Dan Pm'd me about this site. I think it is worthy of a group look here because it does have a lot of things going for it on the surface. Also, I think you guys should get the chance to jump in first after we decide this is good to go and not just get the opportunity to jump in after Dan and I.

The first guy to discover gets the right of joining at the top but for the others it should be a group decision. Maybe we need to start casting lots or something  ;D

With that said, you have seen the benefits in the downline builder. It did hit some of the more serious red flags for me. Two of which are, ironically, reasons why Dan wanted to get in.

The first is because it is brand new. This violates my rule that the site must be two years old to show that it is sustainable and being run right. Dan's case is that there are not many members so it is the classic ground floor opportunity

The second is that it is an exploding member base. This Dan likes. For me it always is something to be cautious about since obviously a big fish (or more) has gotten hold of the site (since someone has a lot of resources to be sending hundreds of referrals per day there). We all know there are people in this industry who will balloon up a site, max out their income and then cripple it and leave by taking most of the money out before it gets very well established. This flag works very well with the two year rule because if a site can survive that, it should establish itself

My only other red flag of concern is who is the ownership and what experience do they have running a site? These things aren't plug and play and if the site owner has not done the math behind the scenes or has not run a site before knowing the numbers by experience already, then there is a good chance they are not prepared for what is coming at them

So these are my main concerns. Otherwise, the site seems to have some good potential and some good revenue options for affiliates. I definitely think it is something worth our consideration as long as we take the caution flags into consideration also

I noticed the entry yesterday and also have a few concerns apart from the ones noted above by MM..
Here are all my findings:

1. First thing I noticed is that the domain name is:

https://www.advertiseormake.money/

..which is a cheap option compared to the standard .com or .net domains which is usually a bad sign for the owner not being wiling to pay enough for a good name that works well with google search results.

2. Then I wanted to check the admins (because there seem to be 2).

From what I can see one of them is Zack Wan and the other one is Haniq Wafi known as KingKong.

I can't tell much for either of those though..

Something I can see is that they love MateBux and are actively promoting it around.
They also promote a program on pre-launch called The Ads Team and can't figure out what exactly it is (other than a spam list builder)..
And they also promote a Bitcoin oriented matrix of some sort called BitDonix.

3. They are not that good at English as I figure on their main headlines (they haven't hired someone to fix their typos either):
"We Research, We Built, We Innovate..."
"Building an effective advertising platform for marketer and those who seeking for making money online."
"A result oriented advertising platform that believe in delivering quality result!"
"An awesome plan for both advertiser and members for a long term earning opportunities."

4. Here's their upgrade table:
http://images.aommsolutions.com/images/c406fca1bbab35a5cb15dc3bbd061220.png

I guess they haven't made a lot of innovations there, however they offer up to 10% referral ad purchase commissions which is cool for us, only not sure how stable that offer can be when thinking about long term..
Plus the upgrade is only available on a monthly basis and costs $5 out of which $1 goes as a commission to (upgraded) upline (which is also cool for us).

5. They only have 1258 (at the time of this post) members which is not much of an interesting audience for large scale advertising.

It's simply a fairly new and not so promising PTC with revenue sharing described as $20 Spent CashBack Up To $23 (115%) - in their homepage. Maybe Dan could provide some inside details on those.

Of course if we all hop in, we could dominate it with DRs, while it's still early.. but I'm not sure referrals will love it..
That's all from me right now.. let me know what you think about it.

Another thing is that the $20 spent on advertising could be any combination.

For instance, I spent 10000 PTC Credits for $15 and 50K Banner Ad Credits (i.e. promoting the BoB exchanger) for $4 and 100000 Featured Ads Credits for $1 for a total of $20.

And earned $0.30 profit sharing on the 1st day.

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Oct, 2016 at 7:11pm:

5. They only have 1258 (at the time of this post) members which is not much of an interesting audience for large scale advertising. It's simply a fairly new and not so promising PTC with revenue sharing described as $20 Spent CashBack Up To $23 (115%) - in their homepage. Maybe Dan could provide some inside details on those. Of course if we all hop in, we could dominate it with DRs, while it's still early.. but I'm not sure referrals will love it.. That's all from me right now.. let me know what you think about it.

1258. They had 700 just a few days ago so they are going up by a couple hundred every day. That is pretty big so there is something big promoting it unless it is just made up numbers on the front or the admins throwing a lot of money up front to promote

I get a bad feeling from this but there is not much risk in joining and that monthly upgrade fee is cheap. If it is being promoted like crazy then it might be good for advertising but the advertising is expensive for it's size

I guess the growth could be connected to the PTP. That would explain a lot

It also says 238 new members today as of 2:35 pm EST.

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Oct, 2016 at 9:35pm:

It also says 238 new members today as of 2:35 pm EST.

Yes, and that's a lot. especially for a site with only 1200+ members. Consider that paidverts gets about 1400+ per day with over 2 million members. Something is a bit out of whack there but it is also not impossible to do if you have a good team promoting you

Is their profit sharing based on a variable or fixed daily amount?

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Oct, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Is their profit sharing based on a variable or fixed daily amount?

I earned another $0.30 on the 2nd day. Although I think it's variable.

Quote:

Published on 08-10-2016 Hello All, AOMM are getting attention from this industry, for this past 3 days AOMM team been busy communicating with leaders hearing the suggestion, feedback and ways to make AOMM to a greater height. All suggestion and feedback will take into consideration and as for now nothing will change our plan have been deeply researched and thru a lot of brainstorming among the team so no major changes will be made on our plan structure. We working towards to give an advertising platform where it's affordable, effective and to be a mark whenever advertising needs they need, AOMM will always be on their mind. Our profit share is a big advantage for our advertiser, A cost saving way to advertise and getting cash back thru our profit share system. So take this seriously our profit share is not an investment. Daily distribution is not guaranteed we share our profit nothing is fixed the only thing is guaranteed is the service you bought will be delivered. We take security our priority this platform is made to help both new and season marketer, promoter, advertiser etc to make money online in a stable stress-free environment. Therefore if you think to cheat or get rich quick here, think twice. This our first weekend we are operating 24/7 support ticket will be answered as soon as our staff see it. however, expect a longer waiting period as the manpower are reduce to half during weekends. We wish everyone a great weekend! Do join AOMM Facebook Group Thank You KingKong

Yes, English isn't their first language obviously so we'll have to give a pass on that. Sebas struggles with that too but even still sometimes they are better than I am and I only have one language  ;D

If these guys can turn into another Sebas they can write as bad as they want

:)

anyway, I wasn't posting about the grammar but the substance

I earned $0.30 profit sharing for the 3rd day in a row.

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Oct, 2016 at 12:54pm:

I earned $0.30 profit sharing for the 3rd day in a row.

It seems to be working stably and the site now has 1981 members.

At that rate it takes 67 days to hit ROI (of $20) and 77 days to get back $23 where the share matures.

That's a good rate and it's not like promising the sky.. it's a lower return than FC and YGP and faster than both.

So maybe it's a good idea.. if direct referrals stay active it may be well profitable in the long term.

Since the advertising value provided with shares is interesting, I'm getting interested in the program as well.

Should I join or should someone else get under Dan before me?

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2016 at 7:48pm:

It seems to be working stably and the site now has 1981 members. At that rate it takes 67 days to hit ROI (of $20) and 77 days to get back $23 where the share matures. That's a good rate and it's not like promising the sky.. it's a lower return than FC and YGP and faster than both. So maybe it's a good idea.. if direct referrals stay active it may be well profitable in the long term. Since the advertising value provided with shares is interesting, I'm getting interested in the program as well. Should I join or should someone else get under Dan before me?

You are welcome to it from my perspective

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Oct, 2016 at 8:41pm:

You are welcome to it from my perspective

Well, that means yes, right? (sorry English is still not my mother tongue.. [smiley=lolx.gif])

As far as, I know, Rui doesn't like new programs but since I kind of owe him for FamilyClix, I'd like to hear his opinion on this one as well and maybe return the favor if he's interested on this one.

[edit]By the way, do we need to click daily to earn from share profits?[/edit]

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2016 at 10:33pm:

Well, that means yes, right? (sorry English is still not my mother tongue.. [smiley=lolx.gif]) As far as, I know, Rui doesn't like new programs but since I kind of owe him for FamilyClix, I'd like to hear his opinion on this one as well and maybe return the favor if he's interested on this one. [edit]By the way, do we need to click daily to earn from share profits?[/edit]

apparently it is not mine either  ;D

Yes, you can go for it

I'll pass on this one. Too young for my tastes.
Whenever I didn't obey my self-made rule of not investing in sites older than a year and a half, I ended up losing money most of the time.
So, better stick to my guns and stick with MILFs.



Btw, that's Matures I'd Like to add Funds
:P

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 8:31am:

apparently it is not mine either  ;D Yes, you can go for it

Well, thanks for keeping it simple..  ;D


ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 1:03pm:

I'll pass on this one. Too young for my tastes. Whenever I didn't obey my self-made rule of not investing in sites older than a year and a half, I ended up losing money most of the time. So, better stick to my guns and stick with MILFs. Btw, that's Matures I'd Like to add Funds :P

It's almost what I had in mind..  :cool1

Well, then.. it seems I'm going in..  8-)

Dan are you upgraded there?
I'll let you know if I'm about to purchase anything, for now I'll just promote it for some DRs, do some clicks and see how the site works in overall.

Also please let me know if the PTC ad there for Clixsense (DanielDz username) is yours in order not to click it and waste your credits..

SolidSnake wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Well, thanks for keeping it simple..  ;D It's almost what I had in mind..  :cool1 Well, then.. it seems I'm going in..  8-) Dan are you upgraded there? I'll let you know if I'm about to purchase anything, for now I'll just promote it for some DRs, do some clicks and see how the site works in overall. Also please let me know if the PTC ad there for Clixsense (DanielDz username) is yours in order not to click it and waste your credits..

Yes. I see you joined. And yes I'm already upgraded. Thanks. 8-)

And no that ad isn't mine. Thanks for asking though.

ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 1:03pm:

I'll pass on this one. Too young for my tastes. Whenever I didn't obey my self-made rule of not investing in sites older than a year and a half, I ended up losing money most of the time. So, better stick to my guns and stick with MILFs. Btw, that's Matures I'd Like to add Funds :P

that's sort of how the other acronym works too  [smiley=lolx.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Well, thanks for keeping it simple..  ;D It's almost what I had in mind..  :cool1 Well, then.. it seems I'm going in..  8-) Dan are you upgraded there? I'll let you know if I'm about to purchase anything, for now I'll just promote it for some DRs, do some clicks and see how the site works in overall. Also please let me know if the PTC ad there for Clixsense (DanielDz username) is yours in order not to click it and waste your credits..

So get to it boys and let us know if you get any anomalies. I'll probably get in soon and throw $50 or so at it soon enough

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2016 at 10:33pm:

[edit]By the way, do we need to click daily to earn from share profits?[/edit]

It doesn't say anything about it. And we'd be better off not to ask. I do some clicking anyway.

Well, I've launched a bunch of campaigns based on stacked advertising I had:

100.000 banner impressions on BoB
100.000 banner impressions on TrafficG
156.000 banner impressions on FamilyClix
30 PPC credits on YGP using the 468x60 banner
30 PPC credits on YGP using the 728x90 banner
30 PPC credits on YGP using the 125x125 banner
A SpotL2 banner ad on PTCBox.Me Ads
A simple 50 x 30 seconds campaign on Paidverts
...and a few more impressions through some TEs.

Let's see how it will go.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 11^th Oct, 2016 at 11:14pm:

Well, I've launched a bunch of campaigns based on stacked advertising I had: 100.000 banner impressions on BoB 100.000 banner impressions on TrafficG 156.000 banner impressions on FamilyClix 30 PPC credits on YGP using the 468x60 banner 30 PPC credits on YGP using the 728x90 banner 30 PPC credits on YGP using the 125x125 banner A SpotL2 banner ad on PTCBox.Me Ads A simple 50 x 30 seconds campaign on Paidverts ...and a few more impressions through some TEs. Let's see how it will go.. :)

Ok, good luck! :)

SS,

Let me know if you plan to make a purchase at AOMM. This way we could check to see if the commissions are working. Thanks.

dansbanners wrote on 12^th Oct, 2016 at 7:51pm:

SS, Let me know if you plan to make a purchase at AOMM. This way we could check to see if the commissions are working. Thanks.

Of course! ;)

I'm still thinking about it.

Btw, I've noticed that 100 rented referrals on AOMM cost $9.. that's $0.09 per ref.. this would offer a lot of potential on a typical PTC.

However if they only have 2749 members and they already sell 100s of RRs we know what kind of "beings" they are..  ::)

I think a share is a more viable option since it includes useful advertising.

[edit]If just earning with shares there's no need for an upgrade too, so that's also nice about them.[/edit]

Does it allow using smartphone? Previously trafficmonsoon didn't allow, but LeadsLeap is fine with smartphone.

venkat wrote on 14^th Oct, 2016 at 10:35am:

Does it allow using smartphone? Previously trafficmonsoon didn't allow, but LeadsLeap is fine with smartphone.

That I do not know. I use computer all the time for internet marketing.

SS, do you know?

dansbanners wrote on 14^th Oct, 2016 at 3:06pm:

That I do not know. I use computer all the time for internet marketing. SS, do you know?

Well, they state nothing in their T.o.S. against them, there's no discussion about it in the forum and their main banner they provided for promoting is this:

http://www.advertiseormake.money/banner2.gif

..so I assume they have nothing against mobile devices if not even recommending them..

I've been using smartphones and tablets for a few years now with many programs including YGP, PV, FC and never faced any issues either.

As long as we stick to their rules about "One account per IP" and "No Proxy Servers" there shouldn't be a problem.

I got my first referral and out of all sources he came from a small PTC campaign I run AdzPot.org?!?  :o

Well, that was unexpected..   :)

SolidSnake wrote on 15^th Oct, 2016 at 9:07am:

I got my first referral and out of all sources he came from a small PTC campaign I run AdzPot.org?!?  :o Well, that was unexpected..   :)

Great! However, I think you should remove the rolling eye graphic. Cause getting a referral is something positive. IMHO.

Otherwise, keep up the great work! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Oct, 2016 at 1:07pm:

Great! However, I think you should remove the rolling eye graphic. Cause getting a referral is something positive. IMHO. Otherwise, keep up the great work! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

The rolling eye basically went to AdzPot.. having less than 100 active clickers, it was the least probable campaign to get me an actual direct referral..

Just 2 days ago I was talking to Marijoy about it becoming a ghost site and all of a sudden it got me a ref that actually did 30 clicks yesterday..  :D

I'm also running a limited 1000 daily visitors campaign on Clixten for 5 days but had no luck there yet..

Affiliate marketing works in strange ways sometimes..  ;D

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Oct, 2016 at 12:22am:

The rolling eye basically went to AdzPot.. having less than 100 active clickers, it was the least probable campaign to get me an actual direct referral.. Just 2 days ago I was talking to Marijoy about it becoming a ghost site and all of a sudden it got me a ref that actually did 30 clicks yesterday..  :D I'm also running a limited 1000 daily visitors campaign on Clixten for 5 days but had no luck there yet.. Affiliate marketing works in strange ways sometimes..  ;D

But a rolling eye is usually an indicative that something is negative. I think getting a referral should be perceived as a positive regardless of the situation.

For instance, if you're on a sports team, you don't go "Yes we won but...". Just take the win as it is and build on from it.

dansbanners wrote on 16^th Oct, 2016 at 1:13am:

But a rolling eye is usually an indicative that something is negative. I think getting a referral should be perceived as a positive regardless of the situation. For instance, if you're on a sports team, you don't go "Yes we won but...". Just take the win as it is and build on from it.

Well, I fixed that as I probably used the wrong emoticon for the right expression..  :)

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Oct, 2016 at 1:19am:

Well, I fixed that as I probably used the wrong emoticon for the right expression..  :)

Yes. It looks better now. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 12^th Oct, 2016 at 10:12pm:

However if they only have 2749 members...

The program now has more than 4,000 members. :)

The domain doesn't also expire till 6-17-2021.

I liked what I've seen of this post. Whereas the admin was not only courteous in his reply but also implemented my suggestion. Changing "Advertise here for $5" to "Earn $ to Promote This Page" which I thought was for the better :)

http://www.advertiseormake.money/forum.php?topic=322

dansbanners wrote on 17^th Oct, 2016 at 2:49pm:

I liked what I've seen of this post. Whereas the admin was not only courteous in his reply but also implemented my suggestion. Changing "Advertise here for $5" to "Earn $ to Promote This Page" which I thought was for the better :) http://www.advertiseormake.money/forum.php?topic=322

Still growing fast. Good to see

Have you tried promoting it? Any results?

I see passive tools is there. Huge player in paidverts. That could be where all the referrals are coming from

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Oct, 2016 at 7:24pm:

I see passive tools is there. Huge player in paidverts. That could be where all the referrals are coming from

Perhaps, maybe some of the referrals. I also see some of the referrals coming from Clixsense.

I've had 3 referrals thus far whereas two of them have already been active, clicking and all. In addition to SS, the other one is also an experienced net marketer as well.

dansbanners wrote on 17^th Oct, 2016 at 7:55pm:

Perhaps, maybe some of the referrals. I also see some of the referrals coming from Clixsense. I've had 3 referrals thus far whereas two of them have already been active, clicking and all. In addition to SS, the other one is also an experienced net marketer as well.

there is also a fixed ad at neobux

Looking at the referral contest, it's pretty much spread out with the most getting just 72 referrals (i.e. as opposed to your thinking that it was just one member getting most of them) within the last 7 days.

They now have more than 5,000 members. Getting referrals when the program is new is usually a good time to get them.

Here's a nice page from AOMM Solutions:

https://aommsolutions.com/

dansbanners wrote on 18^th Oct, 2016 at 5:59pm:

They now have more than 5,000 members. Getting referrals when the program is new is usually a good time to get them. Here's a nice page from AOMM Solutions: https://aommsolutions.com/

Yep, it's the page I was reviewing in point 3 of my first post in this thread..

It's a nice page from the designer's point of view, but they definitely need someone with better English knowledge to do the writing, cause there are so many typos and syntax errors it's barely making sense..

Announcement from AOMM:


Quote:

Technical Error and Issues Hello, We having some technical issue with some link that directs back to the homepage. At times the site is slow due to someone not happy with our growth, we under DDOS. Server guys are handling it well so far. So bare with it if the site is slow. Payment on all processor will be delay all will go thru audit before we proceed with payment. Standard members are able to click 20 ads daily due to we caught a number of members using AUTOCLICKER some kind of bots. We are manually tracking cheater as we going to implement add-on to auto detect and ban cheater we have to lower down the click. Thank you for your patience Regards

I'm alright with the issues, they are normal for a new site..
I could bare with the 20 ads daily rules though some would not like it..
But they seriously need a proof reader.. this is looking ridiculous..

Btw @Venkat, if you go by the username "singh1989dharmveer" I confirm that you are on my downline.
Did you face any issues with browsing it on mobile device?

I haven't signed up yet.

Previously TrafficMonsoon allowed me to sign up with mobile phone but prevented me from surfing via mobile phone. So, I just don't want to give my personal info, if I couldn't use the site. I am about to buy a laptop soon. I may give a try then.

I've just checked through my smartphone and it works normally.

I can login, browse the site, view my account, view advertisements etc.

A plus I've noticed is that their site is actually responsive to lower resolutions unlike most PTC sites, so they definitely spent some extra time or money to make it work well on a mobile device.

So, it seems that they're actually targeting people with mobile devices, since it's the new trend to surf on smartphones now.

You can check it out without signing up.. just browse through their various sections (home, advertise, view advertisements) and you'll see it.

Apart from these, they seem to be facing some generic issues right now, payments are disabled for 2 days, plus the forum is disabled and admin said something about DDOS attacks already, so we have to wait for another quick update as he said.

The announcement came..:


Quote:

Major Update Hello All, As promised, we will finalise everything today. We are not able to continue with giving an opportunity to our advertiser thus we decided to stop all profit sharing and give a whole restructure on our advertising platform. Due to we not wasting any more time on fixing what is damage on our database and ALSO the reputation loss that had be ruin all over saying we scam! So what going to happen is we will FULL refund all our advertiser that who are NOT in profit. The deduction will be on what you had withdrawn and commission that we had pay out to your upline, all the used advertising credits is a bonus from us. The process is just to send an email to aommsolutions@gmail.com we will then verify and sent you the refund. Payza user who still had dispute may close or you can forget about getting it back. Please send with the email that you register at AOMM Subject - AOMM Refund - "Your username" Amount - $ Total Withdrawn - Processor ID -

So, they already cancel revenue sharing and restructure their advertising whole model..  :dontknow

At least they're refunding everyone and starting from scratch.

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Nov, 2016 at 6:47pm:

The announcement came..: So, they already cancel revenue sharing and restructure their advertising whole model..  :dontknow At least they're refunding everyone and starting from scratch.

Wow. That didn't take long  [smiley=sad.gif]

This is why they hit so many of my flags. New site, high revenue, new owners. It is kind of sad they did not even number crunch the revenue model. You would think they would have at least done that  ::)

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Nov, 2016 at 10:02pm:

This is why they hit so many of my flags. New site, high revenue, new owners. It is kind of sad they did not even number crunch the revenue model. You would think they would have at least done that  ::)

On the other hand, here's my Clixsense PTCBox campaign's stats. Whereas all I did was to place a couple of text links on the PTCBox's main page:


Quote:

207,902 - unique clicks  229,227 - total clicks 186 - premium signups 6,862 - total signups $5,644.05 - earned

Not to also mention how much I earned in PTCBox promoting it in Clixsense (i.e. which I no longer have the stats).

Just to put it in perspective that joining a "new program" could also work the other way around just as well. ;)

dansbanners wrote on 14^th Nov, 2016 at 11:35pm:

On the other hand, here's my Clixsense PTCBox campaign's stats. Whereas all I did was to place a couple of text links on the PTCBox's main page: Not to also mention how much I earned in PTCBox promoting it in Clixsense (i.e. which I no longer have the stats). Just to put it in perspective that joining a "new program" could also work the other way around just as well. ;)

The flags are referring to joining a site to spend money and earn. That is entirely different from advertising which is usually much lower risk since the time frame for getting your ROI is usually shorter (or it should be since you always want to test market an ad before you make a larger purchase)

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Nov, 2016 at 7:55am:

The flags are referring to joining a site to spend money and earn. That is entirely different from advertising which is usually much lower risk since the time frame for getting your ROI is usually shorter (or it should be since you always want to test market an ad before you make a larger purchase)

We did originally join PTCBox to spend and earn. And it turned out to be a fantastic bonus that we also happen to benefit from advertising in it tremendously. Not to also mention getting tons of members in a downline within a short time. Which is why sometime I'm willing to join a new program to try to recapture that success.

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Nov, 2016 at 1:17pm:

We did originally join PTCBox to spend and earn. And it turned out to be a fantastic bonus that we also happen to benefit from advertising in it tremendously. Not to also mention getting tons of members in a downline within a short time. Which is why sometime I'm willing to join a new program to try to recapture that success.

That's debatable. Sucess for some means failure for others. I was somehow in the middle, with only a marginal loss.

Well, sticking to the AOMM subject, at least they're honest enough to be transparent about their problems and kind enough to refund anyone granting them bonus advertising.

That's kind of a good will move IMO, it means that they didn't plan to scam anyone, they are just inexperienced and didn't plan well enough.

Their good intentions may give them an advantage on their restructured come-back, as their members may decide to stay loyal just to return the favor..

This worked well with Neobux numerous times back in the days..

SolidSnake wrote on 15^th Nov, 2016 at 3:50pm:

Well, sticking to the AOMM subject, at least they're honest enough to be transparent about their problems and kind enough to refund anyone granting them bonus advertising. That's kind of a good will move IMO, it means that they didn't plan to scam anyone, they are just inexperienced and didn't plan well enough. Their good intentions may give them an advantage on their restructured come-back, as their members may decide to stay loyal just to return the favor.. This worked well with Neobux numerous times back in the days..

Be careful going forward. Just like MTV in the past they may have to try things a few times before they get it right

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Nov, 2016 at 6:45pm:

Be careful going forward. Just like MTV in the past they may have to try things a few times before they get it right

Yep, don't worry, I still haven't invested any money in them apart from some free advertising I have stockpiled.

If they go well after the rebuild, I may consider doing so, but not close yet.
I'll firstly work with direct referrals until there is a standard small flow, then I'll push that through investing.

After 3 weeks there's still no update on this project.. which is concerning for any site.

This along with the absence of the forum for sometime now, gives the members the picture of a ghost site running with no administrator..

I ran some tests on some of their older links and figured out that even though they deactivated the forum link the forum is still accessible publicly using the following link:

http://www.advertiseormake.money/forum.php?

So, I went ahead and posted in the Doubts & Questions section to see if there's anyone actually monitoring the site from the administration side.

Looks like AOMM is a goner now.. their domain expired.

At least I got the refund.

dansbanners wrote on 5^th Jan, 2017 at 2:09pm:

At least I got the refund.

Yes, at least they were decent guys, which is why I don't think they were trying to scam people.. it was just a bad plan.

Had they been scamming they would just become silent till the bomb explodes..

I just posted it as a final update because, there probably won't be any more news about them in the future.

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Jan, 2017 at 3:21pm:

Yes, at least they were decent guys, which is why I don't think they were trying to scam people.. it was just a bad plan. Had they been scamming they would just become silent till the bomb explodes.. I just posted it as a final update because, there probably won't be any more news about them in the future.

Me thinks some members are a little too quick to say "scam! scam!" every time a program runs into a little problem. Sometime it's not good for the morale and could also actually make the program worse. IMHO.

dansbanners wrote on 5^th Jan, 2017 at 10:56pm:

Me thinks some members are a little too quick to say "scam! scam!" every time a program runs into a little problem. Sometime it's not good for the morale and could also actually make the program worse. IMHO.

It is very much a sink or swim industry. Programs are tossed into the deep end and they either better know what they are doing or they will drown.

This is probably because people in this industry have been so badly burned that they are quick to abandon and slow to trust. They want proof of success up front which means PO's better know what they are doing before they start. People won't stick with new programs that haven't done their homework

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th Jan, 2017 at 8:52am:

It is very much a sink or swim industry. Programs are tossed into the deep end and they either better know what they are doing or they will drown. This is probably because people in this industry have been so badly burned that they are quick to abandon and slow to trust. They want proof of success up front which means PO's better know what they are doing before they start. People won't stick with new programs that haven't done their homework

We've had two programs that started from some members here. We all know how those went. The PTC world is no place for small fish.

Like I pointed in another post, one could also really benefit from "getting in early". To this day, I'm still benefiting from getting in early in PTCBox. So, it could just as well work both ways.