Ok, but where within the website did you look up that info?

Cause it says the following in their "Cashout levels revealed!" news page:

"Our cashout levels have been set with this in mind. We're now announcing that members will be able to cashout at $100 (just four referred sales!) and advertisers will be able to cashout at $50 (just one referred sale!)."

Alright, there it is. Now we're waiting for them to start counting the impressions!

I have 3 referrals but it doesn't show any details at all about them..
That kinda sucks.. as I can't check anyone's activity.
Even if somebody in my downline does upgrade I won't be able to see who that was..
(Wow.. I've just realized that there's no thumbs down smiley in our forum..)

venkat wrote on 15^th Feb, 2013 at 6:55am:


, that is true.. sales = upgraded referrals..
I guess they wanted to attract only serious affiliate marketers.. and kinda avoid freebies..
Not sure if that's a good move but still "Rogue" are pretty famous to take such risks through innovations.

I mean.. etc. if neobux opened up a matrix site now, even though people know that usually matrix sites fail,
many would rush to join and invest in it just because neobux is still out there.. Wordlinx thought of that first.

Yeah, but I think setting a minimum payout of $10 or $20 would make them sustainable. People who bring traffic for a while and don't make it, won't be withdrawing. That would make it sustainable.

Personally, I will never hesitate to buy advertisement with Rogue group. I believe my referrals too won't. The only thing I'm afraid is, members shouldn't get a different picture as if it's a trap.

I really don't think it is good to discourage mere publishers. We need both the advertisers and publishers.

Insisting advertisers to publish is somewhat harmless, but insisting publishers to buy advertising may be harmful to the site.

EDIT: I just observed that they accept only Paypal. We Indians can't spend via paypal even if we are interested in buying impressions. It becomes meaningless whether I am interested or not, while I can't.

Obviously there are many people from my country who are good promoters. If they can't cashout, probably they stay away. Potential loss for Rogue Media. 

Well they state the following in their news page :
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Not sure if that helps though..
We know that Payza is not an option too.. as they state here.


Well, now that I re-read it I believe you're right. It's still not 100% clear though..
They don't say that 4/1 are the requirements for members/advertisers to cashout.. they only say that that's how many sales get you above the cashout amount $100/$50 accordingly.

About my calculations.. I made a mistake in the amount we earn from $15 sales. $15 x 0.3 = $4.5 (instead of $5 which I by mistake state there - I corrected the post).

ALso regarding the advertisers / sales, I connected the terms keeping in mind that if a referral of ours becomes an advertiser, that means one sale for us. However a referral can make more than one sales.. so we don't necessarily need more than 1 referred advertiser.

So, to sum it all up corrected.. :

Let's say that a member buys the lower advertising package which is $15. Then he becomes advertiser for a year.
Then immediately he refers a member that also does the same (pays $15) but fails to refer any advertiser. So the site gets $30.
Now the first member will be displaying banners for a year and as an dvertiser he'll get $0.10 per day for displaying banners.

In 360 days he'll have accumulated $36,00 plus 30% of his sale to his referral which is $15*0.3=$4.5 so $36 + $4.5 = $40.5 total earnings.

In order to reach the cashout he'll need at least of the minimum $15 from his referred advertiser(s).
That equals to : $36 + (4 x $4.5) = $54 in a year.
And the site will have got : 5 x $15 = $75 during that year.

So, the advertiser's pure profit will be : $54 - $15 = $39
while the site's pure profit will be $75 - $54 = $21

3 x $15 sales will only get us exactly the minimum cashout requirement if we calculate a year as 365 days :
$36.5 + (3 x $4.5) = $50 ... oh and let's add the "active referral" bonus that we'll get.. $0.02.. so we get $50.02 and that's above the minimum requirement.
Funny thing.. is that "the 'secret sauce' behind their payment algorithm" they were talking about? 

So, in that special case the advertiser's pure profit will be : $50.02 - $15 = $35.02
While the site's pure profit will be : (4 x $15) - $50.02 = $9.98

I didn't go deep into the calculations yet, but where is the info that says $0.02 per day from referrals. I thought it was one time bonus.

I interpret "base rate of $0.10 per day, but with enough active referrals this will increase to (and beyond) $1.00 per day" as 30% from the base rate of our referrals.This may be either $0.015 or $0.03.

My concern is this:
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Without a CPM rate, I wonder how this can be sustainable? (Or is there any CPM rate for publisher and did I miss it? I saw CPM rate for advertisers, but I haven't found CPM rate for publishers.)