What's going on with CashClixs? It says "Domain Suspended"

ruicarlov wrote on 24^th Mar, 2013 at 12:53pm:

What's going on with CashClixs? It says "Domain Suspended"

Yep, that's what I'd like to know as well  :question

wurldlink wrote on 24^th Mar, 2013 at 2:16pm:

Yep, that's what I'd like to know as well  :question

Just noticed it.
I'll try to contact StillSleeping and let you know.  :(

[edit]Emailed him and waiting for his reply.
Please everyone, don't panic, as it might be a small hosting related issue.[/edit]

I sent him PM this morning and no answer till now.

yesterday, I sent him an email to his Yahoo-account, which he used to pay through Paypal. No reply so far.

Perhaps someone in the US can give him a call: info is available here: http://whois.domaintools.com/cashclixs.com

I've just read the T.o.S. of cashclixs' hosting... and the interesting parts are these :


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17.9. In case of exceeding the current limit or amount of data traffic TransIP shall allow User to upgrade User package to a larger package. Where User accepts this offer the cost of excessive use shall be dropped. 17.10. If User, In case of exceeding the current limit or amount of data traffic, accepts the offer to upgrade his package, then the rate for the new package shall be charged from the month that the excess occurred. Article 13 Shutdown of Services 13.1. TransIP is entitled immediately to interrupt and suspend the provision of Services and/or deny User access to the Colocation Space and/or TransIP Data Centre if: i) User has not paid the invoice within the period specified in article 12.1 or 12.2 and has not paid the amount and the interest as specified in article 12.8, within seven (7) days after notification of this shortcoming. ii) the power consumption of the User exceeds the limit for electricity usage as specified in the Agreement and User fails permanently to reduce the electricity usage to the limit as defined in the Agreement, within three (3) days of being informed by TransIP of this. iii) If User runs software and/or scripts on his or her webhosting and/or VPS leading to the compromise of the TransIP network. iv) User executes a credit card or Paypal chargeback for unjust reasons. 13.2. The interruption and/or suspension of the Services, or denial of access leave TransIP's right to terminate the Agreement or the adoption of any other remedy that it has at its disposal, unaffected. 13.3. After interruption and/or suspension of the Services or the denial of access under article 13, TransIP has the right to charge reactivation costs to the amount of EUR 50,-- (fifty Euro), with regard to the administrative costs of TransIP in the context of interruption and/or suspension or the denial of access and possible resumption of the provision of the Services.

Of course it's easy to trigger a suspension intentionally but from my point of view, I see no reason why cashclixs was suspended.
Well that "credit card or Paypal chargeback" sounds like a suspension button but CashClixs was still very small.
Beside the excessive traffic rule, that can be dealt with, there's nothing against PTCs, multilevel, even pyramid/ponzi schemes.

Does anyone have any idea if TransIP is reliable enough when it comes to PTCs? Anyone used them before?

May be this could be another possibility.


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iii) If User runs software and/or scripts on his or her webhosting and/or VPS leading to the compromise of the TransIP network.

I knew one person who uploaded the PTC script on GPTEngine was suspended and the GPTEngine admin resorted for Police action. (That PTC admin just bought script from another vendor and uploaded it. But, it is said to have contain some malicious script that could affect other sites hosted on the server.)

Well. Whatever, the silence is scary.

Btw, I've just checked and CashClixs PayPal account is not limited.
However if members start opening disputes this is very likely to happen.. and there will be no turning back at that point.
So there's still time to save the day, I just hope he gives us a simple update no matter how bad the situation is..
We could help.. :(

I think the member count was very less. So, the number of people who made an investment should also be very less. Hence, the possibility of filing disputes is little.

But, definitely this would kill the referral activity, if the site comes back. (We strive for many weeks or months to get them in, but it would be frustrating to see all of them go.) Frankly, I am skeptic about promoting any PTC anymore. But, without referrals, PTC earning is nothing. What should we do?

venkat wrote on 31^st Mar, 2013 at 7:32am:

I think the member count was very less. So, the number of people who made an investment should also be very less. Hence, the possibility of filing disputes is little. But, definitely this would kill the referral activity, if the site comes back. (We strive for many weeks or months to get them in, but it would be frustrating to see all of them go.) Frankly, I am skeptic about promoting any PTC anymore. But, without referrals, PTC earning is nothing. What should we do?

It is really sad, to see this industry failing all the time venkat.. I agree with you here.
After so many years, we now know that there are a lot of honest people online wiling to click ads daily,
and also many experienced ones that are wiling to invest and promote a program successfully.

All these programs need is good planning and stability.. but there are always so many important factors
to consider that usually one unexpected issue is enough to make them fail.. But also the willingness of
the admin plays a big part on how these issues will be dealt with..

So, what should we do..

I think I'll open a very interesting discussion based on this question later this evening as I've got to go right now.

Discussion continued in this new thread.

Regarding this issue specifically, I'm struggling to make a decision regarding opening disputes.

I know most of the money I spent there is lost, membership included. However, I still deposited about $25 recently in multiple transactions, which are still under the 45-day period.
Opening disputes is a sure way to complicate things further. But as things stand, I don't think the site will get back up either way, plus the absolute lack of any response by the admin does not sit too well with me.
Do you think I should take this chance and do it?

ruicarlov wrote on 3^rd Apr, 2013 at 2:17pm:

Regarding this issue specifically, I'm struggling to make a decision regarding opening disputes. I know most of the money I spent there is lost, membership included. However, I still deposited about $25 recently in multiple transactions, which are still under the 45-day period. Opening disputes is a sure way to complicate things further. But as things stand, I don't think the site will get back up either way, plus the absolute lack of any response by the admin does not sit too well with me. Do you think I should take this chance and do it?

Well, I'm really sorry to say this for StillSleeping, but if you did spend that amount on the site recently, I think you should do it.
If he had given us a simple response I would suggest otherwise.. but he's experienced enough so he should expect disputes
when he stays silent after the site's disappearance. If he was to get it back up and running he would have at least make a
small announcement to the people that would support him. So, go ahead, after all it's not you that didn't keep the deal.

I can only dispute a very small amount (less than $5) now and I don't even feel like doing so..

Now, I'm wondering about the member StillSleeping? He used to also hang out in other forums. Hope he's okay?

Can't tell for sure.. I've emailed him at both cashclixs email and the one he's registered here without any reply..

He hasn't logged in for almost a month. Hope he'd still contribute to our Refban downline.

I escalated my disputes to claims on Paypal, and yesterday I got refunded $26. Never heard a word from his during this process.

ruicarlov wrote on 30^th Apr, 2013 at 1:22pm:

I escalated my disputes to claims on Paypal, and yesterday I got refunded $26. Never heard a word from his during this process.

Good thing it worked out well  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. I'm sure it's not the summary you had invested to work on that site but anyways..
It's still better than nothing right? I'm still trying to contact StillSleeping every now and then.. not to ask for explanations,
but to simply have him back with us. We all fail sometimes, that's no big deal for me, but giving up on us by disappearing is.
I wish he got back..