58pm
Just got another referral. My 35th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8985

I actually got this referral on July 7th. Just got around to posting it now.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 12th Jul, 2022 at 1:52am
Just got another referral. My 36th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8998

Interestingly this referral came from My Viral List Builder.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 12th Jul, 2022 at 7:12pm

dansbanners wrote on 12th Jul, 2022 at 1:52am:
Just got another referral. My 36th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 8998

Interestingly this referral came from My Viral List Builder.


Good job. Almost at 9000!

I picked up two after I sent my last mail but it wasn't tracked properly so they could have come from a few different places.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 15th Jul, 2022 at 12:03am

moneymarketing wrote on 12th Jul, 2022 at 7:12pm:
Good job. Almost at 9000!

I picked up two after I sent my last mail but it wasn't tracked properly so they could have come from a few different places.


Got #9000  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 15th Jul, 2022 at 12:32am

moneymarketing wrote on 15th Jul, 2022 at 12:03am:
Got #9000  [smiley=lolx.gif]

[smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 26th Jul, 2022 at 7:14pm
Promotion contest picking up momentum and getting more competitive again  :D :money

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 30th Jul, 2022 at 1:19am
Just got another referral. My 38th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9029

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 30th Jul, 2022 at 2:13pm
Did you get the notice that some random referrals had been transferred? I did get one. Thus why I jumped from having 36 to 38 referrals after getting the latest signup. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 31st Jul, 2022 at 12:24am

dansbanners wrote on 30th Jul, 2022 at 2:13pm:
Did you get the notice that some random referrals had been transferred? I did get one. Thus why I jumped from having 36 to 38 referrals after getting the latest signup. 8-)


Did it indicate where those referrals came from? I got the notice and got one right after as well but it appears to have come from my own referring

The contest is going strong! Even without special bonuses.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 31st Jul, 2022 at 2:55am

moneymarketing wrote on 31st Jul, 2022 at 12:24am:
Did it indicate where those referrals came from? I got the notice and got one right after as well but it appears to have come from my own referring

The contest is going strong! Even without special bonuses.

My last referral was my 38th and the previous one was my 36th. So, it looks like the random referral was inserted somewhere between my referral #1 to my referral #36.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 1st Aug, 2022 at 1:36am

dansbanners wrote on 31st Jul, 2022 at 2:55am:
My last referral was my 38th and the previous one was my 36th. So, it looks like the random referral was inserted somewhere between my referral #1 to my referral #36.



What about the tracking? Was there any indication from there? Blanks or strange referral links? I have one that says unknown. I'm wondering if that was random

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 1st Aug, 2022 at 1:52am

moneymarketing wrote on 1st Aug, 2022 at 1:36am:
What about the tracking? Was there any indication from there? Blanks or strange referral links? I have one that says unknown. I'm wondering if that was random

No, I do not think "unknown" is necessarily an indication that it was random? Although I could be wrong?

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 9th Aug, 2022 at 1:10am
Just got another referral. My 39th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9058

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 10th Aug, 2022 at 6:04am
Did you get the notice that the login offer expired? What was the login offer?  :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 10th Aug, 2022 at 1:31pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Aug, 2022 at 6:04am:
Did you get the notice that the login offer expired? What was the login offer?  :dontknow

I didn't know either. :dontknow

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Aug, 2022 at 12:31am

dansbanners wrote on 10th Aug, 2022 at 1:31pm:
I didn't know either. :dontknow


Maybe it went to inactives or something

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 11th Aug, 2022 at 5:29pm

dansbanners wrote on 10th Aug, 2022 at 1:31pm:
I didn't know either. :dontknow


Admin reply:


Quote:
The offer was for Free members, they would see it every time they logged in.

It was not visible to Gold members, but I did send 2 emails to Gold members
telling them about it.

The promotion was $7 added to your commissions for upgrading.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by SolidSnake on 12th Aug, 2022 at 12:47pm

moneymarketing wrote on 10th Aug, 2022 at 6:04am:
Did you get the notice that the login offer expired? What was the login offer?  :dontknow

I also noticed that and was wondering about it..

I thought it was about the login ad they had been testing recently, but never figured out if or where could someone purchase a spot on it.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 26th Aug, 2022 at 11:39pm
Just got another referral. My 40th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9104

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 28th Aug, 2022 at 1:46pm
Just got another referral. My 41st! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9113

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 29th Aug, 2022 at 6:28am

dansbanners wrote on 28th Aug, 2022 at 1:46pm:
Just got another referral. My 41st! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9113


We are close to 100 new referrals this month

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 31st Aug, 2022 at 7:59pm
Just got another referral. My 42nd! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9122

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 2nd Sep, 2022 at 5:12am
$9.74 in profit sharing on position 1.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 2nd Sep, 2022 at 12:57pm

moneymarketing wrote on 2nd Sep, 2022 at 5:12am:
$9.74 in profit sharing on position 1.  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Good for you! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 4th Oct, 2022 at 5:13am
Just got another referral. My 43rd! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9189

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 19th Dec, 2022 at 3:11pm
Just got another referral! 8-)

Referral ID # 9314


Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by moneymarketing on 3rd Jan, 2023 at 1:53am
So they have another program in the nutrition pool. I think this one is a little more realistic than the previous one. I actually saw it and checked it out before he got on board


Quote:
Hi Brevco,
we are determined to make 2023 our most successful year ever. Are You ready to do the same?

We have added a dynamic new program to our Community Commissions Pool programs.  The company is LiveGood.

To understand how our "Community Commissions" works, visit the page here:
https://downlinefarm.com/content.php?page=Com_Pool

To learn more about LiveGood click on their banner on that page.

They have a great, yet simple, compensation plan.

Their health products are priced about 75% lower than other MLMs, with Better quality.

LiveGood is a relatively New company, and right now they are EXPLODING!

The Pre-Enrollment is a straight line Powerline, everyone who joins after you Worldwide is placed below you. So pre-enroll NOW, there's no obligation during pre-enrollment, you are just reserving your spot ahead of the masses.

I hope you will take advantage of this great opportunity to earn a steady income, and to improve your health.

Nobody is going to take care of your health, it's YOUR Responsibility.

Have a blessed new year,
Roberto Santana


The prices are better but not spectacular. I think the health quality is better. I think this can actually be grown by him but I won't get in myself for a few reasons.

I came close to buying in but there are some red flags.

1. they are selling a powerline but it is not a true powerline. Once you get into the business, they place you in a 2x10 matrix. These always clog up and peter out so at some point it will die for you unless you are a promoter. Since DLF has a nice pool to promote to, I don't think this will be a major problem for them.

2. They have a $40 enrollment fee and a $9.95 monthly affiliate fee. This tells me they are not there to make money from the product. They make money up front and monthly from the MLM cult. This has always been a huge red flag and the sole reason I don't get into these things. A lot of people will be duped by this and because most can't recruit they will be sitting on a dead matrix and paying $9,95 per month for hopium while the company makes out like bandits

So, I think there is a market for DLF to promote to but I don't think most will benefit. If they can tap into the right vein then this could become perpetual for them but I'm not going to go for it myself. There is just too much taking up front which tells me the ownership doesn't believe in it themselves but they know all the hot buttons to press to suck people in  :dontknow

I'll say this is a much better opp than in the past but only to some. This will make their pool better but they should tweak the company as they grow in order to make it more profitable to the masses. When the enrollment and monthly fee are shrunk or gone I'll look again.

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 8th Jan, 2023 at 3:55pm
Just had a profit sharing of $9.58. One of my better ones. 8-)

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 11th Jan, 2023 at 2:18pm
Just got another referral. My 44th! 8-)

It was also referral ID # 9348

Title: Re: Downline farm
Post by dansbanners on 14th Jan, 2023 at 2:08pm
Downline Farm just came up with a new community splash page. Good to see them being proactive.

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