Hello zanderpm, (and  to the X-PTCBox forum!)
I've just checked constantbux.com but it seems we can't get detailed info on the advertising rates, upgraded memberships and click rates unless we sign-up. I assume you're the owner of the site, so could you please provide us with some more information?

Regarding PTC Advertisement types (standard, mini, extended etc.)

1. What is the cost per 1000 clicks for the advertiser
2. What is the duration in seconds of each ad type
3. How much can a standard member earn per personal click for each ad type
4. How much can a standard member earn per referral click for each ad type
5. Will there be guaranteed / self sponsored ads daily?

Also regarding upgrades and referring

1. Are there direct/rented referral limits?
2. Could you please post a link/screenshot of the upgraded features table from the site?

Since there's a lot of team work in this forum, if we feel constantbux.com is interesting, a couple of members
could join it as a team and I might also support it by purchasing advertising for PTCBox.Me

Thank you for your time!

(Note : I fixed your image to be visible without the need to visit the image hosting service)

Well, $20 for 1000 clicks is sustainable yep.. though I'm sorry to say but I think it will be practically impossible to get an advertiser at that PTC rate..

But I feel it may increase your selling odds if in that price you also included some additional non-incentive advertising.

For example :

Banner advertising
Text ads
Login ads
AdGrid ads etc.

You could also increase the duration of the most expensive ads to 60 seconds..

There are sites where we can get 1000 clicks for $1.. so in order to sell at your price you should make the offer really competitive without raising your own costs as it would affect your site's stability. Remember it's not always enough to have a stable site.. you need to keep a balance between the member's earnings and the advertiser's expense.

It's good however that you understand the point of stability. Not many admins around do that's why we end up having more scams than legit opportunities online... Well, that's all for now.. I hope I helped.

Yes, although some friends could disagree with me on waiting for a minute to get $0.01 but I believe it's not that bad.
It has worked well in the past.. if anybody remembers bux.to... members didn't have a problem with waiting.

Actually these days members will do a lot to get that $0.01 with all the PTCs now giving $0.001 per click..
which I personally deeply disapprove..

To explain why I do so, let's take neobux for a example as it's the most popular PTC and somehow it can be considered as a price setter in this industry.

In neobux members see many different kind of ads including micro and fixed advertisements that pay $0.001 to both stardard and upgraded members. It's the main type of ads that are available most of the time.

So a user has to visit a site and wait for 5 seconds to get credited $0.001. This way he will need at least 10 x 5 = 50 seconds to get $0.01 by them and it will take him more time if we include closing windows and open the new ads..

As a member I definitely prefer to visit a site for 60 seconds without having to open-close 10 windows during that minute. This way I could actually check/read the site that the advertiser there is paying me to visit. 60 seconds is enough time to get a clue about what it is about and I have time to read and think. Maybe even browse it.. either way, I'll be an active visitor as it won't be a boring process of opening and closing windows to get credited.

Now from the advertiser's point of view I really think that the 5 seconds duration is useless if I seek quality.. Very few people will actually pay attention or read something on a site that they only have to look at for 5 seconds and then close it to get paid. Though the price is very low ($5 for 2500 views + Adgrid bonus) but really I won't do it if I'm interested in quality visitors for my site (read, buy something, join a program, etc).

Of course there's nothing wrong with having small packages as well but I really think you should aim the advertisers to the big ones.

Generally speaking we need to help this industry survive after all this negative feedback it has received from the scams and extremely low earning ratios. People need to understand that this industry is here for a reason. To drive actual active visitors on a site that its owner has paid cash to receive.. not to drive mindless bots on a site. We could use autosurfs for free to do that..

So, to sum it up, I would suggest that you keep the expensive package of $20 for 1000 visits of 60 seconds that pay up to $0.01 to users according to their membership type and include a couple of bonuses to make it more appealing to advertisers. You could get creative on that.. how about adding etc. some 10.000 or 20.000 bonus banner impressions in the price or text ad or some time on a static featured ad link. Back in the days when PTCBox had reached ultimate levels people would pay $80 to have their link on the featured ad space for a month.

I definitely agree with you about the view times.  Sometimes the really short times are almost useless.  Although, I have to say that sometimes I'll go do something else while I'm waiting on an ad to time out, if it's something that I'm not interested in or have seen before.  But if it's only 5 or 10 seconds, it's usually easier just to wait, which might technically mean more time viewing the ads.  The bottom line is I'm happy with whatever time the advertiser wants, as long as they're the one with the cash.

I think you package deal idea is wonderful, and I've implemented it almost word for word.  (I hope that's ok)  Hopefully this'll work for me!

Yea, I forgot about Clixsense.  Neobux will let you move to a different window.  I do that sometimes because their standard ads are usually the same, so I've seen most of them hundreds of times.

zanderpm wrote on 21^st May, 2013 at 6:14am:


Well, some referral bonuses could also be interesting.

Maybe add a few to ad or membership purchases or maybe offer some free random referrals to upgraded members.
This will motivate people to upgrade more often.

But since you work with rented referrals then maybe it would be preferable for your site to offer bonus "rented" referrals etc. for a month. This will prevent running out of them since they will expire after a month. It's good that you offer free deletion too, since it won't force anyone to pay a fee he didn't approve.

And also from my experience I've seen that promos do a great job too. Have one or two active at a time.
Bonuses could include gifts that do not cost you anything, like extra refs, non-incentive ads or some days free upgrades.

etc. you could offer a bonus to the top 3 members with the most ad purchases per month.. (<- this could prove really beneficial)
Or to the top 3 members with the most banner - referral - membership upgrades or even total purchases per month.
The top clickers could also be rewarded..

(I suggest the top 3 because if the bonus goes only to the first, members may get discouraged that it will be too hard to beat the competition so they won't even try).

Btw I've decided to join your site and take an inner look and help you through.

Is there anyone that would like to have me as his referral on constantbux?
The first one to post here will get me.. (zanderpm you'll get 2 new members this way.. )

Joined unreferred. Now let's see.