moneymarketing wrote on 19
th Sep, 2014 at 6:03pm:
Thanks for that because we weren't sure on the point. Now that that is cleared up I'll give you an example of how I was being 'paranoid'.
There was a site we were both in. It was a great site and had it run as was promised would have been very lucrative. I started promoting it. I was getting one paid referral per about 5000 hits. This was consistent over many ad campaigns.
Which site was that btw? I might have been in that as well..
Quote:That was all going fine and then I got to the payout threshold and the point where I was able to earn an income from the site. On the very next campaign from the same site my referring stats went from 1 in 5,000 to 1 in 50,000!. After that, it was also impossible for us to get a payout even though he was making a net profit on every position of ours.
So what am I supposed to think?
Dan calls me paranoid. I call it skimming and fudging with the numbers. This also had happened in many sites over the years at that point. The minute you reached threshold the site or your referral rate evaporated. It was the referralbot of that time but of course I had no way to prove it
Well, just like you say there's no way to prove such stuff.. it comes up to how much you trust someone will do it or not..
However, speaking of numbers, if in the beginning it was 1 in 5000 and later on it went to 1 in 50000 it's also not impossible to be a coincidence..
When a program has a small membership database with less than 100 active promoters it might work that well..
But if it becomes popular and it reaches a point of 1000+ active promoters it's kinda normal to drop 1/10 in conversions as the competition rises 10x times as well.. That's why we usually say that it's good to get in early..
I can't say for sure about the program you're talking about, but that's a possibility.
As for bots, it's an unfortunate event they got introduced in this industry.
What I personally think about it is that Neobux was the first to implement them along with the renting system + masked usernames (for the members' security..). If you think about it was the perfect plan..
Members were already too excited about it, especially members that didn't know how to promote or how to maintain a downline.
Masked usernames made it difficult to keep track, and everyone started getting dozens of them daily. I also believe that he made "good use" of bots by implementing variation techniques (it's another 5 minute coding job) to make their activity indistinguishable from how an actual clicker would work like. After some time working with them they would probably not be needed any longer as real members would be enough to replace them.
Still, the neobux script was custom since the beginning so there's no actual way to know what is happening there, and of course I might be paranoid as well.. It's understandable as I have no proof.