This site had so much potential. What they would do is take investments from investors to build programs (like money making games etc.). When those programs started earning income for the site, they would pay back the investors with a return on investment approaching HYIP. The thing is it wasn't ponzi because they were actually producing products.

A year ago, supposedly due to the site bogging down in all the debt, ownership(due to having majority of shares and thus majority vote), decided to do a debt swap for shares. They offered shares for 50 cents in the swap and said this was a once only issue. The shares crashed to 10 cents but the site survived based on the claims of the management.

Fast forward one year: The site shares just recently recovered and touched 38 cents, the site has built many programs and they are paying a steady dividend. So just as the site is beginning to settle down into stability, ownership had decided they want to do another debt swap, this time for shares at 71 cents.

This was just announced and already the shares have crashed to 23 cents

Since this issue keeps coming up, I have to announce a potential scam warning. Ownership is breaking their terms of service and forcing changes that they promised they would never do again.

For more info on the topic you can catch up here:

http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/using_value_to_clear_debt/1.html

Well, they processed their debt swap and, despite a bit of screaming in the forum, it seems people have accepted it and are still investing. The shares have predictably taken a hit and lost about 50% of their trading value at the time of the announcement(and are 75% below their swap price). This is sad  :(

This is a real time lab of how politicians get away with the garbage they get away with I think  :-[

Owner is now using funds to buy himself a 'company' car.

I kid you not   :money ::) :D [smiley=lolx.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 26^th Oct, 2013 at 12:12am:

Owner is now using funds to buy himself a 'company' car. I kid you not   :money ::) :D [smiley=lolx.gif]

I'd love to have a link to that.. :)
It would make this topic more related to the "Funny Stuff" section though..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 26^th Oct, 2013 at 1:08am:

I'd love to have a link to that.. :) It would make this topic more related to the "Funny Stuff" section though..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

The forum discussion is here:

http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/news/25_10_2013_565_5958_paid_out_today/1.html#p8433

Well, at first reading it I really thought it was too ridiculous to believe.. :)
But he actually did it and there's a picture of it in his facebook page..
Ok it's not a ferrari or sth, it's a Golf GTI and their explanation on that is :


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People could think, "You run an investment business and can't afford a car?"

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It's a mad mad world...

Just a heads up here. These guys are launching a PTC that you will probably hear about very soon in the industry. I am most definitely mixed on the subject. The idea can be potentially revolutionary, the downside is still the admin. Despite all the shares floating around MTV he still has majority control of the site and tends to make rash decisions. He goes off about how he wants to discuss a change but soon makes it known his mind is already made up.

On a scale of one to ten the admin is a two or three.

I'm going to sit this one out but I can afford to because I'm still a member of MTV(I didn't have much choice since he has converted all our cash to shares twice now). MTV stands to take profits for the new PTC as the owner and creator of paidverts. They are the parent site.

Anyway, you might want to read up on it because it will be front and center soon enough and you might be tempted to join. I'm not saying don't join. It might be great for advertising and earnings initially. I'm saying be very cautious because of the fickle ownership. You really could lose everything you invest if he decides it is not living up to his expectations

Here is the discussion page regarding what is coming

http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/questions/what_is_paidverts_and_how_will_it_work.html

Don't ask me to explain much because I have been very disinterested due to the fact I don't plan to join or promote until the dust is well settled

Don't worry about it MM..
Like they say..  "There's plenty of fish in the sea.." or as it is said in greek...
"There are orange trees elsewhere.. that produce oranges.." funnier I guess.. :)

These guys have launched

http://www.paidverts.com

moneymarketing wrote on 1^st Apr, 2014 at 7:17am:

These guys have launched http://www.paidverts.com

Did they buy a new company car for the new site?  [smiley=lolx.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 1^st Apr, 2014 at 10:11am:

Did they buy a new company car for the new site?  [smiley=lolx.gif]

;D

Maybe a new jet or something.  :D

He has been on pretty good behavior of late. I suppose that is because investors have not been too keen to give him more money

This paidverts thing could go either way. This almost has the potential of what Clixsense was in its origin. Back then CS was a payment processor called Stormpay. Maybe many here already know the story. SP was shut down by government regulators but they had the CS PTC site running on the side. It was a way to bring advertising to SP business accounts.

Because CS was paying a penny per click, (unheard of at the time) it started to become very popular, survived and thrived


I'm thinking that paidverts has the same potential after having a rough start as MTV. The ownership is still the wild card. Is he going to grow up, settle down and run an honest business or is he going to continue his Jekyll and Hyde act? I'm hoping that if this takes off he will actually grow up and act like a responsible business person

Well, paidverts seems to have started off well. You can see their cash flow here:

http://mytrafficvalue.com/monetization/paidverts.html

I think this is about average what a PTC earns and is informative at least

Humble but positive. It is responsible for a huge inflow of members to MTV. About 200 per day (I think they are combining the member count). They are being a little sneaky because now they can get shown on PTC sites with PV who then links to MTV. There is no way that MTV would be allowed on many PTC sites due to it having gambling and being considered a HYIP. So they are kind of 'laundering' members

This is  adding 200 - 300 members per day so maybe it is time to reconsider it as a legitimate opportunity. The problem with the site is that it kept running low on cash. Maybe they have finally solved that problem by adding their PTC

moneymarketing wrote on 20^th Apr, 2014 at 1:19pm:

This is  adding 200 - 300 members per day so maybe it is time to reconsider it as a legitimate opportunity. The problem with the site is that it kept running low on cash. Maybe they have finally solved that problem by adding their PTC

Sorry but using a PTC program to help them with funding of another program sounds kinda too weird to me..
Usually it works the other way around..  ;D

SolidSnake wrote on 20^th Apr, 2014 at 7:00pm:

Sorry but using a PTC program to help them with funding of another program sounds kinda too weird to me.. Usually it works the other way around..  ;D

The parent site is the one that funded the building of the PTC so the PTC is sort of like the subsidiary. Thus they send all profits to the main site not only to pay for the costs of building but also because the parent site owns the subsidiary.

Kind of like Google France (or you tube, etc.) sending all profits to Google corp. international. It runs as a separate entity

moneymarketing wrote on 20^th Apr, 2014 at 8:19pm:

The parent site is the one that funded the building of the PTC so the PTC is sort of like the subsidiary. Thus they send all profits to the main site not only to pay for the costs of building but also because the parent site owns the subsidiary. Kind of like Google France (or you tube, etc.) sending all profits to Google corp. international. It runs as a separate entity

The reason I wrote that above is mainly due to the fact that the first year in any PTC's life is very expensive to the owner or the company that runs it.

So I doubt that it will drive any profits to the main site.. on the other hand I believe it would draw a big amount of money away from it, if it's meant to survive..

But, I guess the owner is wealthy enough to work it out..
(He even has a company car, remember?  ;))

SolidSnake wrote on 21^st Apr, 2014 at 3:12am:

The reason I wrote that above is mainly due to the fact that the first year in any PTC's life is very expensive to the owner or the company that runs it. So I doubt that it will drive any profits to the main site.. on the other hand I believe it would draw a big amount of money away from it, if it's meant to survive.. But, I guess the owner is wealthy enough to work it out.. (He even has a company car, remember?  ;))

They are turning a profit. One of the positive aspects of the site is their transparency

http://mytrafficvalue.com/monetization/paidverts.html

moneymarketing wrote on 21^st Apr, 2014 at 7:53am:

They are turning a profit. One of the positive aspects of the site is their transparency http://mytrafficvalue.com/monetization/paidverts.html

Alright then.. I guess I'm removing it from the warning list for now..

3rd post down

http://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/news/sat_26th_april_daily_news/3.html

I must admit, it is really cool to be able to watch a PTC grow.

This site is growing like crazy.

They now have over 48K members and have been approved for Paypal, egopay, payza and bitcoin. They are currently working on getting paypal mass pay going.

They also are generating about $1000 in revenues each day so this has achieved a new level of credibility if you ask me

I assume you are talking about paidverts right?

Btw, I've just noticed a top left advertising spot on MyTrafficValue :

http://i.imgur.com/R4Ezaac.png

It gets rented through bidding and it seems it's not that difficult as the current advertiser got it just with $0.10..
Do you think it would be worth a shot to promote there?

[edit]I've also noticed that the same goes for the 728x90 banner ad on the top right..
This is getting interesting... what do you think?[/edit]

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Jun, 2014 at 1:22am:

I assume you are talking about paidverts right? Btw, I've just noticed a top left advertising spot on MyTrafficValue : http://i.imgur.com/R4Ezaac.png It gets rented through bidding and it seems it's not that difficult as the current advertiser got it just with $0.10.. Do you think it would be worth a shot to promote there? [edit]I've also noticed that the same goes for the 728x90 banner ad on the top right.. This is getting interesting... what do you think?[/edit]

I think that traffic around there would now justify the price but remember that it is only for an hour. The better deal is the side banners and they run for an entire day. The problem is that the queue is so very long. I've tried to get them to fix that but to no avail.

Here is the link to the current bid cost.

http://mytrafficvalue.com/campaign/auction.html

If you click on the individual banner number you'll see how many impressions/clicks the banner gets. Just remember that it displays the clicks from all the campaigns on the banner like this one. Even still, when I have run a campaign I was satisfied with the results. I've had referrals sign up to MFS, YGP and BestE from those banner spots

http://mytrafficvalue.com/campaign/auction/7.html

As a side bonus, if you join and become a shareholder, part of your advertising goes back to you in the form of dividends and eventually a higher share price. So you are helping yourself out there

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Jun, 2014 at 1:22am:

I assume you are talking about paidverts right? Btw, I've just noticed a top left advertising spot on MyTrafficValue : http://i.imgur.com/R4Ezaac.png It gets rented through bidding and it seems it's not that difficult as the current advertiser got it just with $0.10.. Do you think it would be worth a shot to promote there? [edit]I've also noticed that the same goes for the 728x90 banner ad on the top right.. This is getting interesting... what do you think?[/edit]

If you do try promoting in there I suggest you use a tracker to see how many clicks you're getting from it. Unless they provide that stats for you.

And do you know how their "Add a new listing from $5.50. Insert your referral link by default and earn 10% of upgrades!" works?

Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 9^th Jun, 2014 at 12:49am:

If you do try promoting in there I suggest you use a tracker to see how many clicks you're getting from it. Unless they provide that stats for you. And do you know how their "Add a new listing from $5.50. Insert your referral link by default and earn 10% of upgrades!" works? Thanks!

I have no idea as I'm not on the program..
I was hoping MM could provide some more info..

dansbanners wrote on 9^th Jun, 2014 at 12:49am:

If you do try promoting in there I suggest you use a tracker to see how many clicks you're getting from it. Unless they provide that stats for you. And do you know how their "Add a new listing from $5.50. Insert your referral link by default and earn 10% of upgrades!" works? Thanks!

That is their monitor program. Basically you can have a program added that they will invest in and they report if it is paying over the long term. It is popular among HYIP sites as many of them promote programs that die quickly.

I haven't really tested it because I wasn't putting any extra income into the program and the member base was still small. Now that the member base is growing along with my income, I may test it in the future but I think there are better advertising opportunities there like their paidverts site

Latest email from the admin:


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The Shares Opportunity Explained - One more time! Hey, I just want to re-iterate this shares opportunity. As it's a crystal clear way to make an incredible amount of money: PaidVerts uses 50% of every ad pack purchased, to re-invest at My Traffic Value. Basically by buying shares and reselling them 2.5x higher. As these shares mature; it enables PV to issue ridiculously huge daily ad issues. Which sets PaidVerts a million miles ahead of our competition. And that copetition is huge; they have millions of members! With websites in the top 100 most trafficed websites in the entire world. And we can put them to shame! So that market is ours for the taking. its enourmous, and holds hundreds of millions of dollars worth of value. Which we can take full advantage of with our PV-MTV combo! So PV is constantly buying up shares and reselling them 2.5x higher on the marketplace. Even if that means its buying its own shares, and re-listing them higher. So the share price is going up and up, and there's no ceiling on it. The bigger PV gets; the more shares it'll buy, the higher the price will climb, the more of its investments will mature. And the bigger and bigger it's ad issues will become! Resulting in more and more members; more and more traffic value. More people to buy ads, to invest, to be exposed and utilize our upcoming / other products, businesses and services that MTV is building just as fast as it can... And just everything grows, and every aspect of My Traffic Value makes more money! You can already see proof of this in our results. They've increased 3fold in 2months from ~$200-300/day to over $1000 per day! --- So, the share price is climbing!! The faster it climbs, the better PV becomes, and the faster it'll grow! The more it grows, the more ad packs will be purchased daily; and the more it'll buy up shares to rocket the price. And the more that happens, the bigger everything gets. Creating the fundamental value that the increasing share price represents. And look at our daily revenues: http://mytrafficvalue.com/results.html ... $1000+ per day already. This is working! And it can be a 1000x bigger!

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What are we looking for? We need the biggest possible capital injection into purchasing up shares. This will spike the price! And that will spike PV's results at the best possible time... And then absolutely everything will explode in value / earning potential. PV will become enourmous! MTV will become enourmous! And our portfolio will become world class in the blink of an eye! If someone puts $50-$100k into snapping up shares at $0.50-$1 each right now. MTV could easily be worth tens of millions by the end of the year. And a share price of $5-$15/share will be entirely possible. Check out the marketplace: http://mytrafficvalue.com/shareholders.html 1) Fund your account via the cashier at the top of the page. 2) Buy up shares. 3) Earn weekly dividends on our turnover, whilst you resell your shares at whatever higher value you like. Or hang onto them a little while, they might be worth an absolute fortune by Christmas. Huge huge opportunity. What is the Risk? ... Well, the more shares you buy; the more certain the outcome will be. That is a fact. As by buying shares you are making PV incredible. It's already a huge success in its own right, it's grown to 11,000 active users in 2months. We've got almost 50,000 users registered at MTV (up from 5k at the start of the year). So by investing, you are going to initiate a series of events which can only lead to growth. If PaidVerts pays well; how exactly are less people going to participate? Obviously more will join, more will buy ads to increase their earning potential on the back of the oppportunity that's happening right in front of them. That they've already tested, and we have 11,000+ active users earning daily, that can vouch for us. Saying this works! This pays! And this is awesome! A Paid To Click like no other I cannot understate the opportunity right in front of you, right now! The unique combination of MTV and PV. It's really impressive. MTV is growing PV. And PV is going to utterly explode MTV; give it all the financing in the world to snowball our portfolio bigger than you can ever imagine. And we've got 50,000+ people to promote all our stuff to absolutely free of charge. They all have a vested interest in using it. It's a dream situation. Get in early! You've already procrastinated on a 25x return on investment this year already. Don't let the next 25x price increase pass you by. $100,000 buying up shares at $0.50. Will give you 200,000 shares. If over the next 6-12months we turn that into $10/share. You're laughing. You'll have turned $100k into $2million. And what are the risks? Virtually nothing; if you have any doubts as to our credability; come meet us! The website is transparent. Everything makes sense. It's in everyones best interests, that you invest, that we pay, then everything gets 100x bigger! And why wouldn't it? Give it a go. This is the one. We've spent 3years building the groundwork for this opportunity. And it's time for it to come to fruition!

Is it just me or he's a bit too confident?

Have they got reviewed by PayPal recently?
How safe are they from that point of view?

What if tomorrow PayPal notices that weird activity raise and decides to review their account for a few weeks..
Will the site survive such a hit?

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Is it just me or he's a bit too confident? Have they got reviewed by PayPal recently? How safe are they from that point of view? What if tomorrow PayPal notices that weird activity raise and decides to review their account for a few weeks.. Will the site survive such a hit?

Maybe you think or talk about such things too much. Just saying.

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 2:35pm:

Is it just me or he's a bit too confident? Have they got reviewed by PayPal recently? How safe are they from that point of view? What if tomorrow PayPal notices that weird activity raise and decides to review their account for a few weeks.. Will the site survive such a hit?

Underconfidence is something you'll never be able to accuse him of  ;D

Even to the point when he wanted to do something that a clear majority of members went against(some of which I have documented here), he would do it anyway.

Despite that, they survived and do have  paypal. They actually already have gone through an account freeze and have a deal in place which is acceptable to paypal(something like a 7 day freeze on the funds plus limitations on what members can or can't do with those funds). So they have passed that hurdle.

As for the shares, he does have some reason to be confident about their success and value. Shares were trading at 2 cents after the last (and hopefully final) swap so that is where he gets the 25x growth from. Of course, the law of large numbers indicates that it won't be as easy growing the next 25x, but with revenues supporting the share price things should continue to grow in a positive direction

So, would you think that it would actually be a good opportunity to hop in right now?

Also, I'm not entirely sure I got this right.. is there advertising included in their shares just like in YGP?

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 6:26pm:

So, would you think that it would actually be a good opportunity to hop in right now? Also, I'm not entirely sure I got this right.. is there advertising included in their shares just like in YGP?

No, no perks with the shares, just revenue from the site via a weekly dividend. I think the site is safe to join. I think it has survived the initial growing pains but may have 'big site' growing pains in the future. That is a while away for now. It can't hurt to join and many of our people could benefit from what the site is offering, especially in the area of advertising.

I'm not sure about buying shares. I have mine but I've stopped buying and am looking at putting my commissions into advertising now. I do believe what he says but I'm also cautious....but it is easy to be cautious when you have a lot of shares.

If this does what he plans for it, I think this site could explode and this would definitely still be considered a ground floor moment. In that case, then owning a few of their shares could be lucrative.


Another thing too is that a lot of my referrals are active. Higher than a normal PTC. I think that is because they pay better than a normal PTC so, based on where we could get referrals(other PTCs), that could also be lucrative

How many referral levels?

Well.. please pass me (PM) your ref links for both mtv and paidverts (if you're in both).. I'd like to take a look from the inside.

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 9:26pm:

How many referral levels?

It is one but it is very generous. You make a commission on just about everything someone does

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 10:40pm:

Well.. please pass me (PM) your ref links for both mtv and paidverts (if you're in both).. I'd like to take a look from the inside.

Done. The sign up is applicable to both sites

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Jun, 2014 at 11:56pm:

Done. The sign up is applicable to both sites

Ok, I'm in.
Checked this site a bit.. the share exchanging seems interesting if it keeps on going up up over time.
I'll try to monitor it for a while and afterwards decide if I'll get some.

Haven't checked paidverts yet though..
I've been a bit kinda away from the forum the past few days as I was really busy offline but I'll be back around soon.

SolidSnake wrote on 13^th Jun, 2014 at 11:44am:

Ok, I'm in. Checked this site a bit.. the share exchanging seems interesting if it keeps on going up up over time. I'll try to monitor it for a while and afterwards decide if I'll get some. Haven't checked paidverts yet though.. I've been a bit kinda away from the forum the past few days as I was really busy offline but I'll be back around soon.

Do you intend to make a good use of the programs? If you do, then I'm next and send me your links in a PM. Thanks!

SolidSnake wrote on 13^th Jun, 2014 at 11:44am:

Ok, I'm in. Checked this site a bit.. the share exchanging seems interesting if it keeps on going up up over time. I'll try to monitor it for a while and afterwards decide if I'll get some. Haven't checked paidverts yet though.. I've been a bit kinda away from the forum the past few days as I was really busy offline but I'll be back around soon.

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Also, you might want to check out the experimental fund. It is risky but if you manage your money wisely you can make some good money

I got this idea to keep easy track of the mytrafficvalue fast track queue.. I'll post a copy here once a week is paid to see if the estimated dates of the following ones will change or not.. If things slow down it will take forever to reach the investment, so let's see :


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Fast Track Queue Week      Remaining Debt      Owed to Me      Estimated Repayment Time      Queue Jun 09 - Jun 15, 2014      $29,343.12      --      123 - 175 days      view Jun 02 - Jun 08, 2014      $23,199.04      --      102 - 146 days      view May 26 - Jun 01, 2014      $15,791.62      --      86 - 123 days      view May 19 - May 25, 2014      $21,242.08      --      75 - 107 days      view May 12 - May 18, 2014      $20,122.68      --      60 - 86 days      view May 05 - May 11, 2014      $10,360.42      --      47 - 67 days      view Apr 28 - May 04, 2014      $18,098.16      --      39 - 56 days      view Apr 21 - Apr 27, 2014      $15,602.64      --      27 - 39 days      view Apr 14 - Apr 20, 2014      $5,276.38      --      16 - 23 days      view Apr 07 - Apr 13, 2014      $8,636.12      --      13 - 18 days      view Mar 31 - Apr 06, 2014      $9,587.32372      --      7 - 10 days      view

I still feel more comfotable with their shares since it's the members that decide the price and humans have this tendency to raise them over time..  :P

Just wanted to point out one thing that I plan to join under SS thus am next in line. Will do it tomorrow, have a bit of a busy today.

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Jun, 2014 at 1:54pm:

I got this idea to keep easy track of the mytrafficvalue fast track queue.. I'll post a copy here once a week is paid to see if the estimated dates of the following ones will change or not.. If things slow down it will take forever to reach the investment, so let's see : I still feel more comfotable with their shares since it's the members that decide the price and humans have this tendency to raise them over time..  :P

That is one of the best features of the site is the transparency. They have put just about everything they do and earn in public view. BTW, I`ll try and test how those side banners work with YGP. I have a bid in for Tuesday but I could be outbid. That`s a win too since if you get outbid, you get your money back plus 1%(I think that was the number). It is an easy way to make a 1% return in a few days

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Jun, 2014 at 5:02pm:

I could be outbid. That`s a win too since if you get outbid, you get your money back plus 1%(I think that was the number). It is an easy way to make a 1% return in a few days

I was mistaken. You only get your money back now if you are outbid. It used to be you would get a 1% compensation too

Do you also get paid for clicking? Particularly in PV?

By the way, what's their cashout policy or threshold?

P.S. I'll join tomorrow, I'm a little tired today.

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Jun, 2014 at 10:14pm:

Do you also get paid for clicking? Particularly in PV?

Yes, but most of the time you get credited $0.002 per click.


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By the way, what's their cashout policy or threshold?

Quoting from their FAQ :

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What is the minimum cashout? The minimum cashout amount depends on where you're cashing your earnings out to: MyTrafficValue Earnings Balance: No minimum! Perfect Money: $1.00 EgoPay: $10.00 Solid Trust Pay: $10.00 PayPal: $1.00 * Payza: $1.00 * Western Union: $250.00 Bank Wire: $250.00 * Be wary about cashing out tiny amounts to PayPal and Payza. The fees can wipe out a significant portion of your cashout; you'd be far better off waiting until you have several dollars in your account before cashing out.

It's good that we can move money to MyTrafficValue because that one doesn't support PayPal depositing..


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P.S. I'll join tomorrow, I'm a little tired today.

Take care Dan! Everyone needs a break every now and then.. :)

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Jun, 2014 at 10:14pm:

Do you also get paid for clicking? Particularly in PV? By the way, what's their cashout policy or threshold? P.S. I'll join tomorrow, I'm a little tired today.

You can actually pay for a filter that excludes lower paying ads.

The cashouts are still in flux at this point because they are still negotiating with many of their payment processors (currently they are working on bulk payouts)

If you want to know the current events at the site check into the forums on MTV every day

I probably won't be able to help too much with how PV works because I don't work it but it is great for getting referral;s. That i know and they are quite lucrative

My MTV side test banner is running and will run for 24 hours. If  your timing is good you can usually get this for 50 cents but then you need to wait close to a month for the ad to start running. You can build a nice inventory this way though.

Here are the stats:

http://mytrafficvalue.com/campaign/auction/382.html

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Jun, 2014 at 8:21am:

My MTV side test banner is running and will run for 24 hours. If  your timing is good you can usually get this for 50 cents but then you need to wait close to a month for the ad to start running. You can build a nice inventory this way though. Here are the stats: http://mytrafficvalue.com/campaign/auction/382.html

so far about 38K hits, 29 clicks and one sign up. That was for $1 but, as I said, normally, you can get the ad for 50 cents

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Jun, 2014 at 5:59pm:

so far about 38K hits, 29 clicks and one sign up. That was for $1 but, as I said, normally, you can get the ad for 50 cents

You mean 38K views?

Ok, I'm in. Who's next? And I'll send you a PM with my link in it. Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 17^th Jun, 2014 at 6:37pm:

You mean 38K views?

Yes.and because the site is open to non members to view and peruse,  26K (of about 43K total now) are 'guest' views

....and now up to 2 sign ups today. So that is 50 cents per sign up so far at the $1 bid level for the ad. If one of those two sign ups buys one share then the ad turns a profit

FYI: Neobux will not allow paidverts ads on their site  >:(

I was going to do a test run. No deal [smiley=sad.gif]

I got my first ref through my ads page.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 23^rd Jun, 2014 at 9:44pm:

I got my first ref through my ads page.. :)

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Like I told Dan, I'm getting about 50 cents per day from 45 referrals. It is definitely above average in the PTC industry

Check this out

http://mytrafficvalue.com/monetization/paidverts.html


:o

Shares hit just under 10 cents today!  :money  [smiley=12-party.gif]

.I read on the Paidverts forum that big advertisers are getting about 80 clicks per day. So from that perspective it isn't that good.

On the plus side, I only had one ad to click today....it was for $1.82!  :o

30 seconds to earn $1.82. I'll take that (and I am only on level 6/12 in regards to the highest earning level  :))

moneymarketing wrote on 22^nd Aug, 2014 at 5:53pm:

.I read on the Paidverts forum that big advertisers are getting about 80 clicks per day. So from that perspective it isn't that good. On the plus side, I only had one ad to click today....it was for $1.82!  :o 30 seconds to earn $1.82. I'll take that (and I am only on level 6/12 in regards to the highest earning level  :))

What I am wondering is.. don't BAPs expire in 18 hours?

So if someone misses a day of clicking will all of them expire?

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Aug, 2014 at 6:35pm:

What I am wondering is.. don't BAPs expire in 18 hours? So if someone misses a day of clicking will all of them expire?

Only the equivalent BAPs for the ad that expires. So you use up say 20 BAP's when you click an ad. If you don't click the ad those same BAPs expire with the ad

Well, I purchased some advertising for ~$10 there and I now have 30000+ bonus BAPs right now..
I still receive only low value ads and don't feel very interested in clicking as well..

Mostly cause I have not purchased any filters yet, but I'll think about it as we go..
I'd like to check if the advertising generates any sales, the 3 lines typing system seems rather interesting indeed.

It's like telling the clicker..: "Repeat after me... 1 2 3.. then see what I'm talking about."
Sounds like a nice strategy.

SolidSnake wrote on 23^rd Aug, 2014 at 1:08pm:

Well, I purchased some advertising for ~$10 there and I now have 30000+ bonus BAPs right now.. I still receive only low value ads and don't feel very interested in clicking as well.. Mostly cause I have not purchased any filters yet, but I'll think about it as we go.. I'd like to check if the advertising generates any sales, the 3 lines typing system seems rather interesting indeed. It's like telling the clicker..: "Repeat after me... 1 2 3.. then see what I'm talking about." Sounds like a nice strategy.

I had some sign ups for YGP when I ran my first test ad but none when I ran one for clixsense. I guess that makes sense since it is so big. Since then I've been saving up my cash for a marketing blitz so in about two weeks I was able to accumulate over $25. That includes my 83 referrals.

The micro ads will be a problem until you get the filter. I just recycled them because there was no way I was going to click them. Once I saved up the $10 for the filter, everything was cool

The text is like having three free text ads and you can set up the person for what they are going to get. It can be useful because you can tell them the main benefits of your site

edit: he usually doesn't do a big ad on the weekend (it is all done manually) so that it probably why you didn't see much activity. I only received 9 cents worth of ads. Monday should pick up again

Some insight:

If you are going to add some banners to your PV ad campaigns, don't go for the 125 squares. Instead go for the 728 leaderboards. The simple reason for this is because on the front page, there are 5x125 banners shown every time whereas there is only one leaderboard banner. That means your small banners will be used up 5 times as quick

Here are some stats (same banner only size is different. Different ads are showing the same differences)

125 banner 500000 impressions  48 clicks or 1 in 10000 approximately
728 banner 50,000 impressions 10000 displayed 10 clicks or 1 in 1000

There is only an extra 30% difference in prices but the result is huge


edit: stats now that more data has come in

Actually things go really nice after I purchased the advertising!
I've just clicked a $0.20 ad and 2 more x $0.10 earlier during the day.

I don't click the lower ones just these high valued ones so the BAPs are truly paying off.
That's an interesting approach indeed. Advertising that pays.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 25^th Aug, 2014 at 8:44pm:

Actually things go really nice after I purchased the advertising! I've just clicked a $0.20 ad and 2 more x $0.10 earlier during the day. I don't click the lower ones just these high valued ones so the BAPs are truly paying off. That's an interesting approach indeed. Advertising that pays.. :)

Yes, it is cool. My total ad work today was to click on one $1 ad. That is how much he distributed for my level so my work was done for the day.

Some of these high total BAP guys are getting $20 ads and such.

So I'm at the point now where I'm getting free advertising at the site because it is all coming out of earnings. That ad money goes straight back into the site and into my dividends

This is nice.

Though it doesn't pay a lot, donkey mails will accept traffic from paidverts. So if you plug in your PTP page at paidverts, not only do you get $1.55 for every $1 you buy, but you will also get PTP cash at DM!  :money

That gives it just a little boost more!

CashNhits PTP is back in business, so if you're looking for PTP, that one pays more.

I got 9 more ad packs in Paidverts for a bit less than $10 for the ads page..
Now that I'm thinking of it.. it is completely free advertising with a bonus..

I'm now at level 4 with ~57000 BAPs..

As the logs say I will now be eligible to receive ads worth ~$0.60 daily.
So far I've been receiving ~$0.30 daily from the basic clicks of high valued ads.

This is getting really interesting..

SolidSnake wrote on 3^rd Sep, 2014 at 10:19pm:

I got 9 more ad packs in Paidverts for a bit less than $10 for the ads page.. Now that I'm thinking of it.. it is completely free advertising with a bonus.. I'm now at level 4 with ~57000 BAPs.. As the logs say I will now be eligible to receive ads worth ~$0.60 daily. So far I've been receiving ~$0.30 daily from the basic clicks of high valued ads. This is getting really interesting..

yes, once you 'get' the system it really does give you inspiration. It almost doesn't matter what you promote in there because it will all be free so your cost to refer at any other site has a - sign on it. It is sort of like my free shares except on an accelerated plan. It will be great when the amount of ads you can purchase will increase because if you put your banner page in there it will then increase your profits or pay you to sell

The fact that the clicks are usually concentrated in a few ads is great too

And those large banners are responsive  :)

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Sep, 2014 at 7:33am:

yes, once you 'get' the system it really does give you inspiration. It almost doesn't matter what you promote in there because it will all be free so your cost to refer at any other site has a - sign on it. It is sort of like my free shares except on an accelerated plan. It will be great when the amount of ads you can purchase will increase because if you put your banner page in there it will then increase your profits or pay you to sell The fact that the clicks are usually concentrated in a few ads is great too And those large banners are responsive  :)

Well, I haven't had good luck with banner advertising there, actually I have not received any link at all..
but ok the test subject impressions were a bit too few..

However I am very interested in PTC advertising, since I constantly need more traffic for my ads page.
So, every PTC credit I get for free really matters because otherwise I would actually have to pay for it.. :)

Great! Today I received and clicked the following ads :

1 x $0.40
1 x $0.09
3 x $0.05
1 x $0.02

Total : $0.56

There are a bunch of $0.01 ads as well, so that is exactly as planned in terms of earning! :)

And today I got another :

1 x $0.50
1 x $0.10
2 x $0.05
5 x $0.02

Total : $0.80

Things are going really cool!
I'll keep on pushing the growth a bit more.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Sep, 2014 at 6:20pm:

And today I got another : 1 x $0.50 1 x $0.10 2 x $0.05 5 x $0.02 Total : $0.80 Things are going really cool! I'll keep on pushing the growth a bit more.. :)

It should continue like that (though he slows down on the weekends)

YES! You're getting it. Now you see why I like their method. I think it's something people can get behind. Work a few minutes per day, make X $s. That should make for more active clickers once others grasp the concept

from the admin:


Quote:

http://www.mytrafficvalue.com/monetization/paidverts.html - and PaidVerts is definitely growing. We're now selling $10k-$20k worth of ads daily! And daily revenues as a whole from PV are well into $2k+ per day this month. That's going surprisingly well... And all that with 20k or so active users. Now that our hardware is up to standard; we should be able to get that up to 100k active daily users before long. And then we'll really be raking it in! ~$10k/day from PV alone... with 100k active daily users spilling over into MTV, cash games and more. Plus with that many users; we'll start attracting some serious advertisers. (And we'll install the targeted ad options they'll be interested in!) This could be good, and might not take long either.

So if I understand it correctly and using paypal to purchase an $1.00 ad, it's

$1.00 + $0.37 fee = $1.37

Thus for every $1.37 I spend, I'll receive $1.55 back, right?

Am I missing something here?

dansbanners wrote on 6^th Sep, 2014 at 10:53pm:

So if I understand it correctly and using paypal to purchase an $1.00 ad, it's $1.00 + $0.37 fee = $1.37 Thus for every $1.37 I spend, I'll receive $1.55 back, right? Am I missing something here?

The 30 cent fee is fixed plus you pay the 6.5% paypal fee. so the more you buy the better the deal. You also pay 5% commission to your upline so you should net out $1.4725


If you were to buy a $10 ad, it would cost you $10.95 and you would earn after commissions $14.725 so your net profit would be higher

Also, once you get your cash recirculating in there it gets much better because you don't have any fees to buy ads with house cash except commissions when you do your PTCs. There are some minor fees but those are nominal if you keep active and clicking

I just crossed in to the 360K member group tonight. That should be worth $1.50 to $2 per day in cash flow. Total cash spent to do that: $11. The rest was paid for by the original referral bonuses(which don't exist any more), referral's commissions and reinvesting earnings.

Over that time I've also received 3000 hits and 1.25 million banner impressions. Not bad for $11 and the cost of referring (which was all paid by other online earnings)  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Ok, I guess you're starting to convince me. Still, there are a couple of things I don't understand very well. When you buy a pack you get impressions for both sizes of banners. So we can't really choose which ones to use, since we have credits for both.

Regarding the approach strategy, let's say I do it like snake and buy $10 in advertising. Should I invest more $10 and go straight for the ad filter. Do you think the value you set for the filter should vary according to the BAP level group you belong to?

Now that I bought $1.00 worth of ad (i.e. to get an idea on how it works), what do I have to do to earn $1.55 for the $1.00 I spent on the ad? Thanks.

ruicarlov wrote on 9^th Sep, 2014 at 6:24pm:

Ok, I guess you're starting to convince me. Still, there are a couple of things I don't understand very well. When you buy a pack you get impressions for both sizes of banners. So we can't really choose which ones to use, since we have credits for both.

Yes, you can opt out of sending banners but it doesn't compensate you for doing that, so you may as well send them


Quote:

Regarding the approach strategy, let's say I do it like snake and buy $10 in advertising. Should I invest more $10 and go straight for the ad filter. Do you think the value you set for the filter should vary according to the BAP level group you belong to?

If you already know what level of ads you are going to take, then you probably want to buy the filter. If you don't you'll get a bunch of low value ads that you'll probably just recycle or let expire anyway if you don't have a lot of time. I think it comes down to whether you want to receive 1 cent ads or two cent ads. I am not a fan of clicking, so I set my filter for 1.5 cents and only get two cent ads. I do get my daily minimums so it doesn't seem to be a problem. If you like 1 cent ads, then .009 is your filter point unless you want lower value ones also

Now that I think of it, I suggest going without the ad filter for at least the first couple days. It won't cost you much in lost time/lost BAP if you get the low value ads and then you'll get a feel for how everything works

dansbanners wrote on 9^th Sep, 2014 at 7:19pm:

Now that I bought $1.00 worth of ad (i.e. to get an idea on how it works), what do I have to do to earn $1.55 for the $1.00 I spent on the ad? Thanks.

You'll start receiving your first ads in the new day. Just click on them. You can copy and paste the first two captchas but the third one you need to type

moneymarketing wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 7:36am:

I do get my daily minimums so it doesn't seem to be a problem. If you like 1 cent ads, then .009 is your filter point unless you want lower value ones also

Wait. Daily minimums? What's that about. I didn't see it in their FAQ.

In any case, since it seems there's already a dowline formed, the one on the bottom can PM their ref link.

ruicarlov wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 12:36pm:

In any case, since it seems there's already a dowline formed, the one on the bottom can PM their ref link.

When did you join? And who did you join under?

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 4:18pm:

When did you join? And who did you join under?

I didn't. That's why I asked who's under who at this point.

Yay!! Today I got my first ad of this type :

http://i.imgur.com/Opg6R37.png

I have ~57000 BAPs so I'm not sure I was eligible to receive ads of that pay rate..  :cool1
If that keeps on happening I'll be able to grow my BAPs rather quickly there!  :money

Btw, it's good that we also receive commissions from our downline's purchases and clicks!
I've just received +$0.10 from Dan's $1 purchase.. There's really a lot of earning potential here!


dansbanners wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 4:18pm:

When did you join? And who did you join under?

Rui means that you should send him your referral link through a PM, to let him join under you.
He's just decided to join so I guess he wishes to become your downline.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

ruicarlov wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 12:36pm:

Wait. Daily minimums? What's that about. I didn't see it in their FAQ. In any case, since it seems there's already a dowline formed, the one on the bottom can PM their ref link.

the daily minimums based on the announced payouts. Not actual minimum payments but if they declare x payout for the day then I get that even if my level only gets 2 cents or higher

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 5:05pm:

Yay!! Today I got my first ad of this type : http://i.imgur.com/Opg6R37.png I have ~57000 BAPs so I'm not sure I was eligible to receive ads of that pay rate..  :cool1 If that keeps on happening I'll be able to grow my BAPs rather quickly there!  :money Btw, it's good that we also receive commissions from our downline's purchases and clicks! I've just received +$0.10 from Dan's $1 purchase.. There's really a lot of earning potential here!

Yes, now you see why I'm so pumped. And it is not just on ad purchases, you earn a commission on just about everything (or probably everything) but the payouts vary.

whops, I saw a comma in snake's post that wasn't actually there and it changed the whole meaning of the post.  :P

I need another pair of glasses...

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 5:05pm:

Yay!! Today I got my first ad of this type : http://i.imgur.com/Opg6R37.png I have ~57000 BAPs so I'm not sure I was eligible to receive ads of that pay rate..  :cool1 If that keeps on happening I'll be able to grow my BAPs rather quickly there!  :money Btw, it's good that we also receive commissions from our downline's purchases and clicks! I've just received +$0.10 from Dan's $1 purchase.. There's really a lot of earning potential here! Rui means that you should send him your referral link through a PM, to let him join under you. He's just decided to join so I guess he wishes to become your downline.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

No problem. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I will send him the link. Should I send him the MTV or PV link? :)

Thanks!

ruicarlov wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 6:44pm:

whops, I saw a comma in snake's post that wasn't actually there and it changed the whole meaning of the post.  :P I need another pair of glasses...

Just use your Super Vision man.. :P

Well.. I'm not sure I get this..

You saw a comma that did not exist?
Or it existed but you didn't see it there?

[smiley=lolx.gif]

Is it worth it to click on the BAP ads? Exactly what could I do with the BAP points, etc? Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 10^th Sep, 2014 at 11:46pm:

Is it worth it to click on the BAP ads? Exactly what could I do with the BAP points, etc? Thanks!

The BAP points can also be converted to cash but more importantly, they keep your account active, so you need to click on one of those every once in a while to make you eligible for the paid ads

Edit: you can only have so many active days stored up, I forget what the number is but I like to keep it around 21 or so. You can find how many days you have active on the member home page(link across the top).  Check under the 'maximise your earnings' section

Well, after doing some lookup on it, I've collected some of the important points about them :


Quote:

Each bonus ad point will deliver $0.0005 worth of 'bonus ads' to your account asap! As each ad is delivered to your account, your BAP balance is reduced by the corresponding amount.

So each 25 BAP ad grants you ads worth $0.0125. If you click 8 x 25 BAPs you will receive up to 200 x $0.0005 = $0.10 worth of ads. However this is not too cool because the available ads might be down to $0.0005/per click. You can filter low paying ads by purchasing a filter but I wouldn't recommend that because it only lasts for a week.. For now I would avoid them.


Quote:

Paid ads require and consume Bonus Ad Points (BAP) as they're issued to you. You'll receive paid ads daily until your all your BAP is consumed. View activation ads below, or Buy Ads to increase your BAP. The more you accumulate, the higher value ads you'll attract.

So watching those BAP ads will add BAPs to your account.


Quote:

You'll receive 16* 25 BAP ads each server day until you have viewed 100 BAP ads in total. And from then on you'll receive 8x 25 BAP ads each server day.

So in the beginning you can get : 16 x 25 = 400 BAPs per day (first week) and later on 8 x 25 = 200 BAPs daily (for free just by clicking).
Note that by clicking 16 x 25BAP ads for a whole week you will pass the 100 clicks so afterwards you will only receive 8 x 25 BAP ads.


Quote:

-Only active accounts receive paid ads. - Each BAP ad you view, extends your account activation period by 7days. -> Up to 21 days - Inactive accounts freeze, until such time that you re-active them with an activation ad.

So this is why we all need to click on BAP ads every once in a while.


Quote:

You can also earn Bonus Ad Points by purchasing advertising with us. Every $1.00 of Bulk Advertising you purchase will add 3100 BAP to your account.

You can see the difference here, it gets much easier to collect BAPs through ad purchases.
It takes 16 days of clicking 8 x 25 BAP ads to reach 3200 BAPs normally.


Quote:

BAP Groups / Levels

Members are grouped based on their BAPs and you can see the ranks in the Bonus Ad Points Overview section of this page.

So to sum things up...
The amount of BAPs you currently have on your account defines how much worth the ads you daily receive will be.

Etc if you have 50000 BAPs you will receive ads worth up to 50000 x $0.0005 = $25 until they expire (this is not the daily amount - but I receive $0.70~$1 at this state).
Since $1 of advertising gives us 3100 BAPs that means that we will eventually get ads worth up to : 3100 x $0.0005 = $1.55.
That is a great return, though it requires active advertisers, but any member purchasing this to earn is also an active advertiser so things are circulating.

SolidSnake wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 12:59pm:

Well, after doing some lookup on it, I've collected some of the important points about them : So each 25 BAP ad grants you ads worth $0.0125. If you click 8 x 25 BAPs you will receive up to 200 x $0.0005 = $0.10 worth of ads. However this is not too cool because the available ads might be down to $0.0005/per click. You can filter low paying ads by purchasing a filter but I wouldn't recommend that because it only lasts for a week.. For now I would avoid them.

A week? But I read it was a one-time payment, and that you only needed to pay more if you wanted to change the value in the filter. Did that change?

Well, quoting the description from the upgrade page :


Quote:

$2.99 Upgrade : These will deliver all 1% ads ranging in values from $0.01 to $0.49 each. Eg. You will get all the 1% ads from all ad purchases of $1-$49 made over the next 7days. (Shared between any other upgraded users)

Quote:

$19.99 Upgrade These will deliver all 1% ads ranging in values from $0.50 and up! Eg. You will get all the 1% ads from all ad purchases of $50+ made over the next 7days. (Shared between any other upgraded users)

I guess that's how it is and it is why I wouldn't recommend it..
Not sure if they've changed it and forgot to update the description..

I think upgrades and ad filters are different things. But hey, I only watched a video tutorial so I can't be sure.

ruicarlov wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 5:40pm:

I think upgrades and ad filters are different things. But hey, I only watched a video tutorial so I can't be sure.

I may as well start from the top. Rui is right. You only need to buy the filter once. If you want to change - say from 2 cents to 5 cents - then you need to buy another filter level. This is why I said maybe try it for a few days filter free to see what level you might like based on how many ads you get

Upgrades are totally different and are a bit of a gimmick if you ask me. I don't have them and I am still earning my BAP points ads so I don't see the benefit. If you are a rabid clicker, you might want to do that

Oh, you're right! I thought it was the same.. :)

Btw, something annoying about Paidverts is that they allow some "not-too-offensive" adult ads..
I've contacted them twice through a support ticket and all they replied to me is "Noted! Thanks!"..

But today I noticed they are still there, so they most likely don't care much about them..
I checked their forum to see if there is a discussion on it and this came up..

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/questions/porn_campaign_ads_again/1.html

So, I put one last reply there and will let go about it..
It's sad to see them not being professional enough there..

Ok, so should I send Rui my MTV or PV link? Thanks.

SolidSnake wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 6:28pm:

Oh, you're right! I thought it was the same.. :) Btw, something annoying about Paidverts is that they allow some "not-too-offensive" adult ads.. I've contacted them twice through a support ticket and all they replied to me is "Noted! Thanks!".. But today I noticed they are still there, so they most likely don't care much about them.. I checked their forum to see if there is a discussion on it and this came up.. https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/questions/porn_campaign_ads_again/1.html So, I put one last reply there and will let go about it.. It's sad to see them not being professional enough there..

You probably shouldn't waste your typing keys on that. They let a lot of stuff slip. Since we submit our own ads, not much gets blocked. They are very liberal that way.

That is one weak point.

The other that concerns me is the gambling. That could be an issue down the road. The other day we had a couple guys lose something like $1,700 worth of BAPs because they have the BAP games. Sure, it was his fault, he shouldn't have risked it, but it is still there and that may get the attention of some before too long if they let people be stupid. So a caution that way

Otherwise, the site is being run quite well. They've got their programming sorted out and they have been through their DDOS phase so we should be hitting the growth spurt phase of the company

dansbanners wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 10:00pm:

Ok, so should I send Rui my MTV or PV link? Thanks.

He hasn't joined yet?  :o

Send him the PV one. When he signs up his info will work on both sites.

Don't forget to put your proper birthday in Rui, it is for payment processing. If you don't want that at least put one in you can remember  ;D

It's still not clear to me on how I earn $1.55 for every $1.00 I spend on an ad? :-?

Are they talking about when your balance actually reaches $1.55 or what?

Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 11:18pm:

It's still not clear to me on how I earn $1.55 for every $1.00 I spend on an ad? :-? Are they talking about when your balance actually reaches $1.55 or what? Thanks!

It goes down to this :

As long as you have BAPs you will receive ads of variable price.
When they get depleted you will stop receiving paid ads.

1 BAP equals to $0.0005 in paid ads.
3100 BAPs equal to 3100 x $0.0005 = $1.55

By purchasing $1 ad pack you get 3100 BAPs which means that until they run out you will be able to click on ads that will sum up to a total of $1.55

So, once you accumulate that amount your BAPs will hit 0 and you will no longer receive paid ads.

Also there is this fact as well, having more BAPs kinda puts you in a priority list and you usually receive higher valued ads along with small ones which is nice and really speeds up the process.. Plus there are no fees when reinvesting our earnings.

Now, how that system is sustainable is another story. I guess it's just that if no investors purchase ads
we won't receive any ads down the road. So, yep.. that's actually sustainable.

There are no "fixed" ads here which is good if you ask me. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 12^th Sep, 2014 at 12:23am:

Now, how that system is sustainable is another story. I guess it's just that if no investors purchase ads we won't receive any ads down the road. So, yep.. that's actually sustainable.

People can use their BAPs to play the casino games and many do. Also, when you buy extra banner impressions no BAPs are assigned so that is another source of revenue. Paidvert buys MTV shares with its profits and has a mandate to sell them only when they make a profit on those shares, so they take liquidity off the share market and that should (theoretically) cause the share price to rise over the long term so that is another place that PV makes profits. Those profits are then turned back into ad revenues for us

Rui has joined in our downline! 8-)

dansbanners wrote on 12^th Sep, 2014 at 7:46pm:

Rui has joined in our downline! 8-)

Great job! Our super hero is always here to back us up! :)

MM I think it might be a good time to also add our list in the downline builder, just in case you know.. :)
Since you're the first inside man there, I think you would be at the best position to make a small and accurate review..
(You know I usually type until I run out of characters...  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

SolidSnake wrote on 13^th Sep, 2014 at 1:07am:

Great job! Our super hero is always here to back us up! :) MM I think it might be a good time to also add our list in the downline builder, just in case you know.. :) Since you're the first inside man there, I think you would be at the best position to make a small and accurate review.. (You know I usually type until I run out of characters...  [smiley=lolx.gif] )

MM,

If you do, you may want to also point out that so far the downline reads as the following:

moneymarketing <= solidsnake <= dansbanners <= ruicarlov

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Sep, 2014 at 6:04pm:

I may as well start from the top. Rui is right. You only need to buy the filter once. If you want to change - say from 2 cents to 5 cents - then you need to buy another filter level. This is why I said maybe try it for a few days filter free to see what level you might like based on how many ads you get

Didn't expect that the filter could only be bought with account balance. Which means that whether I like it or not, I'll have to deal with the low-value ads until the account balance reaches $10.

ruicarlov wrote on 13^th Sep, 2014 at 11:40pm:

Didn't expect that the filter could only be bought with account balance. Which means that whether I like it or not, I'll have to deal with the low-value ads until the account balance reaches $10.

Well, it's not that hard really.. But I'm not sure you really need that..
As the BAPs number grows you get higher valued ads nonetheless and you can simply ignore the lower ones..

Basically some investment (like $10) can really speed up everything.
That's up to you though.. :P

Actually, I'm already on the 60k BAP level. Yesterday got 5 $0.01 ads and 15 small ones.
Today I got a $.20

ruicarlov wrote on 14^th Sep, 2014 at 12:08pm:

Actually, I'm already on the 60k BAP level. Yesterday got 5 $0.01 ads and 15 small ones. Today I got a $.20

It will pick up on Monday. The ads slow down on the weekend and then they bulk them up again on Monday. That is when you'll see what your earnings level is like. Congrats on racing to 60K.

My bad on the filter thing. I bought mine with account funds so I didn't realize that was the only way to do that.

I agree with SS, I just let those little ones slide until I had enough to buy the filter. It won't cost you too many BAPs to do that so it is your call.

Write a review SS? If I must but I'm terrible at that sort of thing. Somehow my automatic repulser ray comes on the minute I'm in ad copy mode. Maybe we should put a boilerpate form together where people can fill out the necessary points for an opportunity.

after one month

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/my_first_month/1.html

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Sep, 2014 at 3:43pm:

after one month https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/my_first_month/1.html

That shows what's possible.

Another point regarding the filter is this :


Quote:

Understand that if you increase the minimum value of paid ads that you're willing to receive, your account will receive less ads. As any ads of lesser value than your filter will simply not be ellegible to be issued to your account. They will go to another user instead, and you will miss out.

The low valued ads that get blocked from reaching your account do not get replaced by higher valued ones.. You simply don't get them.
So, why bother paying for a filter instead of simply ignoring them and click only the ones you actually want to click?

SolidSnake wrote on 15^th Sep, 2014 at 5:55pm:

Another point regarding the filter is this : The low valued ads that get blocked from reaching your account do not get replaced by higher valued ones.. You simply don't get them. So, why bother paying for a filter instead of simply ignoring them and click only the ones you actually want to click?

Yes, that is why it is a fine line you have to walk. As you get into the higher tiers you may not want to bother with the low value ads. If you have the filter it will block those ads and you won't lose BAPs. So over the long term(the filter is lifetime) the filter will pay for itself. For me, I am blocking 1 cent ads too so it will pay for itself after 1000 ads which is not a lot. I don't get as many ads but I'm in no rush to make my money back and my referrals more than make up the difference

Just now I had 36 $0.0005 ads. All into the recycle bin. Which means 36 BAP wasted. It's actually not too much, considering that 2 activation ads give me 50 BAP.

ruicarlov wrote on 15^th Sep, 2014 at 11:28pm:

Just now I had 36 $0.0005 ads. All into the recycle bin. Which means 36 BAP wasted. It's actually not too much, considering that 2 activation ads give me 50 BAP.

If we simply let them expire do we also lose on BAPs?
I have not noticed it, so it might be a small drop..

[edit]Btw guys, I would like to hear your opinions on this.. (As it might have gone un-noticed)[/edit]

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 12:53am:

If we simply let them expire do we also lose on BAPs? I have not noticed it, so it might be a small drop.. [edit]Btw guys, I would like to hear your opinions on this.. (As it might have gone un-noticed)[/edit]

Yes, if you recycle or let them expire you lose the BAPs....and now you see why I recommend the filter. It just gets to you to see those BAPs get tossed. I think it is more psychological than anything but I didn't like it anyway

So it makes some sense to watch a bunch of activation ads daily to counterbalance that loss.. (or get that filter.. :) )

But if you think about it, that filter costs 20000 BAP. So if we lose on average 40 BAPs per day in small ads (still need to see how much I lose everyday), it will take 500 days to make the cost worth it.

It's a rather long time, considering we're talking about the PTC business here.

ruicarlov wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 11:17am:

But if you think about it, that filter costs 20000 BAP. So if we lose on average 40 BAPs per day in small ads (still need to see how much I lose everyday), it will take 500 days to make the cost worth it. It's a rather long time, considering we're talking about the PTC business here.

And why not spend those 10 bucks on ads that will give you additional 27900 BAPs that will grant you $15+ much faster than that (+advertising)?

Yep, unless we start to get flooded with a lot of small valued ads, I think the filter brings no benefit, as compounding is slower if we waste $10 on a filter.
On the other hand, for those that already have a filter, that $0.05 upgrade to get recycled ads might work well, since it gives you +2000BAP worth of recycled ads. If you have a filter on, you won't have to worry about getting small ads.

Here's an example to get a better view of the whole matter..

I consider very low valued ads the once that are below $0.01 and I don't click them.
Today I got :

2 x $0.0005 , 10 x $0.001 and 5 x $0.002 ads.

The summary of their values is : $0.021
This equals to : $0.021 / $0.0005 = 42 BAPs

So, if we add up some more of them let's say it gets to 50 BAPs lost per day.
It means that I will lose 30 x 50 BAPs = 1500 BAPs per month or 1500 x $0.0005 = $0,75 per month.

The available BAP ads to click daily are 8 for my account, so clicking all of them will grant me 8 x 25 = 200 BAPs.
So to counterbalance the loss completely it means that I have to click either 2 BAP ads daily or all BAP ads for 8 days.

I think that's doable enough for me and it is quite a small loss even if I don't do that every day..
Now I'm not sure how many more they will become as I climb the levels.. maybe MM could help us there.

Ok, of course the filter would help if one's time is really really limited and can't click more than 2-4 ads per day..
Remember it's also not a forced view site, so if you're not very interested in what is advertised you can do that while browsing as well.

ruicarlov wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 11:17am:

But if you think about it, that filter costs 20000 BAP. So if we lose on average 40 BAPs per day in small ads (still need to see how much I lose everyday), it will take 500 days to make the cost worth it. It's a rather long time, considering we're talking about the PTC business here.

Yep, you have a point. It could be considered another gimmick. Now that I have it, I'm stuck with it

ruicarlov wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 4:35pm:

Yep, unless we start to get flooded with a lot of small valued ads, I think the filter brings no benefit, as compounding is slower if we waste $10 on a filter. On the other hand, for those that already have a filter, that $0.05 upgrade to get recycled ads might work well, since it gives you +2000BAP worth of recycled ads. If you have a filter on, you won't have to worry about getting small ads.

;D

Leave me alone Rui with your......thinky stuff  :o

SS tell him to stop using his mega brain powers on me!  >:(

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 6:37pm:

Here's an example to get a better view of the whole matter.. I consider very low valued ads the once that are below $0.01 and I don't click them. Today I got : 2 x $0.0005 , 10 x $0.001 and 5 x $0.002 ads. The summary of their values is : $0.021 This equals to : $0.021 / $0.0005 = 42 BAPs So, if we add up some more of them let's say it gets to 50 BAPs lost per day. It means that I will lose 30 x 50 BAPs = 1500 BAPs per month or 1500 x $0.0005 = $0,75 per month. The available BAP ads to click daily are 8 for my account, so clicking all of them will grant me 8 x 25 = 200 BAPs. So to counterbalance the loss completely it means that I have to click either 2 BAP ads daily or all BAP ads for 8 days. I think that's doable enough for me and it is quite a small loss even if I don't do that every day.. Now I'm not sure how many more they will become as I climb the levels.. maybe MM could help us there. Ok, of course the filter would help if one's time is really really limited and can't click more than 2-4 ads per day.. Remember it's also not a forced view site, so if you're not very interested in what is advertised you can do that while browsing as well.

I've read some stories in the forum of lots of ads showing up. I think there were about 20 or so of all ads when I started clicking. With the filter it is about 8 per day at 2 cents or higher so about ten or twelve low value ads were showing up.

I also started clicking in the 180k - 360k level because I hadn't realized I had a bunch of milestone bonuses (not active any more) and I didn't understand how the BAP system worked at that time. I jumped on the filter pretty quick but I probably should have done the math first

even still, with SS's calcualtions, it would only take a year to pay for the filter

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 9:40pm:

;D Leave me alone Rui with your......thinky stuff  :o SS tell him to stop using his mega brain powers on me!  >:(

Good job, Rui! It worked! ;) [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif]


Now, something else that has been bothering me is this :

What defines if our own ads will be displayed as low valued or high valued ones..?
There is no option to pay more or less than $1 per 50 clicks so, which mechanism decides that?  :-?

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 10:40pm:

Good job, Rui! It worked! ;) [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=lolx.gif] Now, something else that has been bothering me is this : What defines if our own ads will be displayed as low valued or high valued ones..? There is no option to pay more or less than $1 per 50 clicks so, which mechanism decides that?  :-?

Not at this point but they are working on a targeting system. Targeting was one of the reasons MTV was made. We were supposed to be able to advertise to people based on their 'traffic value'. So that is why it is called my traffic value and that is the reason behind everyone's earnings being displayed in the forums

you can sort of see how it was originally supposed to work here:

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/campaign/auction/504.html

You can see how the system details the worth of those that clicked on your ads and the total value of those members

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Sep, 2014 at 9:40pm:

;D Leave me alone Rui with your......thinky stuff  :o SS tell him to stop using his mega brain powers on me!  >:(

That's why it's good to have him on the team! :)

Let me flex my brain muscles a bit more.

The upgrade options (2.99 and 29.99) are actually better than they look at first glance. While the 1-week duration might make them seem worthless, in reality they last as long as it needs fot you to get the value of the upgrade back. If at the end of each week you still haven't received 2.99 of those special issued ads (for the small upgrade), you get that upgrade for another week.
Now imagine that you got 2.80 worth of those ads in the first week. Since it's under 2.99, you get upgraded for another week, which means you might make more than those 2.99 you paid. The worst case scenario is if you make exactly 2.99 after day 7.
And since those ads are always above $0.01, they're rather interesting.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Sep, 2014 at 7:07pm:

Let me flex my brain muscles a bit more. The upgrade options (2.99 and 29.99) are actually better than they look at first glance. While the 1-week duration might make them seem worthless, in reality they last as long as it needs fot you to get the value of the upgrade back. If at the end of each week you still haven't received 2.99 of those special issued ads (for the small upgrade), you get that upgrade for another week. Now imagine that you got 2.80 worth of those ads in the first week. Since it's under 2.99, you get upgraded for another week, which means you might make more than those 2.99 you paid. The worst case scenario is if you make exactly 2.99 after day 7. And since those ads are always above $0.01, they're rather interesting.

That.. thing.. you're doing....
Hmm.... it's working...  :o

Yes, that's right....

Listen to what I' saying...  very carefully....

Relax, and heed to me

http://i1.wp.com/blazepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/104.gif

ruicarlov wrote on 18^th Sep, 2014 at 11:32am:

Yes, that's right.... Listen to what I' saying...  very carefully.... Relax, and heed to me

Yes.... I have to reach the end of the tunnel... I'm gonna... oh wait.. somewhere around here... was my... stun grenade....

{BOOM}

Wow.. ok, I'm back.. Psycho Mantis tried that trick on Meryl so I know how to evade it.. plus I could always use a second controller.. (or keyboard maybe.. :P )

Now, thinking of the upgrades again.. I've got another doubt..
Since at the worst case scenario you will only get back what you invested on the upgrade, that's ok.. zero loss and all..

However, even if it works ok, IMO so far the BAPs deliver high valued ads well (etc. today I clicked another $1 ad..)
So, it's fast enough to just rely on your level group level.. and at any case you will get at least 155% ROI.

Getting ~$1 daily means that, if for example you pay that $3 on ads you will get that $4.65 in ~5 days and you can always reinvest it to make it grow even faster.. so, how do we know that the $3 upgrade will grant us more than that in such a short time?
The same goes for that $20 upgrade..

Looking in the daily reports from the admin might give us the answer but.. of course you could also try it and let us know..  ::)

Besides.. you're so wanting to be the first to check it out.. [smiley=z05-yes.gif]
Don't you hear that little voice in your head asking you to .. "Do it! Do it! Do it!"..

No seriously.. Do it! Do it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra70O9nps6E#t=60

[smiley=lolx.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Sep, 2014 at 3:16pm:

However, even if it works ok, IMO so far the BAPs deliver high valued ads well (etc. today I clicked another $1 ad..) So, it's fast enough to just rely on your level group level.. and at any case you will get at least 155% ROI.

Yes I got that ad too. My first $1 ad.  :mon_eyes
The thing with the upgrade is that you receive all you BAP level group ads + the special issued ads. So it's even more cash per day.


SolidSnake wrote on 18^th Sep, 2014 at 3:16pm:

Getting ~$1 daily means that, if for example you pay that $3 on ads you will get that $4.65 in ~5 days and you can always reinvest it to make it grow even faster.. so, how do we know that the $3 upgrade will grant us more than that in such a short time? The same goes for that $20 upgrade..

You're missing something here. BAP levels cover a wide range of BAP points. So someone with 50k and 80k theoretically receive the same amount of $ in ads per day.
This means that someone with 50k, that earns $1 per day, will not benefit from investing a week's earnings immediately, because that only brings his BAP to 70k. This means that he still receives the same amount of daily cash as if he'd never invested those $7.
However, by investing that money in an upgrade, he will start earning more money each day since he will be receiving more ads. This means that cash turnover rate is quicker. After the upgrade expires, the person who invested will have more cash than the one who didn't buy the upgrade.

There is of course an exception to this. If you're near the limit of the BAP level group, you benefit from buying Ads immediately, since it will put you in a higher group -> more earnings per day. 

Naturally, I'm only speaking about theory. I have yet to see how long it lasts and much does an upgrade bring.
I'm not sure if you're able to tell apart the regular daily ads from the special issued ads.
If someone else is in BAP group 4, it would be interesting to compare how many ads +$0.01 we get between regular and upgraded member.

[EDIT] What I said up there was all fine and dandy, but I neglected a very important factor. The special issued ads also consume BAP. Which means if we earn exactly 2.99 we're the same in terms of money, but we're worse off in terms of BAP. If we want to reach the same level of BAP at the end, we must earn 8.5$ of extra ads during that upgrade. Since we consume more BAP with the upgrade, only by earning 8.5 and spending it on ads can we reach the same BAP of people who didn't buy the upgrade and used all the earnings to buy ads. However, breaking even is already quite good for in terms of advertising, since upgraded members buy more ads than normal members, so they get more impressions and visits to their sites.

But this all depends on the amount of sales by the site. If sales during the upgrade are low, we're kinda screwed. So it's a risky bet. [/EDIT]

I clicked an ad for $3.50 today  :o

BEST CLICK EVER!  :money ;D

moneymarketing wrote on 18^th Sep, 2014 at 7:27pm:

I clicked an ad for $3.50 today  :o BEST CLICK EVER!  :money ;D

Great! I like that side of moneymarketing! Focusing on the positives! Focusing on the growth! ;)

I'm in the process of selling 800+ shares which should net me out over $110 at the current rate. If I cashed out I would have made back everything I ever invested in the site over two years ($90) plus a profit. I'm not going to do that though. I'll be investing that in advertising in order to increase my BAPs. That will take me close to 700K and the next threshold is 720K.

Most of these shares I paid under .05 over the last couple years and I'm selling them for .138 so that is a nice roi in and of itself. I'm still sitting on 11K shares after this (except for the original $79 worth, all were bought with dividends or referral commissions) so had I cashed out that money I'd be sitting on 11K shares, 370K BAP and a net profit of 20+ dollars

....and the site is just beginning to rock!   :money

I got a $3.64 valued ad today..  :money  :cool1
And purchased ads for $6, because my BAPs somewhat dropped and I had to get back to level 4.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2014 at 2:13am:

I got a $3.64 valued ad today..  :money  :cool1

Great! 8-) 

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2014 at 2:13am:

I got a $3.64 valued ad today..  :money  :cool1 And purchased ads for $6, because my BAPs somewhat dropped and I had to get back to level 4.. :)

He was throwing out random high value ads to all levels so that is kinda cool that you got one. Apparently this will be a regular thing

share sale complete and thanks to earnings and commissions today crossed into group 8 with my latest ad purchase

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2014 at 2:13am:

I got a $3.64 valued ad today..  :money  :cool1 And purchased ads for $6, because my BAPs somewhat dropped and I had to get back to level 4.. :)

$3.64 at level 4?

Alright Snake, the gig is up. You did something back there didn't you? I thought I heard a chaff grenade go off sometime after I saw this (nice disguise, but it didn't fool me):
http://i.imgur.com/N2LL3Xj.png

ruicarlov wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2014 at 4:40pm:

$3.64 at level 4? Alright Snake, the gig is up. You did something back there didn't you? I thought I heard a chaff grenade go off sometime after I saw this (nice disguise, but it didn't fool me):

So...... I guess you now know I also use the "Gizmo" username under a proxy, huh?  :-?
That means I'll have to change that as well..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Btw, I've just got a new referral email notification and invited him to join us around here. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 22^nd Sep, 2014 at 7:38pm:

Btw, I've just got a new referral email notification and invited him to join us around here. :)

Glad to hear of your new referral! 8-)

I currently do not have any BAP points. What do you suggest I do at this point? Thanks.

dansbanners wrote on 23^rd Sep, 2014 at 4:19pm:

I currently do not have any BAP points. What do you suggest I do at this point? Thanks.

You can click activation ads and/or buy advertising there.
My sugestion goes to buying ads, since it's the quickest way of going above 1600 BAPs a start receiving daily ads. After that you can either cashout around $0.55 for every $1.00 you buy in ads again (to keep BAP level) until you reach ROI or you can compound it to higher BAP levels and only start ROI from there.

ruicarlov wrote on 23^rd Sep, 2014 at 5:04pm:

You can click activation ads and/or buy advertising there. My sugestion goes to buying ads, since it's the quickest way of going above 1600 BAPs a start receiving daily ads. After that you can either cashout around $0.55 for every $1.00 you buy in ads again (to keep BAP level) until you reach ROI or you can compound it to higher BAP levels and only start ROI from there.

Hmm, I currently have $2.92 in my balance.

$2.24 I know is from rui's clicks and purchase

So, that probably mean I earned $0.68 from my own clicks?

$0.55? I thought it was $1.55 for every $1.00 you purchased?

At low investments it's a bit more than that. First of all, you have the payment processor fees when you inject outside money. And then you have the daily 100 BAP fee and the micro ads not clicked if you lacked the patience to view them. So one should click enough Activation ads to offset those losses. As you BAP number increases, this fixed cost becomes much less relevant.

I only said $0.55 since that's the theoretical profit you get for every dollar you invest. Since it's necessary to keep BAP level in order to qualify for daily ad delivery, once you are in a certain BAP group, you should take care not to do down to the previous group and only cashout what you can without compromising this goal.

ruicarlov wrote on 23^rd Sep, 2014 at 6:53pm:

At low investments it's a bit more than that. First of all, you have the payment processor fees when you inject outside money. And then you have the daily 100 BAP fee and the micro ads not clicked if you lacked the patience to view them. So one should click enough Activation ads to offset those losses. As you BAP number increases, this fixed cost becomes much less relevant. I only said $0.55 since that's the theoretical profit you get for every dollar you invest. Since it's necessary to keep BAP level in order to qualify for daily ad delivery, once you are in a certain BAP group, you should take care not to do down to the previous group and only cashout what you can without compromising this goal.

So is it $.68 after all your clicks are done? Yes, there was some losses due to taxes and processor fees. The good part now though is that you can reinvest $2 right away in ads and that will gain you 6200 BAP. You are still subject to the daily BAP tax but no more processor fees if you reinvest your earnings

Also there's the loss from unclicked ads that expired..
To calculate that and counterbalance it with BAP ads you simply divide the summary of all the available paid ads by $0.0005.

Etc. if there are 3 x $0.01 ads and 4 x $0.0005
The total amount that can be earned through paid ads is $0.03 + $0.002 = $0.032
So the daily loss in case these ads expire without being clicked will be $0.032 / $0.0005 = 64 BAPs

So if you click 3 x 25 BAP ads you will prevent that loss..
My strategy now is to click all ads from $0.01+ and let the rest expire. That's usually a very low amount of BAPs lost that can usually be counterbalanced with just 1 x 25 BAP ad. Either way I try to never end up in a loss due to expired ads.

Another bonus:

When you buy an ad, over the first ten days you get 1% of the value of the ad back in clicks each day.

So, for example, if you were to buy a $100 ad, for the next ten days you would get a $1 ad each day

Wow, I finally got my first referral at Cash In On Banners in a long time after advertising at Paidverts

I bought 100K 125 banners for $1 along with my ciob ad and I think that did the trick

moneymarketing wrote on 24^th Sep, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Wow, I finally got my first referral at Cash In On Banners in a long time after advertising at Paidverts I bought 100K 125 banners for $1 along with my ciob ad and I think that did the trick

Good for you! 8-)

YES!

30 seconds = $5!!!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 26^th Sep, 2014 at 1:26am:

YES! 30 seconds = $5!!!  [smiley=12-party.gif]

Total tally today: $7.07625! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Nice one! Yesterday I also got ~$1.20 with my clicks.

Btw, has anyone tried the upgrades yet? :)

:censored that expiration time! I was close to 18 hours away from paidverts, but I managed to miss $0.38 worth of ads. When I logged in today, I had the notice that all those ads had been recycled.

Did they just throw those ads at me as soon as I logged off?  >:( Lousy timing.

SolidSnake wrote on 26^th Sep, 2014 at 11:46am:

Nice one! Yesterday I also got ~$1.20 with my clicks. Btw, has anyone tried the upgrades yet? :)

Not me yet

Wow, I hadn't noticed how much info we get from our campaings. We know exactly who clicked, the value of the ad when it was issued to each person, who is that person's upline and how much did he earn. Plus, we can even click on that user and see a good deal of his stats, including what campaigns he made and other details.

ruicarlov wrote on 27^th Sep, 2014 at 3:01pm:

Wow, I hadn't noticed how much info we get from our campaings. We know exactly who clicked, the value of the ad when it was issued to each person, who is that person's upline and how much did he earn. Plus, we can even click on that user and see a good deal of his stats, including what campaigns he made and other details.

Yes.. I forgot to mention that.. :-)  I noticed it a few weeks ago.
We all have our public profile there with our activity details..

Yes, the info is a bit over the top. I understand why they do it. It is to give investors confidence that this isn't some sort of sham. Plus it allows them to prove the 'traffic value' of the individual. I'm glad they don't post our actual names because then it could become a bit of a security problem for people

moneymarketing wrote on 27^th Sep, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Yes, the info is a bit over the top. I understand why they do it. It is to give investors confidence that this isn't some sort of sham. Plus it allows them to prove the 'traffic value' of the individual. I'm glad they don't post our actual names because then it could become a bit of a security problem for people

True...
Now this question popped up in my mind.. what would we see if the same thing happened in neobux..  ::)

Anyways, today I didn't get any relatively high valued ads like the previous days..
I think the best was like $0.30 or sth.. and now there are a lot of $0.001 ones..

Now I've thought of this plan that makes more sense when this happens..:
Since if I miss a $0.001 ad would remove only 2 BAPs and if I click it I will only get that amount..,
why do so and not click a 25 BAP ad instead? This way I get more for the same clicking activity,
plus I extend my account's active state..

Today I had 51 low-value ads  :-?

Wow, if this keeps increasing, I might consider the filter after all.

SolidSnake wrote on 27^th Sep, 2014 at 9:06pm:

True... Now this question popped up in my mind.. what would we see if the same thing happened in neobux..  ::) Anyways, today I didn't get any relatively high valued ads like the previous days.. I think the best was like $0.30 or sth.. and now there are a lot of $0.001 ones.. Now I've thought of this plan that makes more sense when this happens..: Since if I miss a $0.001 ad would remove only 2 BAPs and if I click it I will only get that amount.., why do so and not click a 25 BAP ad instead? This way I get more for the same clicking activity, plus I extend my account's active state..

just remember that he takes a bit of a break on weekends so you'll probably not get many high value ads. Sometimes he breaks the pattern and gives them out anyway but weekends are usually a day off from clicking. You will get your ads based on your 1% of ad purchases per ten days but that's about it. I think he will keep to the pattern of the random Sunday's where anybody can receive an ad of any value. You were a beneficiary last Sunday SS. That is a great way to inspire the people in the lower BAP levels


And today they announced that you can buy shares with your BAPs but be really careful if you plan to because the exchange rate is awful (currently 35 cents per share when you can buy them on the cash market for ~13). It's a good way to get stung

ruicarlov wrote on 27^th Sep, 2014 at 10:14pm:

Today I had 51 low-value ads  :-? Wow, if this keeps increasing, I might consider the filter after all.

Aren't you glad you can sort the ads from high to low value?  ;D

Hmmm, there's an idea. Maybe he should take that sorting function off. Just think of the money they'd make in filters!  :money [smiley=lolx.gif]

Well.. here I am to solve the mystery..
I've just purchased the $2.99 filter.. :P

I had to give it a try just for the experience..
How wrong can it go anyways, after all it's just 3 bucks..

So, I'll let you know how it goes.. :)

So... I logged in today and the view was really good. :)

http://i.imgur.com/Yf9GN8D.png

It seems that going like this the filter will pay for itself in 3 days.. the additional 1% ads today were worth ~$1.  :money

So.. the first upgraded day ended up at $1.9508 on my level which is the 4th.
Additional 1% ads were ~$1 but there was a lot of clicking required.
Thankfully they're not forced focus so I clicked a lot of them while working on something else.

The system gave me a lot of $0.01 ads which means that a lot of people are reinvesting immediately after reaching $1.
Also this means that adding a filter anywhere higher than $0.01 will decrease the upgrade's profitability..

Even thought I don't have the upgrade, I've been seeing a lot of $0.01 ads lately.

ruicarlov wrote on 30^th Sep, 2014 at 2:31pm:

Even thought I don't have the upgrade, I've been seeing a lot of $0.01 ads lately.

Yes that's true.. but consider getting ~30 more of them with the upgrade.. :-/
(The 1% ads are marked with the symbol you see in my screenshot so we can count them separately)
It's kinda tiring to click them all so it might end up a big loss instead of gain if they expire..

They require quite some time on your computer to click them all..

SolidSnake wrote on 30^th Sep, 2014 at 5:44pm:

Yes that's true.. but consider getting ~30 more of them with the upgrade.. :-/ (The 1% ads are marked with the symbol you see in my screenshot so we can count them separately) It's kinda tiring to click them all so it might end up a big loss instead of gain if they expire.. They require quite some time on your computer to click them all..

I don't know what is happening. Maybe the program is spreading out ads because there are a lot of ads in the queue or something. I had 25 between 2 cents and $3 ($6 something in total). So you guys are not alone.

On the positive side, it seems the ad earnings are going up. I paid $14 in advertising yesterday and my account already has  over $9 again. So the cash is flowing here

Also, GOOD NEWS! Clixsense accepted my PV referral page so we can advertise there. That should be good for referrals

It could be a money grab

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/over_120_ads_clicked/1.html

Seriously considering buying another filter in the 5 or 10 cent range

moneymarketing wrote on 1^st Oct, 2014 at 8:34am:

It could be a money grab https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/over_120_ads_clicked/1.html Seriously considering buying another filter in the 5 or 10 cent range

Well.. so it's the new solve media captcha system that caused the explosion in $0.01 ads..
The bots could not bypass the captcha causing a lot of $0.01 ads to get recycled and delivered to the rest of the human members..

It's funny that this has become a reason for people to complain as normally they would beg to receive more $0.01 ads in other PTC sites..
Humans are such weird beings...

Ok, I also noticed this site based on a user's comment on your link.
It's such guys that ruin this industry for the benefit of a few people that like to get a reward for cheating.. I mean come on..
Why act like a greedy parasite, and hog a site's revenue and ruin it while you can still simply use it and earn.. allowing it to survive..
It's such a selfish way of thinking..  :dontknow

That ad filter is really becoming more atractive. Today I recycled $0.065 worth of ads in small ads (around 60).

So I'm wondering what you guys think. I'm looking at the daily revenues at MTV and paidverts. They are around 6K per day now with 140K members. Members are making tons of money because of the transparency of the system. We see the money and the admin doesn't have much of a choice but to roll the revenues back to the members which creates this virtuous circle of earnings and reinvestments.

So what I'm wondering is if all PTCs are making this kind of revenue but because their revenues are hidden they just don't tell us about it and therefore they don't share as much with their members. Do you think PV is the norm or an anomaly?

moneymarketing wrote on 1^st Oct, 2014 at 6:11pm:

So I'm wondering what you guys think. I'm looking at the daily revenues at MTV and paidverts. They are around 6K per day now with 140K members. Members are making tons of money because of the transparency of the system. We see the money and the admin doesn't have much of a choice but to roll the revenues back to the members which creates this virtuous circle of earnings and reinvestments. So what I'm wondering is if all PTCs are making this kind of revenue but because their revenues are hidden they just don't tell us about it and therefore they don't share as much with their members. Do you think PV is the norm or an anomaly?

Well, being transparent is a definite plus as long as privacy matters are not concerned.. etc.. some members could prefer to keep their profits hidden and that's respectable, ok. However it is the members that share their profitability on this site with other people that motivate more people to get involved and that's also somewhat necessary.

Regarding the site's profitability, it's true that sharing the fact that the site is profitable does generate more trust upon its members but it's usually simply not enough. There has to be more..

In my opinion, Paidverts is innovative in the way it combines clicking, promoting, advertising and investing (in a shares-like way) in one single concept.

I've been discussing about how a PTC admin needs to maintain some balance in the satisfaction of these 3 different types of people that use the PTC industry and it seems that Paidverts has succeeded in it with this unique system! Also the admin went a step further to include in the whole matter investors that don't even need to deal with the PTC industry at all, by using MTV and run both sites with the same pot of money.

Let's hope for the best! :)

[edit]Also regarding the revenues of other PTCs, it's kinda different because other PTCs rely heavily on upgrades, rented referrals and advertising sales to be profitable. So, there are many limitations on the reasons why someone would reinvest his money there. And if we include the general history of PTC sites it's difficult to build trust in any of them.

YGP and Paidverts were smart enough to build their system based on a combined advertising with profits standard, though the second one took it much further.[/edit]

I posted the topic at PV. Let's hope we get some interesting responses (and maybe some admins from other PTCs chiming in)

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/questions/look_at_the_money_one_ptc_can_make/1.html


:beatup

moneymarketing wrote on 1^st Oct, 2014 at 6:11pm:

So I'm wondering what you guys think. I'm looking at the daily revenues at MTV and paidverts. They are around 6K per day now with 140K members. Members are making tons of money because of the transparency of the system. We see the money and the admin doesn't have much of a choice but to roll the revenues back to the members which creates this virtuous circle of earnings and reinvestments. So what I'm wondering is if all PTCs are making this kind of revenue but because their revenues are hidden they just don't tell us about it and therefore they don't share as much with their members. Do you think PV is the norm or an anomaly?

As long things are going good with the program that's right in front of you (i.e. PV) focus on that and build on it. And not worry too much about the "coulda's, shoulda's, woulda's, what if's, if it wasn't for's, etc..." with the other programs out there, etc.

Just for the record I now think that cilcking a 25 BAPs ad is worth more than a $0.01 since $0.01/$0.0005=20 BAPs..

Also the new captcha spot that shows up while the ad is loading is a bad decision in my opinion..
Not only it looks somewhat messy.. but it also draws the attention of the clicker instead of letting him view the actual advertisement thus reducing the exposure's quality.. :-/

How much does one have to cash out in order to get paid $1.00? And that includes fees, etc. Thanks!

SolidSnake wrote on 2^nd Oct, 2014 at 10:42pm:

Just for the record I now think that cilcking a 25 BAPs ad is worth more than a $0.01 since $0.01/$0.0005=20 BAPs.. Also the new captcha spot that shows up while the ad is loading is a bad decision in my opinion.. Not only it looks somewhat messy.. but it also draws the attention of the clicker instead of letting him view the actual advertisement thus reducing the exposure's quality.. :-/

Problem is that so many people were complaining about it that they had to do something

dansbanners wrote on 2^nd Oct, 2014 at 10:57pm:

How much does one have to cash out in order to get paid $1.00? And that includes fees, etc. Thanks!

I think it depends on the payment processor. I've never cashed out myself

They don't say how much the fees are.. I guess they're somewhat high.. like $0.5+a percentage just like some other sites..

All they say in their FAQ is this :


Quote:

What is the minimum cashout? The minimum cashout amount depends on where you're cashing your earnings out to: MyTrafficValue Earnings Balance: No minimum! Perfect Money: $1.00 EgoPay: $10.00 Solid Trust Pay: $10.00 PayPal: $2.00 * Payza: $2.00 * Western Union: $250.00 Bank Wire: $250.00 * Be wary about cashing out tiny amounts to PayPal and Payza. The fees can wipe out a significant portion of your cashout; you'd be far better off waiting until you have several dollars in your account before cashing out.

moneymarketing wrote on 2^nd Oct, 2014 at 11:19pm:

Problem is that so many people were complaining about it that they had to do something

What made them add the captcha to begin with?

dansbanners wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 1:44am:

What made them add the captcha to begin with?

Cheaters using bots and also the captcha displays ads for them now so it is another source of revenue

Wow.. I just noticed that today I have 117 available ads to click..
There are 5 pages of $0.0005 to $0.001 ads..
Thankfully they cost less than 4 BAPs each..  :-/

[edit]Also, I've noticed that by clicking all the ads from $0.02+ will get me $1.41 and about half of that is due to the upgrade.
And there are 20 x $0.01 available 1% ads to click on.. At least the upgrade doesn't deliver lower than $0.01 ads which is good.[/edit]

Of course the 1% ads aren't lower than $0.01. Since the minimum purchase is $1, 1% of that is $0.01. Let's hope he doesn't decide to ad a smaller ad pack for $0.50  ::)

moneymarketing wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 8:06am:

Cheaters using bots and also the captcha displays ads for them now so it is another source of revenue

I personally think it's making it more tedious. So have the members complained they want it removed or something?

dansbanners wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 2:09pm:

I personally think it's making it more tedious. So have the members complained they want it removed or something?

It's a mixed bag. There was a pretty serious problem with the bots though. And it wasn't just one guy he was offering it to other people on forums so there was a whole group of thieves forming around the exploits.

The captcha is not as bad as the old one. sometimes people would put captchas like this in there(made of Vs and Ws)


vvwwvwvwwvwwwvvwvwwwvwwwvwvvvvwwvvwv  ;D

Those were the good old days  :)

SolidSnake wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 9:50am:

Wow.. I just noticed that today I have 117 available ads to click.. There are 5 pages of $0.0005 to $0.001 ads.. Thankfully they cost less than 4 BAPs each..  :-/ [edit]Also, I've noticed that by clicking all the ads from $0.02+ will get me $1.41 and about half of that is due to the upgrade. And there are 20 x $0.01 available 1% ads to click on.. At least the upgrade doesn't deliver lower than $0.01 ads which is good.[/edit]

I'm definitely glad I upgraded my filter to 5 cents and above. I had a grand total of one ad today for $4. Assuming it took me a minute to run the whole thing that prorates to $240 an hour

I should just start billing them hourly  ;D

wow! top group earnings:

http://prntscr.com/4sn0l3

moneymarketing wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 6:16pm:

wow! top group earnings: http://prntscr.com/4sn0l3

Wow.. that looks like a dream..  [smiley=z03-lol.gif]

Lol, I can't believe how blind I am. So far I had been selecting the text, Ctrl+C, click on the field and Ctrl+V.
I still hadn't noticed all is took was one click on an icon next to the field.

(facepalm smiley needed)

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Lol, I can't believe how blind I am. So far I had been selecting the text, Ctrl+C, click on the field and Ctrl+V. I still hadn't noticed all is took was one click on an icon next to the field. (facepalm smiley needed)

It's brand new so I don't blame you for missing it (because I missed it too  ;D)

I'm not sure I agree with it though. This and the other captcha change diminishes the advertisers benefit

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Lol, I can't believe how blind I am. So far I had been selecting the text, Ctrl+C, click on the field and Ctrl+V. I still hadn't noticed all is took was one click on an icon next to the field. (facepalm smiley needed)

Too bad this is not an emoticon.. :P
http://rationallythinkingoutloud.com/RTOL_Media/picard-facepalm.jpg

As for the button.. don't worry.. I also didn't notice the first time it was there..
The second time.. I was kinda afraid to click it.. but the third time I couldn't help it.. :P

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 6:57pm:

Lol, I can't believe how blind I am. So far I had been selecting the text, Ctrl+C, click on the field and Ctrl+V. I still hadn't noticed all is took was one click on an icon next to the field. (facepalm smiley needed)

Thanks for posting it in here! I didn't know either! :)

moneymarketing wrote on 3^rd Oct, 2014 at 10:00pm:

I'm not sure I agree with it though. This and the other captcha change diminishes the advertisers benefit

What do you want it to do? Make it become more tedious? ::)

Maybe sometime you just have to learn to go with the flow when something good like this comes up.

To tell you the truth, for a while there, I wasn't even clicking thinking it was too tedious and all. But now that I learned of this easier method, I'll start clicking again.

Anyway, what captcha change? 

dansbanners wrote on 4^th Oct, 2014 at 3:11pm:

What do you want it to do? Make it become more tedious? ::) Maybe sometime you just have to learn to go with the flow when something good like this comes up. To tell you the truth, for a while there, I wasn't even clicking thinking it was too tedious and all. But now that I learned of this easier method, I'll start clicking again. Anyway, what captcha change?

They moved the captcha onto the ad page which takes away viewing space and also takes the viewers attention off the ad and on to performing the captcha

Are you still clicking other sites? I'm asking because you can make more clicking at PV than at other sites

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Oct, 2014 at 3:58pm:

They moved the captcha onto the ad page which takes away viewing space and also takes the viewers attention off the ad and on to performing the captcha Are you still clicking other sites? I'm asking because you can make more clicking at PV than at other sites

They could always just remove the captcha when it comes down to it.

I was still getting a tedious feeling clicking in PV regardless of whether or not I was clicking in other sites. Thus was still glad to learn of the less tedious route in PV.

dansbanners wrote on 4^th Oct, 2014 at 5:19pm:

They could always just remove the captcha when it comes down to it. I was still getting a tedious feeling clicking in PV regardless of whether or not I was clicking in other sites. Thus was still glad to learn of the less tedious route in PV.

At least you don't need to stay on the page or can work from a second window. I run a monitor from my laptop so I can use one screen for my clicks and another for other work.

Making ten or twenty cents in one click is always going to be faster that making one cent clicks though. If you're not sold on the site then you're not sold

moneymarketing wrote on 4^th Oct, 2014 at 6:46pm:

At least you don't need to stay on the page or can work from a second window. I run a monitor from my laptop so I can use one screen for my clicks and another for other work. Making ten or twenty cents in one click is always going to be faster that making one cent clicks though. If you're not sold on the site then you're not sold

You miss the point. Actually, I'm a little more sold on the site now that I know that there's a less tedious way to click and all. ;)

It's easier for the clicker, but the advertising value has been reduced a bit and that captcha can be kinda annoying sometimes, by simply being too hard to read, but it's not impossible and bots have to be fought back so.. it's understandable from the admin's perspective.

Now something I've researched regarding Solve Media Captchas is that it pays per correct captcha entry so that could also be used in money making and that's a way PTC owners earn some money from the freebie active clickers. That's also an interesting idea to use in online games and content submission sites, file-sharing sites, forums etc.. (Ok, don't worry I won't make you fill in captchas for me.. :P)

And until now I was wondering why I have seen the term : "Paid to fill in captchas"..

Some more details on the project are here :
How to make money using Solve Media Captchas

...and this is their advertising guide which shows how one can use their captchas to advertise.

However it seems more like tv ads where there's no actual interaction with the viewer other than "brain washing" so there's no click here to visit page link or sth.

But wait there's more to it.. :)
Quoting from this article..:


Quote:

Which leads us to Solve Media’s new brand analytics product: Solve Media Insights. Instead of typing in a predetermined brand message, users can voice their opinions. With its ad platform Type-In, the user is prompted to type a word—any word—that describes his or her impression of the brand pictured in the captcha. Not lovin’ it? Type in “lame.” The data, certified by comScore, itself becomes valuable to advertisers. In the coming months, Solve Media will roll out a “Part B” of its Insights program, which will offer comprehensive historical data to its customers, Jacoby said. Solve Media raised $4 million in venture backing in September 2010 from AOL Ventures, New Atlantic Ventures, First Round Capital, and angel investor Roger Ehrenberg.

Which means they are maybe most suitable for international large scale advertisers.

Coming back to the subject I think admin could have done it a bit better by having the captcha at the bottom of the page or even make it a floating one.. so that at least the visitor would have to scroll down and thus take a better view at the site being advertised..

At many cases if the visitor is viewing the site from a mobile device or something with a small resolution he won't be able to view the actual site without scrolling down.

Something good I've also noticed regarding Paidverts is that there comes this point where the money accumulates faster than the time it takes for the PTC credits to expire which means I get constant advertising from them for my site without having to pay out of my pocket for it.. I can just use my earnings and still be in profit with them.

Btw, there's are some interesting updates on the site's forum for today.. and it looks like we're expecting a raise in profits tomorrow.. :)

And also my "small super upgrade" week is ending tomorrow so I'll also post some interesting nice facts about it..

I'm glad they've decided to tackle the legality issues with the company. That has been my biggest(and now really my only) concern with the site. With the way governments like to go after people making money for the stupidest reasons(like being in competition with their cartels) they needed to take this next step. They are of the size that they will need to do it soon so that the parasites of the world don't try to make lunch of them

Another great time saving idea someone suggested is to record all the captcha lines into a text or word file. Since they repeat so often, after a short time you will have a list that you can just copy and paste.

It also helps to put them in alphabetical order with a letter to head them

Here is your starting list that I got just from today:

B


believe in yourself
boogie on reggae women

L

listen to the music

S

settle back easy jim

W

we bid you goodnight

Y

yummy in my tummy

Well, I think collecting all the captchas could be kinda impossible here as the 3000 characters limit will definitely block your way.. :)
But I also think it's kinda pointless.. it will most likely take more time to search - copy and paste the keyword instead of simply writing it..
The list will become rather large and very painful to read through..

So, just like I promised, my mini super upgrade has expired and here are the results :

http://i.imgur.com/9qST091.png

It seems that $3 investment gets up to 300% ROI within one week if things keep on like that.
The calculated average of all the ads I have received is : $0,035 per ad.
However I didn't click that many ads so I didn't get all that $9.31 but I definitely got more than $8 clicking higher than $0.02 valued ads.

I also clicked a bunch of $0.01 ads so I probably got close to $9 if we include them.
All in all it costs $3 and I'm not sure how many BAPs are deducted by these ads.

So, I'm now wondering how well the $19.99 upgrade goes when there are only 324 people sharing profits in that list.. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2014 at 11:38pm:

Well, I think collecting all the captchas could be kinda impossible here as the 3000 characters limit will definitely block your way.. :) But I also think it's kinda pointless.. it will most likely take more time to search - copy and paste the keyword instead of simply writing it.. The list will become rather large and very painful to read through..

I didn't mean collecting them here. I was just giving you a starter list. You can do it in a text file on your computer. It does save me time and typing. Having them alphabetized is key because then you just need to look up the first letter. When doing my clicks tonight (I had four 1% ads), three of the four were repeats

SolidSnake wrote on 5^th Oct, 2014 at 11:38pm:

I also clicked a bunch of $0.01 ads so I probably got close to $9 if we include them. All in all it costs $3 and I'm not sure how many BAPs are deducted by these ads.

Since $9.31 was delivered, this means that it consumed 18620 BAP.
According to my calculations some pages ago, in order to break-even in terms of BAP, you should have earned over $8.5. Since you did, I guess it was profitable

Does it matter how often you log in? Or the ads availability is simply based on how many BAP points you have?

I've noticed the ads "that matter" tend to show up at some specific times, so you can manage to log in once per day and get them all before they expire. But it's advisable to log in twice, since the ad expiration time is 18h, so you could lose some valuable ads in those missing 6h. It happened to me once, but now I've kinda sorted out when the ads appear.

It looks like the 1% ads arrive in the evening (EST). Whereas the site distributed ads arrive in the morning (EST)

ruicarlov wrote on 6^th Oct, 2014 at 1:34pm:

Since $9.31 was delivered, this means that it consumed 18620 BAP. According to my calculations some pages ago, in order to break-even in terms of BAP, you should have earned over $8.5. Since you did, I guess it was profitable

But including the 5% referral earnings it probably wasn't that much profitable so I guess we'll have to wait for the site to grow larger before it will be. So, I'll continue climbing up the levels from now on.

Btw, today without the upgrade I got just a $1 ad and 5-6 tiny ones.. so that was a much better value for my time unlike the previous upgraded days.. :D

http://prntscr.com/4tlm1y


:o

moneymarketing wrote on 6^th Oct, 2014 at 8:38pm:

http://prntscr.com/4tlm1y :o

Pff.. come on already.. somebody tell him to raise the filter above $20.. who has time to click such tiny ads?
It's not worth the 30 seconds focusless effort..   [smiley=lolx.gif]

SolidSnake wrote on 7^th Oct, 2014 at 12:10am:

Pff.. come on already.. somebody tell him to raise the filter above $20.. who has time to click such tiny ads? It's not worth the 30 seconds focusless effort..   [smiley=lolx.gif]

;D

Yeah, I was thinking about where he had his filter set. He is literally earning rockstar type numbers there. Isn't it amazing how far the 'click for pennies' industry has come?

To think we thought PTCbox 10 cent ads were surreal.  ;D

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Oct, 2014 at 11:27am:

To think we thought PTCbox 10 cent ads were surreal.  ;D

Looks like there are still minds that think "out of the box" around..
..and that is actually nice because that pushes some barriers that keep this industry's evolution back! :)

So, does upgrading in PV enable you to earn money faster, etc?

It might, but there's no guarantee. It all depends on the sites sales. Upgrading increases the speed of earning cash, but also the BAP depletion. I also upgraded yesterday, and got $1.20 of extra 1% ads. At this rate it's interesting, since even if the net profit (counting BAP and cash) is not groundbreaking, you get a quicker cash turnover and are able to advertise more at 0 cost.

ruicarlov wrote on 7^th Oct, 2014 at 6:04pm:

It might, but there's no guarantee. It all depends on the sites sales. Upgrading increases the speed of earning cash, but also the BAP depletion. I also upgraded yesterday, and got $1.20 of extra 1% ads. At this rate it's interesting, since even if the net profit (counting BAP and cash) is not groundbreaking, you get a quicker cash turnover and are able to advertise more at 0 cost.

Yes, I read it in their forum that this was actually the purpose of the super upgrade..
To give us the option to "liquefy" our BAPs in a quicker way.. and it's kinda risky in case the sales don't go as expected.
But normally they should go like that.. Either way I think I'll try to increase my BAPs to the next level (5) from now on.

Got a 6 cents ad to click on. Which I think is a new record for me. 8-)

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Got a 6 cents ad to click on. Which I think is a new record for me. 8-)

Not quite a $200 ad but you're getting there  :)

I've stopped buying the banners altogether. They get spent way too fast. I've decided the money is better spent in the actual ad so that I drive my BAP numbers up

dansbanners wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Got a 6 cents ad to click on. Which I think is a new record for me. 8-)

That's a good start Dan!
Normally it should be climbing upwards as we go.. :)


moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 7:34pm:

I've stopped buying the banners altogether. They get spent way too fast. I've decided the money is better spent in the actual ad so that I drive my BAP numbers up

That's also true, and I think that the way their banner rotation system works is a bit bad..
It seems that they are rotated after several seconds because the same banners (I've checked the image address) stay in their place for a few seconds even if you refresh the page multiple times. So, it is likely that the same member spends more than one views of your banner.

Btw, the offensive banners thing got a bit too far, almost led to a war there so something had to be done.
I suggested a solution that might not be perfect but it should at least stop the war..

I was almost ready to get on with it and create my own browser extension to block specific banners.. but thankfully I figured a simpler way to do this using adblock plus. Well, that might be a bit too much but I just can't help helping when disrespect happens..  :dontknow

SolidSnake wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 10:35pm:

That's a good start Dan! Normally it should be climbing upwards as we go.. :) That's also true, and I think that the way their banner rotation system works is a bit bad.. It seems that they are rotated after several seconds because the same banners (I've checked the image address) stay in their place for a few seconds even if you refresh the page multiple times. So, it is likely that the same member spends more than one views of your banner. Btw, the offensive banners thing got a bit too far, almost led to a war there so something had to be done. I suggested a solution that might not be perfect but it should at least stop the war.. I was almost ready to get on with it and create my own browser extension to block specific banners.. but thankfully I figured a simpler way to do this using adblock plus. Well, that might be a bit too much but I just can't help helping when disrespect happens..  :dontknow

Using those stun bullets again.

Mr. Peacemaker  8-)

moneymarketing wrote on 8^th Oct, 2014 at 11:37pm:

Using those stun bullets again. Mr. Peacemaker  8-)

Lol.. Let's hope that this won't get people throw stones at me.. lol.. or risk my account or sth.. Time to go stealthy again..  8-)

201 referrals!  [smiley=13-latin.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 9^th Oct, 2014 at 7:29am:

201 referrals!  [smiley=13-latin.gif]

Cool! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

moneymarketing wrote on 9^th Oct, 2014 at 7:29am:

201 referrals!  [smiley=13-latin.gif]

Good job!  :cool1
Are they active enough?

Btw, it seems they fixed the member's traffic value ratings.. for me so far it showed that I had a traffic value of $6~7 even though my purchases are ~$48.. now it shows the proper value. Some people tend to use that rating for "you are not important enough to speak" purposes so that's more fair to a lot more members now.. :)

Another interesting fact about Paidverts is what one can earn just by clicking.

New members receive 16 BAP ads daily for the first week or until they click 100 of those.

This means that they can accumulate 7 x 16 x 25 BAPs = 2800 BAPs (weekly) that will deliver to them ads worth 2800 x $0.0005 = $1.4
(or $1.33 if we subtract the upline earnings).

There aren't many (if any) PTCs online that can offer that profit to their free clickers.. :)
After the 100 BAP ads clicked a user will only receive 8 of those ads which means :

7 x 8 x 25 BAPs = 1400 BAPs (weekly) that equal ads worth 1400 x $0.0005 = $0.7
(or $0,665 if we subtract the upline earnings).

These BAPs are more than enough to not only cover potential loses by small ads (<$0.02) but also with some reinvesting, the profits rate can be constantly increased.

After realizing this I decided to click all BAP whenever I can in order to climb the levels even quicker.

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2014 at 3:28pm:

After realizing this I decided to click all BAP whenever I can in order to climb the levels even quicker.

You mean you haven't until now? That sounded fairly obivous to me. BAP is king, afterall.  :)

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2014 at 12:50pm:

Good job!  :cool1 Are they active enough? Btw, it seems they fixed the member's traffic value ratings.. for me so far it showed that I had a traffic value of $6~7 even though my purchases are ~$48.. now it shows the proper value. Some people tend to use that rating for "you are not important enough to speak" purposes so that's more fair to a lot more members now.. :)

Yes, the traffic value was a reflection of the MTV site mainly but since PV plays such a huge part in our economic value it was wise they incorporated the BAPs into it.

My referrals seems to be producing a bit of cash flow. I haven't looked into it too closely and I haven't separated out your contribution, but it seems they are worth 50 cents to $1 per day at a minimum. Every time I sign in my cash total is higher so I guess that is the best part.

It seems that 200 is about the place where your referrals start to put that perpetual cash growth in motion but I think to start building some good income 1000 min. should be your target.


The great thing about MTV/PV is you only need one fanatic like us and you can make a lot of money. I had one guy who was quite active in one of the investment plans before PV was built and I was making a couple dollars per day from him alone. That helped me buy a lot of shares in the early days when they were really cheap

SolidSnake wrote on 10^th Oct, 2014 at 3:28pm:

Another interesting fact about Paidverts is what one can earn just by clicking. New members receive 16 BAP ads daily for the first week or until they click 100 of those. This means that they can accumulate 7 x 16 x 25 BAPs = 2800 BAPs (weekly) that will deliver to them ads worth 2800 x $0.0005 = $1.4 (or $1.33 if we subtract the upline earnings). There aren't many (if any) PTCs online that can offer that profit to their free clickers.. :) After the 100 BAP ads clicked a user will only receive 8 of those ads which means : 7 x 8 x 25 BAPs = 1400 BAPs (weekly) that equal ads worth 1400 x $0.0005 = $0.7 (or $0,665 if we subtract the upline earnings). These BAPs are more than enough to not only cover potential loses by small ads (<$0.02) but also with some reinvesting, the profits rate can be constantly increased. After realizing this I decided to click all BAP whenever I can in order to climb the levels even quicker.

This site has a lot of those AHA! moments built into it. I was sitting on over 200K BAPs due to referral bonuses before I realized that I could turn those into click cash. I can only guess how much money just evaporated before I started clicking. It must have been into the double digits

ruicarlov wrote on 10^th Oct, 2014 at 5:50pm:

You mean you haven't until now? That sounded fairly obivous to me. BAP is king, afterall.  :)

Well, not all of us have super powers and sixth senses... :P

Got a 7 cents ad to click on. A new record for me! 8-)

dansbanners wrote on 11^th Oct, 2014 at 12:52am:

Got a 7 cents ad to click on. A new record for me! 8-)

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I'm up to 22 captchas in that text file I'm building and all the captchas in my clicks (5) tonight were covered by them

and found this stat:

Referral Commissions: $68.40444 ($42.80 purchases; $25.60444 ads)


So that works out to 29.7 cents per referral. I remember that in the past, 10 cents per referral was considered a good average

At YGP, after one year I have 211 referrals and they are averaging 68.8 cents so the two of them are quite similar but my referrals at PV are  lot newer (most within the past month)

WOW! Nice banner:

http://i.imgur.com/mhxwMGN.gif

I want it(but I won't take it because I don't have permission)

Edit: OK, that was cool. As soon as I committed to not taking this banner I got a new referral notice. Instant (for lack of a better term)karma

moneymarketing wrote on 11^th Oct, 2014 at 6:52am:

WOW! Nice banner: http://i.imgur.com/mhxwMGN.gif I want it(but I won't take it because I don't have permission) Edit: OK, that was cool. As soon as I committed to not taking this banner I got a new referral notice. Instant (for lack of a better term)karma

Well, it's not that much of a good banner because it lacks some instructions to actually receive that so I'm not using it that much..
The problem is that it may be misleading.. drive people to sign up but realize that there are no such ads available..
So, I've been thinking about coming up with a simply but complete guide on how things go with Paidverts..

Only I don't have time to.. :(
Oh, and feel free to use it as well. :P

SolidSnake wrote on 12^th Oct, 2014 at 2:07am:

Well, it's not that much of a good banner because it lacks some instructions to actually receive that so I'm not using it that much.. The problem is that it may be misleading.. drive people to sign up but realize that there are no such ads available.. So, I've been thinking about coming up with a simply but complete guide on how things go with Paidverts.. Only I don't have time to.. :( Oh, and feel free to use it as well. :P

Oh! It's yours?  :o

Amazing coincidence. That is great work. Actually, there could be ads like that. If you buy $25 in ads you should get 25 cent ads for ten days. So it is possible


Edit: BTW, when it comes to banners, you want to keep them simple. It is the worm on the fishing line that you use to draw people in. As long as it tells the truth that is all that matters. I assure you, if they are hungry enough, the people that respond to your banner will keep searching until they find out if you have told the truth with your banner. So it is a great way to filter out those that are serious from those that are pretenders

I'm going to test market that banner on bestE to see what kind of results it gets. May try it at MFS too.

Paidverts has a weekly news blog up and running. It is great for what we have missed. I didn't even know about some of the changes (like share fees going from 3% to .25%)

http://paidvertsweeklynews.blogspot.ca/2014/10/paidverts-weekly-news-week-3.html

moneymarketing wrote on 12^th Oct, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Oh! It's yours?  :o Amazing coincidence. That is great work. Actually, there could be ads like that. If you buy $25 in ads you should get 25 cent ads for ten days. So it is possible

Didn't know it was SS' either. Thought it was a good one too. 8-)

moneymarketing wrote on 12^th Oct, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Oh! It's yours?  :o Amazing coincidence. That is great work. Actually, there could be ads like that. If you buy $25 in ads you should get 25 cent ads for ten days. So it is possible Edit: BTW, when it comes to banners, you want to keep them simple. It is the worm on the fishing line that you use to draw people in. As long as it tells the truth that is all that matters. I assure you, if they are hungry enough, the people that respond to your banner will keep searching until they find out if you have told the truth with your banner. So it is a great way to filter out those that are serious from those that are pretenders

Lol.. I really thought you knew it was mine and just asked for permission..  ;D
Ok, maybe I should start watermarking my banners..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

As for why I don't like it, it's simply because it may cause frustration on people that join and realize there aren't such ads available immediately after they join.. Unfortunately with so many PTCs around people spend little time on studying each one separately..  That's why I think it would help a lot with Paidverts to write a simple guide or sth.

How to get the BAP ads higher up on the Paid Ads page (i.e. paid_ads.html) without having to scroll down to click them?

Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 3:57am:

How to get the BAP ads higher up on the Paid Ads page (i.e. paid_ads.html) without having to scroll down to click them? Thanks!

I don't think you can change it. Try pressing the page down button. That should take you to them quickly

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 7:38am:

I don't think you can change it. Try pressing the page down button. That should take you to them quickly

Actually there is a trick that might help.. :)

Use this link and the page will load and navigate directly to the footer (bottom) of the page and since it's rather small you will get to see the BAP ads on the top of your screen.

There is an extension for both chrome and firefox called "display #anchors" that allows us to view all the anchors in a web page so one can use that in any site he wants provided that these anchors exist there and have been set up by the site designer.

Sth interesting I read in the MTV forum today :


Quote:

* Reminder * If you find a security exploit within MTV/PV, and you tell us about it (without first trying to cashout/spend your illgotten gains - we'll give you a $100 cash finders fee!

:)

And another update.. we now have an option to get cheaper packs at the price of $0.10 per 40 hits + 310 BAPs!
That's good news actually! I can now get more visitors for the same price, only I don't know how many will actually click those low valued ads. Either way it's an additional option for advertisers.

Don't underestimate the masochistic nature of PTC clickers.

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 11:19am:

Actually there is a trick that might help.. :) Use this link and the page will load and navigate directly to the footer (bottom) of the page and since it's rather small you will get to see the BAP ads on the top of your screen. There is an extension for both chrome and firefox called "display #anchors" that allows us to view all the anchors in a web page so one can use that in any site he wants provided that these anchors exist there and have been set up by the site designer.

always have to play the smarty pants huh?  >:(


;D

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 12:03pm:

Sth interesting I read in the MTV forum today : :)

They've had that for a while. Now you can finally put that programming training to use and earn some money with it

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 6:03pm:

And another update.. we now have an option to get cheaper packs at the price of $0.10 per 40 hits + 310 BAPs! That's good news actually! I can now get more visitors for the same price, only I don't know how many will actually click those low valued ads. Either way it's an additional option for advertisers.

Those should be excellent for the paid to promote pages

I just tried a $9 cheap traffic pack. I'll let you know how long it takes

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 6:38pm:

always have to play the smarty pants huh?  >:( ;D

Well.. if you can find a bigger nerd around here, let me know..   :P


moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 7:39pm:

I just tried a $9 cheap traffic pack. I'll let you know how long it takes

That's awesome! Waiting eagerly for your results.
(Otherwise I would have to put Rui's skills in action to "make" you do it.. or did I already..  ::) )

Btw, I've just noticed this awesome banner..:

http://i.imgur.com/hfp7Uly.gif

It definitely looks like Incognito007's job..
I've always thought about giving this guy's banners a try..

I know Jacknz trusts him and has been using his banners successfully for a long time now.
Do you think I should contact him and maybe negotiate a team deal?

His current prices go like this :

http://i.imgur.com/JTaMem9.png

It might be really worth a shot. :)

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 11:29pm:

Well.. if you can find a bigger nerd around here, let me know..   :P That's awesome! Waiting eagerly for your results. (Otherwise I would have to put Rui's skills in action to "make" you do it.. or did I already..  ::) )

I don't know if you can see this link

https://www.paidverts.com/member/my_ad_campaign_stats_CT-364177.html

After 12 hours I have a grand total of 9 clicks  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Maybe the PV clickers aren't so masochistic after all  :)

SolidSnake wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 11:52pm:

Btw, I've just noticed this awesome banner..: http://i.imgur.com/hfp7Uly.gif It definitely looks like Incognito007's job.. I've always thought about giving this guy's banners a try.. I know Jacknz trusts him and has been using his banners successfully for a long time now. Do you think I should contact him and maybe negotiate a team deal? His current prices go like this : http://i.imgur.com/JTaMem9.png It might be really worth a shot. :)

That's definitely his work. I am not totally convinced you need him. I have had some pretty good results with this banner

https://www.paidverts.com/banners/pv/468x60_4.gif

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 7:39pm:

I just tried a $9 cheap traffic pack. I'll let you know how long it takes

I'm pretty sure we do not get BAPs for the cheap traffic. I don't have it in my BAP log and someone was saying that in the comment section. I think it was mistyped and will be fixed soon so you may want to hold off on buying that

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 8:43am:

I'm pretty sure we do not get BAPs for the cheap traffic. I don't have it in my BAP log and someone was saying that in the comment section. I think it was mistyped and will be fixed soon so you may want to hold off on buying that

Yes, they removed that now and posted a warning.. So, the clicks still get delivered really slowly?

ruicarlov wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Tell me about it. I think I'm beginning to understand how slavery has survived through the history of mankind...plenty of willing participants

Wait, what?! I never wrote this post. How the hell did that text show up under my username.
Snake, have you been using disguises again?

ruicarlov wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Wait, what?! I never wrote this post. How the hell did that text show up under my username. Snake, have you been using disguises again?

Well.. you have no proof of anything whatsoever... All we see is your username there... ::)

moneymarketing wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 7:39pm:

I just tried a $9 cheap traffic pack. I'll let you know how long it takes

Does that mean you'll get 360 hits to it (i.e. 40 x 9)? And are you promoting donkeymail in it?

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 6:50am:

I don't know if you can see this link https://www.paidverts.com/member/my_ad_campaign_stats_CT-364177.html After 12 hours I have a grand total of 9 clicks  [smiley=lolx.gif] Maybe the PV clickers aren't so masochistic after all  :)

To be fair, regular click delivery isn't exactly the fastest on the business. I've got 49 visits in 1 day. Makes sense low paying ads will be slower. On the other hand, so far the ads I've seen have all been worth $0.0025. That's actually 5 times more the regular $0.0005 and people do click $0.0005 and $0.001 ads (you can confirm that in your ad's interactions history)

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Does that mean you'll get 360 hits to it (i.e. 40 x 9)? And are you promoting donkeymail in it?

The 9$ pack actually delivers 4000 hits (40 x 90 + bonus). Moneymarketing bought it at the right time, since small ads no longer deliver BAPs.

ruicarlov wrote on 14^th Oct, 2014 at 6:22pm:

Don't underestimate the masochistic nature of PTC clickers.

Whoops! I hit the wrong button. I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote'

I guess that's why there were no quotes around your statement Rui. I've done that before but I didn't catch it this time

And here is my answer to your post

Tell me about it. I think I'm beginning to understand how slavery has survived through the history of mankind...plenty of willing participants

ruicarlov wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Wait, what?! I never wrote this post. How the hell did that text show up under my username. Snake, have you been using disguises again?

[smiley=sorry.gif]

I told SS that moderating was a power I'm not sure he should entrust to me. I've already sent inflammatory emails to ISIS that way (no, just kidding)

SolidSnake wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 10:43am:

Yes, they removed that now and posted a warning.. So, the clicks still get delivered really slowly?

It's up to 10  ::)

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Does that mean you'll get 360 hits to it (i.e. 40 x 9)? And are you promoting donkeymail in it?

You get 4000 hits and I'm promoting the DM points page

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 6:47pm:

[smiley=sorry.gif] I told SS that moderating was a power I'm not sure he should entrust to me. I've already sent inflammatory emails to ISIS that way (no, just kidding)

Lolz.. ok now it's all clear!
I think I've done something like that in the past, in GetPaidReview only in a much more intense situation, where I was going to reply to a really angry person and instead of "reply" I clicked "edit" and I ruined his comment by actually replacing it with my post.. I remember wanting to hit my head on a wall or digging a hole and jumping into it and other creative ideas like that..  [smiley=lolx.gif]

Do they have vacation days in PV? This way your BAP points won't get lowered during the time you're unable to click? I'm going away this weekend. Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 11:58pm:

Do they have vacation days in PV? This way your BAP points won't get lowered during the time you're unable to click? I'm going away this weekend. Thanks!

Yes, they do, only it's not worth it if your losses aren't gonna cross $2 in paid ads.. The good thing about it is that it has no duration limit..

All it does is prevent your account from receiving ads that will reduce your BAPs until you unfreeze your account.
I would prefer to simply find an internet source for 5 minutes a day and do the high valued clicks only if possible.

Details here : https://www.paidverts.com/member/vacation_mode.html

And... yeah.. I've hopped up to the 5th level with a $9.98 campaign that got me up to 99000 BAPs..  :cool1

I'll now try to maintain it above 96000 to stay in this level and maybe pull some profits out of the system to start getting some ROI..

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 12:05am:

Yes, they do, only it's not worth it if your losses aren't gonna cross $2 in paid ads.. The good thing about it is that it has no duration limit.. All it does is prevent your account from receiving ads that will reduce your BAPs until you unfreeze your account. I would prefer to simply find an internet source for 5 minutes a day and do the high valued clicks only if possible. Details here : https://www.paidverts.com/member/vacation_mode.html

In a way, I think it's unfair that they're charging you for the vacation mode. It seems almost as if they're punishing you for it.

dansbanners wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 11:58pm:

Do they have vacation days in PV? This way your BAP points won't get lowered during the time you're unable to click? I'm going away this weekend. Thanks!

They don't usually issue high value ads on the weekend though there is the risk of receiving the high value random ads on Sunday

dansbanners wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 4:03am:

In a way, I think it's unfair that they're charging you for the vacation mode. It seems almost as if they're punishing you for it.

Unfortunately that is considered "normal" among PTCs.. etc if someone has rented referrals he is charged for them even if he doesn't make it to click some days to earn from them as well.. one can also log in through a mobile device just in case.. (I use a tablet sometimes). At any case if one's level is low it's not really worth it in my opinion..

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 7:46am:

They don't usually issue high value ads on the weekend though there is the risk of receiving the high value random ads on Sunday

That's an iffy.

For example today I received 42 x $0.0005 ads.. if I click nothing I will lose 42 BAPs because of them..
That's what I consider a "no big deal" provided that we can get 50 BAPs just by clicking 2 x 25 BAP ads in less than a minute.

Of course a $0.01 ad would mean 20 BAPs and a $0.02 ad 40 BAPs accordingly..
but still it doesn't justify the $2 required for the vacation mode unless one intends to be away a week or more maybe..
Remember that $2 spent on ad packs would instantly add 6200 BAPs to your account..  :dontknow

Ok, that was a cool start on level 5!  :cool1

http://i.imgur.com/cX2ctrw.png

So at the end of the day I ended up purchasing a $3 ad pack with my today's earnings and I'm now at 103624 BAPs..
That's ~4000BAPs+ just by reinvesting.

I think at this point the growth gets a nice flaw, so I think a good goal for now is to keep my level safe somewhere above 100000 BAPs by reinvesting only the necessary amount of ad packs and then start pulling out what remains in my balance once it accumulates to a fair amount.

Clicking a $3 ad would reduce my BAPs by 6000 but I can simply get those points back by reinvesting only $2 (6200BAPs).
So, this way $1 will be left untouched in my balance.

I guess the path I'm talking about is reinvesting 2/3 of what is in my balance to maintain the 5th level while pulling out a profit, right? That's not bad after all.

I'll be reinvesting it all (my fatal flaw) until I get to level 9 which will bring in about $10+ per day (I made $8 today but that was an outside day a little bit I think). I'm at  869518 and need another 650 K or so. It would only cost me $200 or so but I want to stick to the pledge of not putting outside money into online ventures. I'll probably have that money in less than a week so it won't be a problem

I don't know what I'll do after that

With days like today I think people will really start getting excited and the cash will start flowing. So the fireworks are probably just starting  :D

SolidSnake wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 10:16pm:

Ok, that was a cool start on level 5!  :cool1 http://i.imgur.com/cX2ctrw.png So at the end of the day I ended up purchasing a $3 ad pack with my today's earnings and I'm now at 103624 BAPs.. That's ~4000BAPs+ just by reinvesting. I think at this point the growth gets a nice flaw, so I think a good goal for now is to keep my level safe somewhere above 100000 BAPs by reinvesting only the necessary amount of ad packs and then start pulling out what remains in my balance once it accumulates to a fair amount. Clicking a $3 ad would reduce my BAPs by 6000 but I can simply get those points back by reinvesting only $2 (6200BAPs). So, this way $1 will be left untouched in my balance. I guess the path I'm talking about is reinvesting 2/3 of what is in my balance to maintain the 5th level while pulling out a profit, right? That's not bad after all.

:cool1

Got an 18 cents ad to click on. A new record for me! 8-)

moneymarketing wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 11:26pm:

I'll be reinvesting it all (my fatal flaw) until I get to level 9 which will bring in about $10+ per day (I made $8 today but that was an outside day a little bit I think). I'm at  869518 and need another 650 K or so. It would only cost me $200 or so but I want to stick to the pledge of not putting outside money into online ventures. I'll probably have that money in less than a week so it won't be a problem I don't know what I'll do after that With days like today I think people will really start getting excited and the cash will start flowing. So the fireworks are probably just starting  :D

Well, I wouldn't like this to end like YGP where things slowed down right after I invested some cash.. so I'd like to get some money out first here and then I'll see how it goes..

With all we've seen happening in this industry it's not a bad idea to not stray too far away from the safe side.. :)
Once things settle down a bit I can always leave some more of my profits for reinvesting..
etc. I could switch from reinvesting 2/3 to 3/4.. that's also fair enough.


dansbanners wrote on 16^th Oct, 2014 at 11:41pm:

Got an 18 cents ad to click on. A new record for me! 8-)

Glad you get to like the program, Dan! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
And remember they called PTCBox crazy to offer 10 cents/click back in the days.. :P

Yesterday I had over 90 low valued ads (from $0.0005 to $0.002), totaling $0.08. If that repeats often I'll seriously consider the filter.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Oct, 2014 at 12:25pm:

Yesterday I had over 90 low valued ads (from $0.0005 to $0.002), totaling $0.08. If that repeats often I'll seriously consider the filter.

I also recycled $0.072 worth of low valued ads yesterday.. But still I don't think it makes the filter worth it.
$0.08 is translated to 160 BAPs but you can still get 200 BAPs daily from those 8 x 25 BAP ads to counterbalance it.

As long as the daily loss falls below those 200 BAPs I think it's fine since there is no reduction in our totals.
If it grows a lot larger than that, only then I will feel the filter will be necessary..

After all, it's not like the filter is going to grant us more high valued ads.. it's just that we won't receive the lower ones.
The total benefit will be like a 200 BAP bonus daily which equals 6000 BAPs a month.
Now with $10 spent on ads you will instantly get 31000 BAPs.. so it is a much faster deal IMO.. or I am not seeing sth..  :-?

moneymarketing wrote on 15^th Oct, 2014 at 6:50pm:

It's up to 10  ::)

This is getting better. It's up to 2411. and I've already earned back more than the $9 I spent on it

BTW, if you guys are looking for filler ads, this is a site I'm plugging in as my give back site. They even have 125 and 728 banners


http://freerice.com/

Ah yes, the rice site. I remember using it some time ago, but I kinda forgot about it.

ruicarlov wrote on 17^th Oct, 2014 at 11:34pm:

Ah yes, the rice site. I remember using it some time ago, but I kinda forgot about it.

It is such an incredible concept. Of course I shouldn't promote it since it is technically the competition for my app now  ;D

1,000,000+ BAPS! [smiley=12-party.gif]

And because my earnings are continually reinvested, the value of my 1% ads are now $1.16. So that's an extra dollar boost to my earnings every day. That bonus sure does help to compound the earnings

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Oct, 2014 at 6:32pm:

This is getting better. It's up to 2411. and I've already earned back more than the $9 I spent on it BTW, if you guys are looking for filler ads, this is a site I'm plugging in as my give back site. They even have 125 and 728 banners http://freerice.com/

3609. So that is a pretty decent number. About 1200 clicks per day. They can also be good for a PTP because all the clicks are unique

moneymarketing wrote on 17^th Oct, 2014 at 6:32pm:

This is getting better. It's up to 2411. and I've already earned back more than the $9 I spent on it

You're talking about the $9 worth of the cheap traffic right?

dansbanners wrote on 20^th Oct, 2014 at 5:44am:

You're talking about the $9 worth of the cheap traffic right?

yes

Nice to see we're slowly conquering Paidverts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Btw, I've just created a new 125x125 banner..
I got the idea from the member's page within the site..  :idea

http://i.imgur.com/uQ6qxqf.gif

What do you think? :)

SolidSnake wrote on 20^th Oct, 2014 at 1:28pm:

Nice to see we're slowly conquering Paidverts!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Btw, I've just created a new 125x125 banner.. I got the idea from the member's page within the site..  :idea http://i.imgur.com/uQ6qxqf.gif What do you think? :)

That's pretty good. I'm wondering if it needs a border?

moneymarketing wrote on 18^th Oct, 2014 at 2:12pm:

3609. So that is a pretty decent number. About 1200 clicks per day. They can also be good for a PTP because all the clicks are unique

this is done

moneymarketing wrote on 20^th Oct, 2014 at 6:30pm:

That's pretty good. I'm wondering if it needs a border?

I'm not sure.. I felt an abstract flaw of freedom rising up from the insides of the banner this way... omg.. what did I just say?  :o

Am I correct in thinking that it might be more cost effective in buying multiple ad packs at once this way the baps points lasts longer as you also click along the way and all? Thanks!

I see that my MTV Earnings Balance is $0.048. But I'm not sure how I got it? Is there a way I could check? Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 20^th Oct, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Am I correct in thinking that it might be more cost effective in buying multiple ad packs at once this way the baps points lasts longer as you also click along the way and all? Thanks!

I don't think it would be cost effective, especially if you are buying from outside the site (like paypal) because you have transaction fees. So buy buying in bulk, you lose less in upfront costs

From a convenience point of view, it is better to buy the biggest ad pack going, that way, when you get your 1% ads you get bigger clicks. If you buy a $10 ad verses 10 $1 ads, you get 1 ten cent ad to click for 10 days instead of ten one cent ads each day. So you will be saving time from that perspective

Your BAPs also won't last longer per se, they will just be distributed in a different way. You are still going to get the same value of clicks for the BAPs bought. You are also getting BAP taxed every day that you have BAPs in circulation so, if you aren't constantly buying more ads or clicking on your daily BAP activation ads, you will lose more if you have your BAPs over the longer term

dansbanners wrote on 21^st Oct, 2014 at 1:10am:

I see that my MTV Earnings Balance is $0.048. But I'm not sure how I got it? Is there a way I could check? Thanks!

Go here where you are logged in

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/member/account.html#history

If you have referrals, they probably bought into one of the MTV investments or bought shares and you got a commission from that

dansbanners wrote on 20^th Oct, 2014 at 9:26pm:

Am I correct in thinking that it might be more cost effective in buying multiple ad packs at once this way the baps points lasts longer as you also click along the way and all? Thanks!

When purchasing ads with PayPal, just like MM says it does matter.. the fees are 7.5% on the total amount +$0.30 per transaction.
So, neither large transactions are good, nor many transactions.. A good example for that is that to get 9 standard ad packs you pay $9.98. So it's almost 10% lost in fees. Pushing it up to 92 standard packs the cost would be $99.2 which means it's ~8% or ~$8 lost in fees.

On the other hand when using our PV balance there are no fees at all so then the only thing that matters is the level.
As far as I know everyone on the same level receives almost the same value of paid ads (provided there are enough ads for all of them)

I think even a small reinvestment is important if it grants one a level up to a higher group, because the next day he will receive that group's amount of ads which can be relatively higher. On the other hand even a large investment is not so important if it doesn't get the member in the next level as he probably won't see any difference in the daily ads he will receive.

From an advertiser's point of view larger packs are most welcome because this way he will get more unique visitors. Setting up a lot of smaller ads means that the same members will get a chance to click them all which means less unique clicks in the end. Also, a lot of ad campaigns tend to pile up and makes it a bit harder to keep track.


moneymarketing wrote on 21^st Oct, 2014 at 8:39am:

Go here where you are logged in https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/member/account.html#history If you have referrals, they probably bought into one of the MTV investments or bought shares and you got a commission from that

Well, the referral list in MTV is the same with paidverts.. they are merged sites and if one creates an account for one of the two, his account stands for both of them (the same goes for the referrals). For me, the balance amount is the same to my PV balance.. Isn't that the same for you as well?

Have any of you made any MTV investments? Thanks!

dansbanners wrote on 21^st Oct, 2014 at 4:28pm:

Have any of you made any MTV investments? Thanks!

I have a few dollars in the experimental fund and have invested in the others in the past. I also have my shares, but my 'investing' now is buying ads in order to get my BAP high enough to get into higher group levels